Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[gioff2323]

NIL, ironically, is not the biggest challenge at the moment.

Having said that, I’ve sat in the coaches area of a P4 school after a reg season game and a lot of time is spent with parents who want to know what they can get in terms of $$$.

I can see why HCs are moving to coordinator roles.

 

[KryHavok]

Having said that, I’ve sat in the coaches area of a P4 school after a reg season game and a lot of time is spent with parents who want to know what they can get in terms of $$$.

I can see why HCs are moving to coordinator roles.

Holy smokes, I can only imagine how some of those conversations go..."Coach, my boy scored 2 TDs and ran for 100 yards today, I think that's worth $100K. Get it or he portals out next week...".

 

[Fairfield_1st]

I wonder how much Al Bundy would have gotten in NIL? He scored 4 touchdowns for Polk High in the City Championship. His life would have been completely different.

 

[champs99and04]

What I am saying is not that different than what you are saying. We are less than two years away from a top transfer telling a program that he will come if the program replaces the coach.

Imagine what happens if an agent calls a .500 school and says that if the school hires his coach, he will deliver 10 transfers. How quickly is the incumbent fired?

I think that stuff already happens, though. No program fires its coach these days without getting a thorough appraisal of who's likely to stay or leave first. Texas A&M, for instance, wanted to get rid of Jimbo but keep as many of his players as possible - so it decided to hire the guy who recruited a lot of those players in Mike Elko.

So to your point, yes, the demands of players and agents are likely to get more explicit and public as their perceived power grows. But the coaches dealing with those ultimatums will continue to be the ones who were on shaky footing to begin with.

 

[Hogoff]

I wonder how much Al Bundy would have gotten in NIL? He scored 4 touchdowns for Polk High in the City Championship. His life would have been completely different.

Peggy would have spent it all.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I wonder how much Al Bundy would have gotten in NIL? He scored 4 touchdowns for Polk High in the City Championship. His life would have been completely different.

This guy?

 

[bobbyinaz]

Diego Pavia court ruling another potentially massive blow for NCAA — 'It's not going to end until we collectively bargain'

The 30,000-foot view of the Pavia decision: It not only paves the way for all junior college players to gain an additional year, but it may invite even more legal challenges over the NCAA's eligibility rules.

sports.yahoo.com

If this get held up schools can use JUCOs as minor leagues. Basically park kids for a couple years until they are ready to go.

Charlie Baker was on Pat McAfee today and while I think he’s trying to bail water from the titanic as NCAA President, he made an interesting point.

If a kid plays 2 years at JUCO and then gets 4 years at FBS does that give everyone 6 years (or whatever) of eligibility?

He was basically begging Congress to help him find a way to fix this mess.

 

[How Sway?!]

Charlie Baker was on Pat McAfee today and while I think he’s trying to bail water from the titanic as NCAA President, he made an interesting point.

If a kid plays 2 years at JUCO and then gets 4 years at FBS does that give everyone 6 years (or whatever) of eligibility?

He was basically begging Congress to help him find a way to fix this mess.

Issue seems that NCAA doesn't treat Juco and prep schools the same. A player can spend a year at a prep school without affecting his eligibility but if that same player had gone the Juco route, his eligibility clock would have started.

 

[WrenchFan69]

Diego Pavia court ruling another potentially massive blow for NCAA — 'It's not going to end until we collectively bargain'

The 30,000-foot view of the Pavia decision: It not only paves the way for all junior college players to gain an additional year, but it may invite even more legal challenges over the NCAA's eligibility rules.

sports.yahoo.com

If this get held up schools can use JUCOs as minor leagues. Basically park kids for a couple years until they are ready to go.

This would be a pretty huge boon for JuCos I would imagine. If this holds up I would assume NAIA will fall into the same umbrella

 

[ZooCougar]

This would be a pretty huge boon for JuCos I would imagine. If this holds up I would assume NAIA will fall into the same umbrella

Why would extend to the NAIA? Those are real 4 year schools.

Not counting JUCO towards eligibility is absurd. I hate how these players have so much power. They are destroying everything beautiful about college sports.

 

[ZooCougar]

Issue seems that NCAA doesn't treat Juco and prep schools the same. A player can spend a year at a prep school without affecting his eligibility but if that same player had gone the Juco route, his eligibility clock would have started.

Which would make sense. Since one is a high school/secondary school where you are competing with high school kids and that other is actually college sports.

 

[ZooCougar]

Charlie Baker was on Pat McAfee today and while I think he’s trying to bail water from the titanic as NCAA President, he made an interesting point.

If a kid plays 2 years at JUCO and then gets 4 years at FBS does that give everyone 6 years (or whatever) of eligibility?

He was basically begging Congress to help him find a way to fix this mess.

Worse.

They could get two free years and JUCO and then 4 years to play 5 in the NCAA.

With injury redshirts you could have kids playing college sports for nearly a decade on the regular.

 

[Exit 4]

Worse.

They could get two free years and JUCO and then 4 years to play 5 in the NCAA.

With injury redshirts you could have kids playing college sports for nearly a decade on the regular.

Once this happens there will just be a straight case to argue there should be no caps whatsoever. "Grad students should be able to play until their third PHD is completed!" I look forward to the 32 year old QBs and place kickers (sarcasm).

 

[noeynox]

HS guys really getting screwed here. Oh well.

 

[Kolumbo]

Once this happens there will just be a straight case to argue there should be no caps whatsoever. "Grad students should be able to play until their third PHD is completed!" I look forward to the 32 year old QBs and place kickers (sarcasm).

They'll warm up playing scrimmage games against the Jets

 

[Exit 4]

They'll warm up playing scrimmage games against the Jets

Ha, there is next move after the "unlimited rule" and that is why can't people play in the pros and then go back to college? I can just see it now; "Your starter today at QB is XYZ who you might remember played three years in the NFL and after a break has decided to ABC school at age 31 to get his MBA/PHD."

 

[JohnFSilver]

Issue seems that NCAA doesn't treat Juco and prep schools the same. A player can spend a year at a prep school without affecting his eligibility but if that same player had gone the Juco route, his eligibility clock would have started.

I mean, one school is high school. One school is college. What am I missing??

 

[UConnJim]

I mean, one school is high school. One school is college. What am I missing??

This is a tricky debate. Some parents/kids are more sophisticated when it comes to eligibility, etc. For example, a kid who my son competed against who is 2 years older than him (son is a college sophomore) is playing D1 basketball and he is a redshirt freshman! He played the hold back/PG/redshirt game as his parents are very sophisticated when it comes to eligibility and have the money to afford it. And, there are many kids who do 1 year at a community college before going to college and use up a year of eligibility when they could have done a PG year if they understood the process or had the money to afford it and not used up a year.

 

[uconnyankee]

I like how tweets have become articles…

 

[Stinger92860]

A local former D2 Standout kept each of his kids back one year and it helped each of them. Now I think his kids were excellent D1 players anyway but the hold back was in 5th grade. What they are dong now 15 years later is unknown to me, but they were great kids In high school.

 

[JohnFSilver]

A local former D2 Standout kept each of his kids back one year and it helped each of them. Now I think his kids were excellent D1 players anyway but the hold back was in 5th grade. What they are dong now 15 years later is unknown to me, but they were great kids In high school.

They just play the robb classify game.

When you are in 10th grade, you go to prep school and stay in 10th grade.

Essentially, they are giving you a post grad year, or two, if you need it.

 

[Purple Stein]

I like how tweets have become articles…

Articles might as well be novels at this point

 

[Samoo]

They just play the robb classify game.

When you are in 10th grade, you go to prep school and stay in 10th grade.

Essentially, they are giving you a post grad year, or two, if you need it.

Academics at boarding school are substantially superior to most public high schools. It is relatively common for kids transferring that they need to repeat a grade to catch up.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

I mean, one school is high school. One school is college. What am I missing??

Juco is college sports. It is sports at a college. The JUCO kid couldn't afford a prep year at Loomis. That's the difference.

 

[How Sway?!]

I mean, one school is high school. One school is college. What am I missing??

And yet the players are the same age most of the time. So then it becomes a question, when does your NCAA eligibility clock start? When you graduate high school or when you enroll in a NCAA school?

 

[ZooCougar]

And yet the players are the same age most of the time. So then it becomes a question, when does your NCAA eligibility clock start? When you graduate high school or when you enroll in a NCAA school?

The clock doesn’t have to start if you aren’t in an NCAA school. NAIA and JUCO count too.

If you’re still in high school basically repeating your senior year then it doesn’t for obvious reasons.

 

[JohnFSilver]

And yet the players are the same age most of the time. So then it becomes a question, when does your NCAA eligibility clock start? When you graduate high school or when you enroll in a NCAA school?

Should be ncaa school.

 

[Waquoit]

He was basically begging Congress to help him find a way to fix this mess.

The NCAA got the leadership it deserves.

 

[UConnJim]

Academics at boarding school are substantially superior to most public high schools. It is relatively common for kids transferring that they need to repeat a grade to catch up.

Every kid I know who did a PG year did it to improve their college athletic options. For example, a kid who didn't start until senior year so they were overlooked by recruiters. Or an undersized kid who needs some additional development.

 

[ZooCougar]

I went to a private school with a sprinkling of PGs. A few were were future West Pointers looking to keep playing D1 Hockey, they had some sort of academic shortcoming that had to be rectified.. We had one PG from Canada who had played junior hockey and was trying to get a scholarship.

In most cases they were targeting private northeast schools with academic standards. Some were just hoping to get a few more options. We had resources to help people with SAT test prep, and some probably had learning disabilities so there were resources for that. It was really just a repeat of their senior years. I can't think of a single case where the student and the school didn't benefit.