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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

I was listening to a Podcast (Patrick Bet-David) and he mentioned that if the next president bans pharma ads on cable TV (not impossible), 75% of cable ad revenue will go away and that will kill sports deals.
 
CL82 said:
The really interesting issue is that if four objectors are basically holding out until all or the vast majority of this money accrues to them, does another school change it to vote to no? I mean no amount of money the ACC allocates to FSU is ever going to placate them. Why bother trying?
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If those 3 schools get offer then ESPN gives conference 72 million to split- probably unevenly between other ACC schools
Seems like a completely disfunctional way to run an organization. Hypothetically -Syracuse gets 3% while FSU gets 60%

Bad business will create bad outcomes for most of the Universities in that conference.
 
shizzle787 said:
I was listening to a Podcast (Patrick Bet-David) and he mentioned that if the next president bans pharma ads on cable TV (not impossible), 75% of cable ad revenue will go away and that will kill sports deals.
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You certainly can't watch a ball game and not get like 6 ads for conditions you didn't know existed.
 
shizzle787 said:
I was listening to a Podcast (Patrick Bet-David) and he mentioned that if the next president bans pharma ads on cable TV (not impossible), 75% of cable ad revenue will go away and that will kill sports deals.
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Many country ban ads from pharmaceutical companies with USA being the exception. All the doctors are trained and encouraged by the pharma reps to give prescriptions every chance they get. Same drug in the USA can cost 10x what Canadians pay just across the border. Health care is truly for profit while pharmaceutical lobby interests heavily influence government policies.

That's the system we got.
 
BigTenFan said:
If those 3 schools get offer then ESPN gives conference 72 million to split- probably unevenly between other ACC schools
Seems like a completely disfunctional way to run an organization. Hypothetically -Syracuse gets 3% while FSU gets 60%

Bad business will create bad outcomes for most of the Universities in that conference.
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The travel for non-revenue sports would be terrible for the ACC schools as Cal and Stanford play many sports that would then play in the ACC. Think men's sports: baseball, cross country, golf, rowing, swimming and diving, tennis, track and field, wrestling. women's sports: cross country, field hockey, golf, gymnastics, lacrosse, rowing, soccer, softball, swimming and diving, tennis, track and field, volleyball.

Why would the ACC schools consider adding Stanford and Cal (or SMU), when you would get a small boost in revenues and a big increase in costs? $70 million divided by 14.33 = ~$5 million per school if split equally and other conference payouts like NCAA basketball credits and CFP payouts would be diluted by adding 3 schools. If our 3% for Syracuse is correct, they would get $2.1 million in revenues, then have higher travel costs and diluted NCAA and CFP payouts. Crazy if the add them.
 
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Patman said:
Been done before, will happen again.
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True, but ESPN has invested a lot and in the Bristol campus. Leaving there isn't some things that they would do lightly.
 
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uconnyankee said:
Yep.
Case in point, GE went from CT to MA.
Not saying the situations were/are comparable, but companies will leave if they think there is a better location.

Many states would gladly woo ESPN with tax breaks and other incentives.
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Then let them go. How much welfare are we supposed to give corporations? How many more free lunches do they need?
 
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how is it that we’re like the only school to win a national championship in basketball and reach a bowl game and still end up left at the table? I just don’t know what we do at this point. What else is there for us to prove?

If the ACC takes SMU, Stanford and Cal there’s legitimately no path left for a P5 invite until the 2030s.

Can someone explain to me what the heck we do?
 
Mora4Prez said:
how is it that we’re like the only school to win a national championship in basketball and reach a bowl game and still end up left at the table? I just don’t know what we do at this point. What else is there for us to prove?

If the ACC takes SMU, Stanford and Cal there’s legitimately no path left for a P5 invite until the 2030s.

Can someone explain to me what the heck we do?
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Might be a little late, but more commitment to football is the only way.
 
Even if it’s 7 years from now, Stanford, Cal and SMU will eventually get full ACC shares. This will cost the current members money. This is the point the ACC likely implodes. Only a few years later the GOR ends.
 
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Mora4Prez said:
how is it that we’re like the only school to win a national championship in basketball and reach a bowl game and still end up left at the table? I just don’t know what we do at this point. What else is there for us to prove?

If the ACC takes SMU, Stanford and Cal there’s legitimately no path left for a P5 invite until the 2030s.

Can someone explain to me what the heck we do?
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Just keep doing what your tour doing and enjoy watching UConn athletics. It's college sports, not life or death.
 
Rufus said:
Even if it’s 7 years from now, Stanford, Cal and SMU will eventually get full ACC shares. This will cost the current members money. This is the point the ACC likely implodes. Only a few years later the GOR ends.
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Full shares comes just after the Big XII’s new contract is hashed out. I imagine those negotiations will decide the ACC’s outlook. I don’t think the current media model is sustainable and I’m skeptical the Big XII’s current composition will work in the new world order coming. Time will tell.
 
Mora4Prez said:
how is it that we’re like the only school to win a national championship in basketball and reach a bowl game and still end up left at the table? I just don’t know what we do at this point. What else is there for us to prove?

If the ACC takes SMU, Stanford and Cal there’s legitimately no path left for a P5 invite until the 2030s.

Can someone explain to me what the heck we do?
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Winning doesn’t guarantee that we get in. Maybe try another tactic like bribery? Lol
 
Mora4Prez said:
how is it that we’re like the only school to win a national championship in basketball and reach a bowl game and still end up left at the table? I just don’t know what we do at this point. What else is there for us to prove?

If the ACC takes SMU, Stanford and Cal there’s legitimately no path left for a P5 invite until the 2030s.

Can someone explain to me what the heck we do?
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Reaching a bowl game, for the first time in years, after a 6-7 (losing) season? That's a participation trophy.

If UConn were consistently good in basketball, and it is, then it would be a worthy addition to any basketball-centric conference in the country, even the very best basketball-centric conference. And that's where you are, in the very best basketball-centric conference in the country. Rejoice!

If UConn aspires to join a more football-centric conference, then it probably needs to prove that it can be consistently good in football -- good enough, at least, to garner wider media interest. UConn hasn't done that.

Of course, there are other factors at play besides athletic prowess: geography, market, academics, fan-base, facilities, history, endowment, rivalries, research activity, public perception, and so on.
 
JeepCSC said:
Full shares comes just after the Big XII’s new contract is hashed out. I imagine those negotiations will decide the ACC’s outlook. I don’t think the current media model is sustainable and I’m skeptical the Big XII’s current composition will work in the new world order coming. Time will tell.
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Agreed, although you could say something similar about the ACC. In the new world order, in order to capture maximal value, the current conferences may have to dissolve and re-form in new structures and combinations. If not, the best properties in ACC and B12 will migrate to the conferences like B1G and SEC that are better placed, with reduced/discriminatory rates to reflect lower value -- but permanently reduced as opposed to the temporarily reduced rates that Oregon and Washington just accepted.
 
Mora4Prez said:
how is it that we’re like the only school to win a national championship in basketball and reach a bowl game and still end up left at the table? I just don’t know what we do at this point. What else is there for us to prove?

If the ACC takes SMU, Stanford and Cal there’s legitimately no path left for a P5 invite until the 2030s.

Can someone explain to me what the heck we do?
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UConn make two horrible hires with Red Pants and Edsall 2.0. I thought back then Edsall 2.0.was one of the worst hires that year when much better football coaches were available. Edsall just got fired from Maryland where his team looked totally out of the sync, and his offense and defense were just outdated. Still, we gave him a job and did not fire him after year 1 when it was clear he was over his head.

We picked the worst stretch of time to be bad in football. Also, we are a victim of bad timing. ACC took Louisville because FSU and Clemson had a hissy fit with the NC schools. B12 didn't take us because FOX and B1G decided to destroy the PAC-12.

Going forward, I think this indy football with other sports in a regional conference make the most sense. UConn just got a head start. I can see all the valuable big schools doing that since there is no way teams like OSU and USC want to subsidize schools like RU and Northwestern forever.

UConn needs to secure a good streaming contract combined with linear TV for football ASAP.
 
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WestCoastHusky said:
UConn make two horrible hires with Red Pants and Edsall 2.0. I thought back then Edsall 2.0.was one of the worst hires that year when much better football coaches were available. Edsall just got fired from Maryland where his team looked totally out of the sync, and his offense and defense were just outdated. Still, we gave him a job and did not fire him after year 1 when it was clear he was over his head.

We picked the worst stretch of time to be bad in football. Also, we are a victim of bad timing. ACC took Louisville because FSU and Clemson had a hissy fit with the NC schools. B12 didn't take us because FOX and B1G decided to destroy the PAC-12.

Going forward, I think this indy football with other sports in a regional conference make the most sense. UConn just got a head start. I can see all the valuable big schools doing that since there is no way teams like OSU and USC want to subsidize schools like RU and Northwestern forever.

UConn needs to secure a good streaming contract combined with linear TV for football ASAP.
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Diaco was a bad hire. Edsall was waving a human white flag. At most they should have sent him packing after year 2. There was nothing there.
 
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