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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
And our days of playing in March Madness are over
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Maybe. It's out of our control either way. Sports landscape is moving on without the mid tier football guys. It's done. It's been done for years. As far as march madness, my bet is they will still be pulling 32 teams or so at large for hoops. Who knows though.
 
Rufus said:
ESPN not having a guarantee to extend the deal past 2027 is HUGE. That is FSU's out right there.
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I was thinking exactly that. Good enough for a Florida court anyway.
 
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ZooCougar said:
Right. It’s not like the B1G doesn’t benefit massive from its research partnership. And plenty of other schools use sports to raise money for their endowments. And when I say sports it really just means football.

Seriously, just stop talking.
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I don't know how to tell you this, but you don't know what you're talking about. Endowments were a thing long before big time athletics were a thing and grew long before big time football became a thing. The B1G research partnership also has nothing to do with athletics, they just pool academic resources to be more competitive.

I suggest you take your own advice and stop tapking
 
I know there are financial considerations, but after reading all the legal filings and statements today, I simply don't understand how there are any UConn fans who would willingly advocate for us to be associated at all with the ACC and its toxic brand and institutions.
 
Rockford said:
You have a vowel misplaced there genius....You don't think a highly paid employee speaks for the best financial interests of his employer? He certainly carries the water for ESPN & their partner the SEC.
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Herbstreit would be a highly prized hire at any network. He has no reason to cowtow to corporate. And part of his reputation rests on speaking honestly without bias.
 
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How Sway?! said:
I don't know how to tell you this, but you don't know what you're talking about. Endowments were a thing long before big time athletics were a thing and grew long before big time football became a thing. The B1G research partnership also has nothing to do with athletics, they just pool academic resources to be more competitive.

I suggest you take your own advice and stop tapking
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So you’re denying that schools use football to fundraise? Having an FBS program is a big part of a University’s public profile.

Even for the Ivies football is big for Alums and fundraising.

Keep digging that hole.
 
Chin Diesel said:
At some point this is what it boils down to for ESPN. If they can't keep FSU, and a few others in the ACC, ESPN would want them in the SEC which ESPN also controls. Losing them to the B1G means losing them to FOX.
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Why would ESPN pay FSU three times as much in the SEC when they are paying them about a third in the ACC?
 
hoopsfan22 said:
Are they a signatory party though? Isn't the legally binding agreement between ESPN and the ACC and not the ACC members et al?
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Perhaps I misread it but I thought it stated that the Grant of Rights agreement is what the attorneys couldn't copy. That agreement is between the member schools and the ACC. The media deal is between the ACC and ESPN.
 
ZooCougar said:
So you’re denying that schools use football to fundraise? Having an FBS program is a big part of a University’s public profile.

Even for the Ivies football is big for Alums and fundraising.

Keep digging that hole.
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No, I'm saying it's a miniscule part of their overall fundraising.

Also for the ivies, they get a lot more donations from other sports than they do for football. If they actually thought football was important for their academic profile, they would participate in the FCS playoffs.
 
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noeynox said:
Huh. ND underpaid by them by a lot then and they don't bitch, which shows how much they value Independent status.
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I thought it showed more how little value basketball has to the TV rights deal, even in the ACC. Yormark is probably right that basketball is undervalued, but he's got to convince a network partner that there is more money to be made from hoops (or successfully sever basketball/olympic sports and football rights).
 
How Sway?! said:
No, I'm saying it's a miniscule part of their overall fundraising.

Also for the ivies, they get a lot more donations from other sports than they do for football. If they actually thought football was important for their academic profile, they would participate in the FCS playoffs.
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Football/Sports is part of the image of the school. And it is a crucial part of fundraising.
 
ZooCougar said:
Football/Sports is part of the image of the school. And it is a crucial part of fundraising.
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I'm not saying it's doesn't play a part, but calling it crucial is incorrect.

Of the top 15 donations to universities, only 6 were given to schools playing FBS football, and of those 6, 3 were by Phil Knight, 1 was to Western Michigan, another to Northwestern, and last one to Stanford.

So of 15, only 5 went to schools in big time football, and that is being generous to Northwestern and Stanford
 
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Dream Jobbed 2.0 said:
6 schools to bring in ahead of UConn
Memphis
USF
Tulane
JMU
Liberty
ECU
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LOL. The ACC is never bringing in Liberty. The Sun Belt doesn't even want them. Wake and Duke will never accept ECU. VaTech will never accept JMU. If Miami is left behind, they will never accept USF. Memphis keeps getting left behind for a reason, and Tulane has been good at football for all of two minutes. We are fine.
 
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