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Doubtful. This thing has been in motion for a while. It solidified in May. It was UConn if Colorado agreed to return. Unlikely dissension among the universities.

The wrinkle was last Thursday when AU had a complete unanticipated reversal. The Big12 were surprised. They are not going to drop UConn for Arizona. Just getting a partner for Arizona to join UConn and Colorado. The announcements may not come in the original order but UConn will be included.
Hope so.
 
Wow, I didn't realize that. That's actually good news, if accurate. I don't think the vast majority of big 12 members have any idea about the nature and extent of our facilities, or the fact that we have a relatively "rural" campus. (At least as rural as anything can be within the New York/Boston metroplex.)
IF it is true, then I think it shows that we are not being used as a pawn.
 
Coach P and Diaco sucked, killed any momentum the program had. Hiring back the snake was the worst thing the school ever did though. The guy should've been banished after he quit on his players and left in his plane for his dream school. That looked like the school threw in the towel. It's amazing they were able to hire Mora after that. Dave Benedict has done a seriously good job turning things around.

At the time it seemed like it was Edsall or more Diaco. Not really in my worst case scenario did I expect Edsall to remarkably be worse. Just awful but in retrospect seemed like we were in between a rock in and a hard place.
 
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The Bill Self comments are a strong tell that the B12 is talking about 16 schools NOW. I don't know how they're going to get this over on the TV networks in this environment BUT, I would have to think that we're talking about Arizona as absolutely in. Self mentioned the BE.

Here's where it may become dicey for UConn. Oregon and Washington are a complete mystery at this point, but if Oregon is taking the B12 seriously, why wouldn't Washington? Both schools are in the same exact boat. If the B1G isn't looking to add soon, then both schools know what they're looking at. I can't fathom how Oregon would go to the B12 but not UW. That makes no sense.

I'm guessing it might be Arizona, UConn, Arizona St. are the additions.
 
IF it is true, then I think it shows that we are not being used as a pawn.
Which, is not it a guarantee that we will get a B12 slot, but is an indicator that we are being seriously considered.
 
Not a tweet, or even and "X", but here is Dodds take:
Big 12 to stop at 14, Connecticut in the mix but only after Pac 12 options
"The Big 12's preference, for now, is to add only one more school to get to 14 members in this round of conference realignment, sources close to the situation tell CBS Sports."

Definition of for now:

"While adding up to three more schools and expanding to 16 remains a possibility, the league intends to wait at least a few days to let the migration of Colorado sink in before considering next steps."

This still lines up with what @GoKU has told us last evening. Except he's implied the consideration has been completed. Seems Yormack has his associates as tight lipped as Hurley. And yes I know it's contradictory if GoKU is passing along information to us. Totally different scenario for an unknown anonymous individual to come to the Boneyard passing out positive things vs someone like Dodd. The uncertainty of who he is makes it possible he's trolling so it doesn't interfere with Yormack's preference for silence. I'm still positive he's sincere. If I'm wrong I can handle the worst case scenario. My balls are now as hardened as nuts from all the kicks to them.

Actually I just prefer to think things will be positive this time so I'm going to enjoy the entire process leading up to the event. Once upon a time I was a knock on wood, we are doooommed dude. Removed most of that from my tool box. This is my way!!!
 
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Coach P and Diaco sucked, killed any momentum the program had. Hiring back the snake was the worst thing the school ever did though. The guy should've been banished after he quit on his players and left in his plane for his dream school. That looked like the school threw in the towel. It's amazing they were able to hire Mora after that. Dave Benedict has done a seriously good job turning things around.
While PP and Diaco both ended up sucking that didn’t appear to be the case when they were hired. PP was about the same age at hire as Mora, had deep roots in CT high school football, and is the winningest coach at Syracuse going back to the 1920’s. Diaco was DC of the year at Notre Dame the year before he got on board.
RE 2.0 may have been a stop gap measure because the school had already begun exploring other options such as the BE.
I’m not sure how conference leaderships and other AD’s could conclude that was because UCONN gave up on football. That seems to be more the perception of fan bases.
The fact that those hires had some successes in other conferences points more towards the AAC as the primary cause for the dark years. Uninterested fan base and lower talented recruits driving it. Impacting hoops as well.
The decision makers must be able to at least recognize this and evaluate further.
 
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To be honest I thought with the withdrawal from the AAC and The football staff being hired on the basis of economics not competence, FSB football was going to die. We would either drop the sport or go back to FCS which made us a perfect fit for the Big East . I think that opinion was shared by most others in FSB community and is the reason for the UConn negativity .?The Mora hire and continued investment in the sport was out of left field. I would have loved to be in that room when that was pitched .
The believers that our program could not only survive but thrive as an Indy with no media deal at all , were extremely optimistic to be kind , but to a numbers guy like me , delusional. Our situation was like a guy trying to pay a $3000 a month mortgage making $50,000 a year ,long term you either forced to down size or get a better paying job.
 
. Once upon a time I was a knock on wood, we are doooommed dude. Removed most of that from my tool box. This is my way!!!
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(You can thank me later.);)
 
It would not surprise me if the B12 went to 20 teams by adding UW, O, Stanford, Cal, A, ASU, Utah. That gives them protection against getting poached by the B1G and the SEC in 6-7 years. It also gives them the PAC 12 network. Yormark sees strength in numbers.

The ACC could also offer UW, O, Stanford, Cal & ASU or SMU. These additions might get ND to join in football. They play 5 ACC games plus Stanford every year already.

Our strategy should be to make the ACC worry that the B12 is about to invite us and get them to make a preemptive invite to us instead of an ASU or an SMU. In 6-7 years for the B12 or for the ACC in 10-12 years, either conference can get poached if they don’t get better media deals.
 
The Bill Self comments are a strong tell that the B12 is talking about 16 schools NOW. I don't know how they're going to get this over on the TV networks in this environment BUT, I would have to think that we're talking about Arizona as absolutely in. Self mentioned the BE.

Here's where it may become dicey for UConn. Oregon and Washington are a complete mystery at this point, but if Oregon is taking the B12 seriously, why wouldn't Washington? Both schools are in the same exact boat. If the B1G isn't looking to add soon, then both schools know what they're looking at. I can't fathom how Oregon would go to the B12 but not UW. That makes no sense.

I'm guessing it might be Arizona, UConn, Arizona St. are the additions.
Oregon and Washington will only join the Big 12 now in a scenario where the Pac 12 lost so many schools that the conference loses their power 5 label and the auto bid to the new college football playoff. In theory, if the Pac loses good football teams, but keeps the autobid, then that could actually be good for the best Pac 12 football schools like Oregon and Utah. These schools also have the belief that if they don't get a BIG 10 invite, then they can get a Big 12 invite down the road. So it's extremely unlikely that any of them move now.

I also don't think Arizona wants to leave for the Big 12 without having another Pac 12 member join as a rival for them. UConn would be above Stanford, Cal, Oregon St, and Washington St in the order of most desirable schools for the Big 12. Utah, Washington, and Oregon will wait to see how things play out in realignment over the next 5 years. So that leaves Arizona and Arizona State as either a package deal or no deal IMO. Hence why the insiders at UConn are very confident that they will get an invite UNLESS something very unexpected happens like the Pac 12 gets informed that they are losing their power conference label and losing their auto bid to the college football playoff.
 
Coach P and Diaco sucked, killed any momentum the program had. Hiring back the snake was the worst thing the school ever did though. The guy should've been banished after he quit on his players and left in his plane for his dream school. That looked like the school threw in the towel. It's amazing they were able to hire Mora after that. Dave Benedict has done a seriously good job turning things around.
He "quit on the players?" Is that even possible after the season was over?
 
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BL,

I could well be wrong but I personally believe that it is entirely plausible that none of the parties involved foresaw the possibility of Colorado departing the P-12 at this time with the P-12 still without a media deal.
Sure, but until about two weeks ago everyone was expecting to have the Pac's deal announced by its media day.

Is it possible? Sure. But as I said, if that's actually what happened BY is not the superman everyone here is saying he is.
 
He "quit on the players?" Is that even possible after the season was over?
He pulled that cr@p with Todman about how he needed to be a man and needed to address his teammates on why he was leaving them. At the same time the snake already knew he was going to Maryland and didn't even fly back with his players and address them on why he was leaving them.

He had every right to take another job but he's a world class hypocrite and a coward.
 
It would not surprise me if the B12 went to 20 teams by adding UW, O, Stanford, Cal, A, ASU, Utah. That gives them protection against getting poached by the B1G and the SEC in 6-7 years. It also gives them the PAC 12 network. Yormark sees strength in numbers.

The ACC could also offer UW, O, Stanford, Cal & ASU or SMU. These additions might get ND to join in football. They play 5 ACC games plus Stanford every year already.

Our strategy should be to make the ACC worry that the B12 is about to invite us and get them to make a preemptive invite to us instead of an ASU or an SMU. In 6-7 years for the B12 or for the ACC in 10-12 years, either conference can get poached if they don’t get better media deals.
That is a stupid take. 20 makes it easier and if those bigger schools want to leave they will leave.
 
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Thanks. So basically, UConn will say yes to a $40M annual raise. Shocker lol.

I did love the bit about a UConn coach privately crapping on Chris Murphy’s take. That’s awesome.
Let's be clear. Calling for UConn to turn down a Big12 invite is calling for football to be shut down or relegated. And it's also hurting the long term viability of all other sports that wish to compete for championships. It's just financial reality. You gotta pay for stuff.
 
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It would not surprise me if the B12 went to 20 teams by adding UW, O, Stanford, Cal, A, ASU, Utah. That gives them protection against getting poached by the B1G and the SEC in 6-7 years. It also gives them the PAC 12 network. Yormark sees strength in numbers.

The ACC could also offer UW, O, Stanford, Cal & ASU or SMU. These additions might get ND to join in football. They play 5 ACC games plus Stanford every year already.

Our strategy should be to make the ACC worry that the B12 is about to invite us and get them to make a preemptive invite to us instead of an ASU or an SMU. In 6-7 years for the B12 or for the ACC in 10-12 years, either conference can get poached if they don’t get better media deals.
Why would the Big 12 take all these teams that aren't worth anything? I mean surely the Pac 12 would have compromised and said you know what we'll just play our games a couple hours early to get more exposure if that's what the TV guys want to save the conference.
 
He pulled that cr@p with Todman about how he needed to be a man and needed to address his teammates on why he was leaving them. At the same time the snake already knew he was going to Maryland and didn't even fly back with his players and address them on why he was leaving them.

He had every right to take another job but he's a world class hypocrite and a coward.
You didn't say he was a hypocrite and a coward, and I didn't disagree with those statements. You said he quit on his team. I am pointing out that it is simply wrong to claim a coach can quit on his team after a season is over. He doesn't have a team to quit on at that point until it gathers for the next season, and either players or coaches are free to leave before the next season starts.

I get it, we hate Edsall so we're allowed to attack him however we want, but saying a coach quit on players after a season ends is just silly.
 
Sure, but until about two weeks ago everyone was expecting to have the Pac's deal announced by its media day.

Is it possible? Sure. But as I said, if that's actually what happened BY is not the superman everyone here is saying he is.
Yes, and this is one set of circumstances (nearly August and no PAC media deal) that plausibly nobody foresaw, leading to a number of things needing to be discussed/determined before the next move. Adding to this equation is that evidently, as there is no media deal, a P-12 school can leave after the upcoming academic/athletic year (as Colorado did) and have no departure fees or penalties.
 
Hurley ended the UConn practice today by grabbing the microphone and thanking the fans before finishing with some like “and no I don’t know if we are joining the Big 12 or not” :D
Sly minx Hurley is.
 
I get it, we hate Edsall so we're allowed to attack him however we want, but saying a coach quit on players after a season ends is just silly.
Coaches aren't just hired seasonally. He just bailed on the team and went to Maryland instead of coming back and explaining his decision. Characterizing that as "quitting on the team" probably isn't all that unfair.

For what it's worth I'm not one of those people who think that Randi was brought back to scuttle the team. I think he genuinely regretted the way he left and his legacy. I think coaching for Connecticut was probably the highlight of his career. Unfortunately, in his comeback he undisputably quit on the team by announcing his resignation early on in the season.
 
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