Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Drew]

ACC sued FSU YESTERDAY! in North Carolina! Says all matters pertaining to FSU and the ACC are under North Carolina jurisdiction. lol

ACC sues FSU Board of Trustees as legal battle with Board heightens

According to the court documents, the lawsuit was filed around 5:18 p.m. on Thursday.

www.wctv.tv

 

[Drew]

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Everything else aside, how the F#$% is it possible that a signatory party to a legally binding agreement is not allowed to have an executed copy of said agreement?

 

[ZooCougar]

Correlation does not equal causation

Right. It’s not like the B1G doesn’t benefit massive from its research partnership. And plenty of other schools use sports to raise money for their endowments. And when I say sports it really just means football.

Seriously, just stop talking.

 

[CashewCrew]

So ND makes less than the Big East for non-football sports, interesting.

 

[hoopsfan22]

Everything else aside, how the F#$% is it possible that a signatory party to a legally binding agreement is not allowed to have an executed copy of said agreement?

Are they a signatory party though? Isn't the legally binding agreement between ESPN and the ACC and not the ACC members et al?

 

[Drew]

 

[noeynox]

So NDs payment is roughly in line with what BE schools get? Seems fair.

 

[UConnJim]

So NDs payment is roughly in line with what BE schools get? Seems fair.

Includes 2 to 3 football games per year.

 

[noeynox]

Includes 2 to 3 football games per year.

Huh. ND underpaid by them by a lot then and they don't bitch, which shows how much they value Independent status.

 

[jostar1]

 

[Vowelguy]

ESPN podcasts, Thamel, Herbstreit etc are mostly schills for their corporate bosses.

If you think ESPN is telling Herbstreit what to say, yiu have no credibility.

 

[Rufus]

The key tweet thread has reached 800 pages in length in 11 years and 1 month time!

 

[c29328]

ACC will not add UConn. They listed 10 or so possible candidates for expansion before adding the 3 Sucksateers and UConn isn’t even on their radar.

Only positive scenario for UConn is a total ACC implosion that results in essentially a reformation of the 2003 Big East Conference

Maybe. the sooner the "Super conference" comes together, the better. The teams not in those two top level conferences can re-engineer B league college football and start playing regionally again. UConn won't be in that club but I think there is potential for a pretty robust B league over time. Some really good programs are going to get left out.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

If a half dozen teams leave the ACC, UConn has very good chance of being a replacement. ACC will make basketball a priority,

6 schools to bring in ahead of UConn
Memphis
USF
Tulane
JMU
Liberty
ECU

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

Maybe. the sooner the "Super conference" comes together, the better. The teams not in those two top level conferences can re-engineer B league college football and start playing regionally again. UConn won't be in that club but I think there is potential for a pretty robust B league over time. Some really good programs are going to get left out.

And our days of playing in March Madness are over

 

[Vowelguy]

6 schools to bring in ahead of UConn
Memphis
USF
Tulane
JMU
Liberty
ECU

Liberty aint happening

 

[c29328]

And our days of playing in March Madness are over

Maybe. It's out of our control either way. Sports landscape is moving on without the mid tier football guys. It's done. It's been done for years. As far as march madness, my bet is they will still be pulling 32 teams or so at large for hoops. Who knows though.

 

[Waquoit]

ESPN not having a guarantee to extend the deal past 2027 is HUGE. That is FSU's out right there.

I was thinking exactly that. Good enough for a Florida court anyway.

 

[Rockford]

If you think ESPN is telling Herbstreit what to say, yiu have no credibility.

You have a vowel misplaced there genius....You don't think a highly paid employee speaks for the best financial interests of his employer? He certainly carries the water for ESPN & their partner the SEC.

 

[Waquoit]

You have a vowel misplaced there genius

Thanks

 

[Waquoit]

6 schools to bring in ahead of UConn
Memphis
USF
Tulane
JMU
Liberty
ECU

The main reason the ACC didn't want UConn is because they sued the ACC. Now that the FSU and the ACC are trading lawsuits, that's no longer a valid reason. So I imagine UConn gets bumped to the top now.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Lawsuits are good now? Just checking, been awhile.

 

[huskymedic]

Everything else aside, how the F#$% is it possible that a signatory party to a legally binding agreement is not allowed to have an executed copy of said agreement?

Are they a signatory party though? Isn't the legally binding agreement between ESPN and the ACC and not the ACC members et al?

 

[How Sway?!]

Right. It’s not like the B1G doesn’t benefit massive from its research partnership. And plenty of other schools use sports to raise money for their endowments. And when I say sports it really just means football.

Seriously, just stop talking.

I don't know how to tell you this, but you don't know what you're talking about. Endowments were a thing long before big time athletics were a thing and grew long before big time football became a thing. The B1G research partnership also has nothing to do with athletics, they just pool academic resources to be more competitive.

I suggest you take your own advice and stop tapking

 

[Gburyhusky]

I know there are financial considerations, but after reading all the legal filings and statements today, I simply don't understand how there are any UConn fans who would willingly advocate for us to be associated at all with the ACC and its toxic brand and institutions.

 

[Vowelguy]

The main reason the ACC didn't want UConn is because they sued the ACC.

No.

 

[Vowelguy]

You have a vowel misplaced there genius....You don't think a highly paid employee speaks for the best financial interests of his employer? He certainly carries the water for ESPN & their partner the SEC.

Herbstreit would be a highly prized hire at any network. He has no reason to cowtow to corporate. And part of his reputation rests on speaking honestly without bias.

 

[ZooCougar]

I don't know how to tell you this, but you don't know what you're talking about. Endowments were a thing long before big time athletics were a thing and grew long before big time football became a thing. The B1G research partnership also has nothing to do with athletics, they just pool academic resources to be more competitive.

I suggest you take your own advice and stop tapking

So you’re denying that schools use football to fundraise? Having an FBS program is a big part of a University’s public profile.

Even for the Ivies football is big for Alums and fundraising.

Keep digging that hole.

 

[ZooCougar]

At some point this is what it boils down to for ESPN. If they can't keep FSU, and a few others in the ACC, ESPN would want them in the SEC which ESPN also controls. Losing them to the B1G means losing them to FOX.

Why would ESPN pay FSU three times as much in the SEC when they are paying them about a third in the ACC?