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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

shizzle787 said:
Considering BYU, WSU, and OSU all went independent, you’re wrong.
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BYU is a different case due to the religious affiliation and national footprint, and WSU/OSU is being disingenuous at best considering it just happened.
 
John said:
BYU is a different case due to the religious affiliation and national footprint, and WSU/OSU is being disingenuous at best considering it just happened.
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How is that disingenuous? OSU and WSU are in the relatively same position UConn was in. They can rebuild the Pac-12 with MW schools or go indy/WCC. They chose the latter. UConn chose the equivalent of the former. WOSU doesn’t want to be associated with the G5 moniker. To boot, the Big East of 2013 was better than the current WCC.
 
shizzle787 said:
How is that disingenuous? OSU and WSU are in the relatively same position UConn was in. They can rebuild the Pac-12 with MW schools or go indy/WCC. They chose the latter. UConn chose the equivalent of the former. WOSU doesn’t want to be associated with the G5 moniker. To boot, the Big East of 2013 was better than the current WCC.
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Just to be clear- OSU and WSU aren’t choosing to be Independent. In fact, they’re actually contractually obligated to rebuild the Pac-12 to at least an 8 team league by 2026 given the settlement they reached this week with the old PAC-12 schools. They’re not even Independent this year or next, technically remaining in the PAC-12 playing majority of non-conference games against the Mountain West.

And BYU is far and away different from UConn football wise and institutionally. Not only does BYU have a football NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP under their belt, but they have a massive religious following that allowed them to float themselves as an independent for a temporary period of time. But even then, it was never designed for them to be an Independent long term and their November scheduling was absolutely atrocious.

There is a massive difference between you personally feeling like being an Independent is fine versus how it’s perceived in the NCAA athletics landscape. Independence is not a long term solution for ANYONE in FBS - even Notre Dame is quasi-affiliated with the ACC. Pretending otherwise is just foolish and stupid.
 
ZooCougar said:
For football, UConn wasted its AAC opportunity. After Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse and WVU were gone we should have been head and shoulders above everything in that conference with Cincy as the other rival.

Instead Herbst and Manuel squandered it away. They didn’t resource football the right way. Raised admission standards too high and god knows waste else. Too many institutional barriers..

If we had spent more money on the front end of the AAC, we might be in a better spot and lost much less money.

Herbst and Manuel were total losers who should have been launched into the sun.
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I blame killing spring weekend
 
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OSU/WSU are independent in name only. They are literally playing full 8-game MWC schedules. Sure they don’t count in the standings… but they aren’t scheduling as an independent and the language came with massive penalties to them if they try to rebuild the PAC-2 with MWC schools (unless they take the entire conference)
 
Drew said:
Just to be clear- OSU and WSU aren’t choosing to be Independent. In fact, they’re actually contractually obligated to rebuild the Pac-12 to at least an 8 team league by 2026 given the settlement they reached this week with the old PAC-12 schools. They’re not even Independent this year or next, technically remaining in the PAC-12 playing majority of non-conference games against the Mountain West.

And BYU is far and away different from UConn football wise and institutionally. Not only does BYU have a football NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP under their belt, but they have a massive religious following that allowed them to float themselves as an independent for a temporary period of time. But even then, it was never designed for them to be an Independent long term and their November scheduling was absolutely atrocious.

There is a massive difference between you personally feeling like being an Independent is fine versus how it’s perceived in the NCAA athletics landscape. Independence is not a long term solution for ANYONE in FBS - even Notre Dame is quasi-affiliated with the ACC. Pretending otherwise is just foolish and stupid.
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I have not found the contractually obligated to reform the Pac-12 part anywhere. Also, they are getting 3.6M per year from the CFP from 26-28 for being independent. No one knows if they get to keep that if they reform a G6 Pac-12.

If UConn felt it was better to be in a G5 football league than be independent, we would have already done it. Oh wait, we did and then left and then denied an invite from CUSA.
 
ScottVib said:
OSU/WSU are independent in name only. They are literally playing full 8-game MWC schedules. Sure they don’t count in the standings… but they aren’t scheduling as an independent and the language came with massive penalties to them if they try to rebuild the PAC-2 with MWC schools (unless they take the entire conference)
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No they are not. They are playing six game schedules. They happened to have already scheduled 1-2 MW as part of prior arrangements. Also, they are both paying the MW 7 million for the arrangement. They also are playing their games on an OTA network the CW as opposed to primarily CBS Sports Network.
 
CashewCrew said:
www.insidezonemf.com

The ACC needs to add UConn

Don't overthink this. A conference with a rich basketball history could bolster its hoops product and offer a lifeline to the Huskies' independent football program.
www.insidezonemf.com www.insidezonemf.com
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Nothing that Boneyarders haven’t said in many different iterations, but nice to see it in print.
Two thoughts:
#1
Doomed
Go Huskies
 
shizzle787 said:
Considering BYU, WSU, and OSU all went independent, you’re wrong.
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BYU is a football brand. And they went independent at a time when it was easier to be independent.

Also they aren’t independent anymore so what are you even saying?

OSU and WSU? That’s not by choice. So again, what are you even talking about?
 
shizzle787 said:
I have not found the contractually obligated to reform the Pac-12 part anywhere. Also, they are getting 3.6M per year from the CFP from 26-28 for being independent. No one knows if they get to keep that if they reform a G6 Pac-12.

If UConn felt it was better to be in a G5 football league than be independent, we would have already done it. Oh wait, we did and then left and then denied an invite from CUSA.
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What G5 league is offering us a football only slot?

I’ll wait.
 
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shizzle787 said:
I have not found the contractually obligated to reform the Pac-12 part anywhere. Also, they are getting 3.6M per year from the CFP from 26-28 for being independent. No one knows if they get to keep that if they reform a G6 Pac-12.

If UConn felt it was better to be in a G5 football league than be independent, we would have already done it. Oh wait, we did and then left and then denied an invite from CUSA.
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www.mercurynews.com

Pac-12 legal affairs: What the negotiated settlement means for WSU, OSU and the 10 departing members

The settlement announced in December was finalized this week and gives Washington State and Oregon State the rights to all future revenue.
www.mercurynews.com www.mercurynews.com

“Another provision designed to protect the outbound schools: if the PAC-12 conference desolves before August 2026, all 12 current members will share the assets, thus ensuring WSU and OSU can’t shut the lights out and keep the money for themselves”

They have a two year “grace period” from the NCAA to operate as a 2 team league (2024 and 2025). Given the above contractual provision in the settlement, they have to rebuild the PAC-12 (perhaps a reverse merger with some of all of the MWC) by summer 2026 to keep their $250M.
 
Drew said:
www.mercurynews.com

Pac-12 legal affairs: What the negotiated settlement means for WSU, OSU and the 10 departing members

The settlement announced in December was finalized this week and gives Washington State and Oregon State the rights to all future revenue.
www.mercurynews.com www.mercurynews.com

“Another provision designed to protect the outbound schools: if the PAC-12 conference desolves before August 2026, all 12 current members will share the assets, thus ensuring WSU and OSU can’t shut the lights out and keep the money for themselves”

They have a two year “grace period” from the NCAA to operate as a 2 team league (2024 and 2025). Given the above contractual provision in the settlement, they have to rebuild the PAC-12 (perhaps a reverse merger with some of all of the MWC) by summer 2026 to keep their $250M.
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UConn to the PAC 12, you heard it here first
 
The fact is there just aren't that many UConn football fans out there. Not nearly enough to fill a fraction of the Rent. What the Hartford-area is full of is though, is straight out football fans that will support the team and buy tickets when the program has an avenue to the big-time. That what sold the program and built the stadium, UConn promised the big-time. And when that promise was fulfilled, the place was packed. And when that was taken away, away went most of the fanbase. It will come back if UConn gets in a real league. Until then, it's just a holding pattern.
 
Waquoit said:
The fact is there just aren't that many UConn football fans out there. Not nearly enough to fill a fraction of the Rent. What the Hartford-area is full of is though, is straight out football fans that will support the team and buy tickets when the program has an avenue to the big-time. That what sold the program and built the stadium, UConn promised the big-time. And when that promise was fulfilled, the place was packed. And when that was taken away, away went most of the fanbase. It will come back if UConn gets in a real league. Until then, it's just a holding pattern.
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It just feels like we are slowly starving to death at this point. There aren’t options other than Indy and that’s not helping.
 
Drew said:
www.mercurynews.com

Pac-12 legal affairs: What the negotiated settlement means for WSU, OSU and the 10 departing members

The settlement announced in December was finalized this week and gives Washington State and Oregon State the rights to all future revenue.
www.mercurynews.com www.mercurynews.com

“Another provision designed to protect the outbound schools: if the PAC-12 conference desolves before August 2026, all 12 current members will share the assets, thus ensuring WSU and OSU can’t shut the lights out and keep the money for themselves”

They have a two year “grace period” from the NCAA to operate as a 2 team league (2024 and 2025). Given the above contractual provision in the settlement, they have to rebuild the PAC-12 (perhaps a reverse merger with some of all of the MWC) by summer 2026 to keep their $250M.
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Key words: before August 2026. They can dissolve the league in September 2026 and keep all the assets. Your interpretation is wrong. Post August 2026, they do not need to rebuild the league especially because they are getting 3.6 M per year from 2026-28 from the CFP.
 
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If the stadium was on campus, the football games would have more attendance and a better atmosphere to present to Conference, but they made the decision to have it in Hartford, which hurts things overall. I work at USC and the football environment is fantastic with alumni and others attending games. I hope UConn finds a home for the football program but we will most likely have to settle for what’s left
 
shizzle787 said:
Key words: before August 2026. They can dissolve the league in September 2026 and keep all the assets. Your interpretation is wrong. Post August 2026, they do not need to rebuild the league especially because they are getting 3.6 M per year from 2026-28 from the CFP.
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Your original point was that they had gone independent. They have not. They are in the PAC-2 for two years.
They are not independent.
 
BlueHen said:
Your original point was that they had gone independent. They have not. They are in the PAC-2 for two years.
They are not independent.
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They are independent in all but name.
 
shizzle787 said:
Key words: before August 2026. They can dissolve the league in September 2026 and keep all the assets. Your interpretation is wrong. Post August 2026, they do not need to rebuild the league especially because they are getting 3.6 M per year from 2026-28 from the CFP.
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Shizzle- you are wrong. Just admit it and stop digging deeper.
 
BlueHen said:
Your original point was that they had gone independent. They have not. They are in the PAC-2 for two years.
They are not independent.
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And not only that, John Canzanno and others on the west coast have started saying there is real momentum for them to rebuild the league and keep the PAC-12 monicker

They have not ever expressed any interest in going Independent. The only person on the planet that thinks that’s the case is Shizzle. Guy is living in his own fantasy land.
 
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