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Dayooper,

I personally believe that if both schools could choose what does happen, both UVA and UNC would get offers to the B1G while Va Tech and NC State would get offers from the SEC (to eliminate state government concerns).

I don't know if the profiles are sufficient for NC St or Va Tech for the SEC to look at them, but culturally, their fan bases are far more aligned to SEC schools than UNC or UVA's.

I also am not yet ready to believe that the B1G will go into states where they are not getting that state's major player.
 
dayooper said:
Here’s the article:

Sands and Whit have 1 job right now - Get into the SEC or Big Ten

Virginia Tech Hokies football, basketball and athletics blog and forum featuring: breaking news, film studies, in-depth analysis, recruiting, videos and jokes. Also, we don't care much for UVa.
www.thekeyplay.com www.thekeyplay.com

I actually prefer VT to UVA. I think their football would fit very nicely in with the Big10. They have a rabid fan base and have had success.

Now they aren’t above ACC schools like FSU, ND, Clemson and UNC, but I would have no problem to VT as a partner with the schools above.
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I prefer VA Tech to UVA from the football standpoint as well, but I just don't see the B10 going that far down the totem pole before they say they're done adding mouths to feed.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Dayooper,

I personally believe that if both schools could choose what does happen, both UVA and UNC would get offers to the B1G while Va Tech and NC State would get offers from the SEC (to eliminate state government concerns).

I don't know if the profiles are sufficient for NC St or Va Tech for the SEC to look at them, but culturally, their fan bases are far more aligned to SEC schools than UNC or UVA's.

I also am not yet ready to believe that the B1G will go into states where they are not getting that state's major player.
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It’s definitely an interesting question, and honestly I think a good argument could be made that if given the choice in 2024 that UVA and UNC would prefer The SEC.

Despite the more liberal nature of their academic sides, their fanbases, alums, and key boosters are decidedly old south in their leaning. In a perfect scenario they would stay in a viable ACC forever, but that scenario is quickly going away.

My guess is that when it comes time to put pen to paper, they will feel more aligned with Alabama, UGA, and Florida than they do with Michigan, OSU, and Penn State.

With the academic profile of The SEC rapidly improving and success on the basketball court becoming a real thing, it’s not that hard to imagine. The SEC’s best move would be UNC, Duke, UVA, and Clemson. They could legitimately lay claim to best football and basketball conference in one swift move.

As a bonus they likely keep The B1G out of Virginia, The Carolinas and Georgia forever, because it’s highly unlikely that the money or support would be there for VPI, NCSU, or GT. The only move that they could make to try to keep pace would be FSU and ND, but that is far from certain.
 
Waquoit said:
The fact is there just aren't that many UConn football fans out there. Not nearly enough to fill a fraction of the Rent. What the Hartford-area is full of is though, is straight out football fans that will support the team and buy tickets when the program has an avenue to the big-time. That what sold the program and built the stadium, UConn promised the big-time. And when that promise was fulfilled, the place was packed. And when that was taken away, away went most of the fanbase. It will come back if UConn gets in a real league. Until then, it's just a holding pattern.
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Agree with this. Add to a UConn alumni sports fan and it will rebuild itself with FB W’s
 
Ldandy said:
It’s definitely an interesting question, and honestly I think a good argument could be made that if given the choice in 2024 that UVA and UNC would prefer The SEC.

Despite the more liberal nature of their academic sides, their fanbases, alums, and key boosters are decidedly old south in their leaning. In a perfect scenario they would stay in a viable ACC forever, but that scenario is quickly going away.

My guess is that when it comes time to put pen to paper, they will feel more aligned with Alabama, UGA, and Florida than they do with Michigan, OSU, and Penn State.

With the academic profile of The SEC rapidly improving and success on the basketball court becoming a real thing, it’s not that hard to imagine. The SEC’s best move would be UNC, Duke, UVA, and Clemson. They could legitimately lay claim to best football and basketball conference in one swift move.

As a bonus they likely keep The B1G out of Virginia, The Carolinas and Georgia forever, because it’s highly unlikely that the money or support would be there for VPI, NCSU, or GT. The only move that they could make to try to keep pace would be FSU and ND, but that is far from certain.
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Seems reasonable, but why would the SEC prefer Clemson to FSU? For that matter why Duke to FSU?

UNC, UVa, FSU, and Clemson would be a good top 4 for the SEC.

I could see the B1G going for ND and UVa, SEC taking their pick of the rest. If travel, contiguity, and academics matter, UVa is better than FSU. FSU wins on athletics and money.
 
pj said:
Seems reasonable, but why would the SEC prefer Clemson to FSU? For that matter why Duke to FSU?

UNC, UVa, FSU, and Clemson would be a good top 4 for the SEC.

I could see the B1G going for ND and UVa, SEC taking their pick of the rest. If travel, contiguity, and academics matter, UVa is better than FSU. FSU wins on athletics and money.
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Why would the Big10 take UVA over FSU? It doesn’t get them any more money. They didn’t take the best academic D1 school in the last go around (Stanford) and the top school in the California system Cal Berkeley), why would they take a lower rated school that doesn’t even come close to making money for them? FSU wins on athletics, money and ratings in the 3rd largest state. Now, does FSU want the Big10? Some day that’s their preference, others say it’s the SEC. I don’t know but the Big10 (for athletic and general population students) and their media partners would love to get into the state of Florida and have national games with the Big10 brands of OSU, PSU, Michigan, USC and Washington.
 
huskymedic said:
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11 Units for the Big East (3) and 10 for the MWC (6).
So UConn has earned 5 Units while Creighton & Marquette earned 3 each for the conference.

UConn and DePaul will both receive $2 million earned this year.
Ebon also posted a video explaining how units work. :D

Units.JPG
 
Kolumbo said:
11 Units for the Big East (3) and 10 for the MWC (6).
So UConn has earned 5 Units while Creighton & Marquette earned 3 each for the conference.

UConn and DePaul will both receive $2 million earned this year.
Ebon also posted a video explaining how units work. :D

View attachment 98738
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And this is why the BE only getting 3 bids really hurts.

And why Marquette and Creighton spitting the bit hurts.
 
Chin Diesel said:
And this is why the BE only getting 3 bids really hurts.

And why Marquette and Creighton spitting the bit hurts.
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+1
The real problem with the Big East buttering their bread with credits is the feast or famine nature of it. I'd prefer to have a regular payout that can be counted on every single year.
 
I always find it more interesting to look at units above expected (particularly over a range of years)... I wouldn't say either team spit the bit (Creighton actually finished where it's seed would project them too), the Big East finished one below what they would expect based on the seeds (contrary to the narrative, the Mountain West actually finished one ahead):

Units above Expectation this year (play-in games confer 0.5 expected units):
1) ACC +4.5
2) Pac-12 +1.5
T-3) 7 Tied with +1
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32) Big XII -7
31) SEC -4
T-29) American & Big East -1
 
ScottVib said:
I always find it more interesting to look at units above expected (particularly over a range of years)... I wouldn't say either team spit the bit (Creighton actually finished where it's seed would project them too), the Big East finished one below what they would expect based on the seeds (contrary to the narrative, the Mountain West actually finished one ahead):

Units above Expectation this year (play-in games confer 0.5 expected units):
1) ACC +4.5
2) Pac-12 +1.5
T-3) 7 Tied with +1
--
32) Big XII -7
31) SEC -4
T-29) American & Big East -1
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This emphasizes the importance of the loss of the bids to Seton Hall, St. John's, impossibly Providence. If all three of them get in that's another 6 million to the conference. If two of them win a game that's another 4 million.
 
ZooCougar said:

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Say what you want about the B1G not winning a basketball championship in over two decades, those teams still draw the tv ratings. I want to see the Iowa-LSU women's ratings from last night. I bet it beats the men.
 
Rufus said:
Say what you want about the B1G not winning a basketball championship in over two decades, those teams still draw the tv ratings. I want to see the Iowa-LSU women's ratings from last night. I bet it beats the men.
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Is your favorite team Minnesota? Hi Greg.
 
huskymedic said:
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Another reason to pull March Madness away from the corrupt NCAA... What a joke!
They clearly sucked up to the P-2 and soon to be dissolved ACC. With Seton Hall, St.Js and maybe PC, the BE gets another 6-8 units.

Well there is nothing more to do now except smash the crap out of Alabama and whoever else this weekend!
 
Sea Goat said:
Another reason to pull March Madness away from the corrupt NCAA... What a joke!
They clearly sucked up to the P-2 and soon to be dissolved ACC. With Seton Hall, St.Js and maybe PC, the BE gets another 6-8 units.

Well there is nothing more to do now except smash the crap out of Alabama and whoever else this weekend!
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"the corrupt NCAA"... yeah because its been real clear NCAA employees have been stuffing their pants full of cash, huh?

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean its corrupt.
 
huskymedic said:
Probably deserves its own thread but triple-tasking:
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Scary article. All current P5 members and SMU will be in. All others will be out, but may be able to earn a spot if they improve. Bottom feeders in the P5 can continue to be bottom feeders and will be forever safe. Terrible news for UConn. SMU was very smart to get into the ACC even if it meant 10 years of no income.
 
buddy said:
Scary article. All current P5 members and SMU will be in. All others will be out, but may be able to earn a spot if they improve. Bottom feeders in the P5 can continue to be bottom feeders and will be forever safe. Terrible news for UConn. SMU was very smart to get into the ACC even if it meant 10 years of no income.
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I think we can squeeze in with a few others if it comes to that. Sure would be a good time to win dual natties again. We’ve got to stay way above the other non P5 schools in stature.
 
Hoophound said:
I think we can squeeze in with a few others if it comes to that. Sure would be a good time to win dual natties again. We’ve got to stay way above the other non P5 schools in stature.
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Sadly, it has nothing to do with basketball. Only football matters. The thing I don't understand with the new realignment is how the SEC and B1G members reassigned to a new conference feel about getting less money. Also what is the effect on TV networks that fund the conferences. The B1G and SEC will not be happy sharing.
 
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