Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[WestHartHusk]

I find the change in titles/wording today amusing…

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"Could face resistance" - that is a nothing statement if ever there was one.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Next article will say "won't" face resistance. Moving up on the scale.

"could have"
"won't"
"didn't"

^ this is how it goes.

 

[giddyup]

Sounds like posturing by some anti-UConn presidents lobbing bombs. The logic is dizzying. We don’t invest in football, but invest too much in football and that is a risk. What a crock of manure.

 

[Gburyhusky]

The Dodd article on CBS Sports this morning should put to rest any suggestion that UConn is "getting played" by the Big 12. The move may never happen, however the level of detail regarding the due diligence done by the Big 12 and its consultant on UConn and Gonzaga as discussed in the Dodd article suggests that the interest is real and more than a bargaining ploy.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Could like this post 100 times if i could. UConn Twitter has been pretty much an embarrassment.

Twitter in general is an embarrassment, not just UConn Twitter.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

I find the change in titles/wording today amusing…

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It's all just guesswork - there are literally a handful of people on the planet that really know about UConn and the Big12.

 

[jostar1]

 

[Urcea]

Louisville lmao

 

[LBird33]

The Dodd article on CBS Sports this morning should put to rest any suggestion that UConn is "getting played" by the Big 12. The move may never happen, however the level of detail regarding the due diligence done by the Big 12 and its consultant on UConn and Gonzaga as discussed in the Dodd article suggests that the interest is real and more than a bargaining ploy.

I agree. In the past any talk of UConn to a conference by him was negative based on his perception of things at the time. He’s clearly more neutral this time

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I find it difficult to believe that we outspent Kentucky

 

[king conn]

TV power

Sounds like this consulting firm is being heavily used and trusted, and also probably paid well.

Is any consideration being given to the fact that just the hardcore faction knows what FS1 is and where to find it? Probably not

 

[WestHartHusk]

TV power

Sounds like this consulting firm is being heavily used and trusted, and also probably paid well.

Is any consideration being given to the fact that just the hardcore faction knows what FS1 is and where to find it? Probably not

Typically you normalize to account for variables (good or bad). If they aren't, they are fools.

 

[uconnyankee]

The Dodd article on CBS Sports this morning should put to rest any suggestion that UConn is "getting played" by the Big 12. The move may never happen, however the level of detail regarding the due diligence done by the Big 12 and its consultant on UConn and Gonzaga as discussed in the Dodd article suggests that the interest is real and more than a bargaining ploy.

I feel like that article was outdated, even though it came out today. Yes, some added media info for Gonzaga with a metric defined by…. The media company representing Gonzaga.

Where is the UConn push? Where are all the nuggets bout UConn. Why are people in Kansas, OK, and TX providing the UConn narrative?

Don’t Warde Manuel this situation and let Gonzaga steal the show. UConn should be everywhere!

 

[jostar1]

I feel like that article was outdated, even though it came out today. Yes, some added media info for Gonzaga with a metric defined by…. The media company representing Gonzaga.

Where is the UConn push? Where are all the nuggets bout UConn. Why are people in Kansas, OK, and TX providing the UConn narrative?

Don’t Warde Manuel this situation and let Gonzaga steal the show. UConn should be everywhere!

Yes, I agree. The article talked a lot about Gonzaga because Gonzaga is using Navigate as their consulting company and the author talked to Navigate people. Who is UConn using?

 

[champs99and04]

I disagree. We are too valuable to ignore at this point:

• Highly academically ranked state flagship public university
• Record of significant investments in revenue sports
• Recent major investments in on-campus facilities
• Reasonably large fan base and state population (29th out of 50)
• East coast location and NYC market
• Most successful w and m hoops programs of the last 30 years - both programs trending up
• Recently nationally ranked programs in hoops, baseball, hockey, field hockey, track and field - all trending up
• Multiple national titles in soccer, hoops, and field hockey
• Football program that went to a bowl game with new name brand coach - trending up

These things are all true. Unfortunately, most of them are things that mean more to other conferences - like the Big Ten - than they would to the Big 12.

Again, UConn's biggest problem here is that the Big 12 is still - despite some positive momentum lately - a conference in survival mode. Perception matters a lot to any business in that category, and the perception is that UConn dilutes the football brand, doesn't fit culturally, and creates more travel headaches.

The Big 12 has no presence in NYC and likely never will. UConn joining may change that marginally, but without a marquee draw like OU or Texas to draw people to the city for potential games at Metlife or Yankee Stadium, the benefits will remain limited.

Minus OU and Texas, it's not a league blessed with a lot of brand appeal or valuable TV markets. Moving forward, any path towards remaining a viable power conference will include prioritizing its strengths and doubling down on them. That means strong football programs, passionate football fanbases, and strong recruiting grounds. Every school they've added to their league has checked at least two of those boxes. UConn offers a lot of potential, but doesn't really check any of them for now.

 

[CL82]

Like him or not, Tramel's reporting seems well sourced, and suggests to me that we are likely out of it.

Does it though? He's already finished his position that we are facing resistance to that we "might" face resistance. Trammels poisoning the well.

 

[Forte]

Like him or not, Tramel's reporting seems well sourced, and suggests to me that we are likely out of it.

Many on here are taking Tramel's comments as we are likely out. I don't understand how anyone draws that conclusion. Is it not fair to reason that having "concerns" is different from outright objecting? If I recall, the BIG12 leaders put their faith and strong support behind Yormark and his vision. Yormark has made pretty crystal clear his vision of having NYC ... and last I checked no programs outside of an iron-clad GOR come close to UCONN. Yormark has stated programs with football would be for ALL SPORTS. BIG12 members can have reservations or concerns while still moving forward in faith, can they not?

Can someone on here remind us how BIG12 voting works for membership? Is it an all-or-nothing or a certain % majority rule?

 

[businesslawyer]

I find it difficult to believe that we outspent Kentucky

To be fair, this only covers on the books payments. So neither legitimate NIL nor just the old style of handing over lunch bags full of cash would be included in this.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Many on here are taking Tramel's comments as we are likely out. I don't understand how anyone draws that conclusion. Is it not fair to reason that having "concerns" is different from outright objecting? If I recall, the BIG12 leaders put their faith and strong support behind Yormark and his vision. Yormark has made pretty crystal clear his vision of having NYC ... and last I checked no programs outside of an iron-clad GOR come close to UCONN. Yormark has stated programs with football would be for ALL SPORTS. BIG12 members can have reservations or concerns while still moving forward in faith, can they not?

Can someone on here remind us how BIG12 voting works for membership? Is it an all-or-nothing or a certain % majority rule?

At the end, all conferences are all or nothing. There is an informal vote before hand (see Texas A&M and Texas).

 

[noeynox]

To be fair, this only covers on the books payments. So neither legitimate NIL nor just the old style of handing over lunch bags full of cash would be included in this.

More than likely it involves paying Ollie.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

More than likely it involves paying Ollie.

I was thinking that a portion of the settlement had to be included. There likely is an additional item or two that aren't normal recurring expenditures.

 

[jostar1]

Can someone on here remind us how BIG12 voting works for membership? Is it an all-or-nothing or a certain % majority rule?

Back in 2016 when they had 10 teams, it was 8 out of 10, according to this story.

Big 12 passes on expansion for now. Here’s why

Well, that was much ado about nothing.

www.sbnation.com

 

[Forte]

Back in 2016 when they had 10 teams, it was 8 out of 10, according to this story.

Big 12 passes on expansion for now. Here’s why

Well, that was much ado about nothing.

www.sbnation.com

I wonder if OU and Texas would still have a vote and as of July 1 wouldn't the four new schools have a vote? ... not that any are fond of our program.

 

[jostar1]

I wonder if OU and Texas would still have a vote and as of July 1 wouldn't the four new schools have a vote? ... not that any are fond of our program.

I found this from 2021. There is also a PDF of the bylaws:

Under Section 1.5.2(b)(3) of the bylaws, a "Supermajority of Disinterested Directors" must vote in favor of the "Admission of a new Member . . . ." Under Section 1.5.2.2(f) states that a "Supermajority of Disinterested Directors" is 75% or more of all Disinterested Directors. A Director is not a Disinterested Director if he or she represents a school that has "Withdrawn" or is an "Interested Director" as to a particular issue before the Big 12 Board of Directors.

Whether OU and Texas get to vote: a look at the Big 12 bylaws

posted by Wadds

www.cougarboard.com

 

[Gburyhusky]

I found this from 2021. There is also a PDF of the bylaws:

Under Section 1.5.2(b)(3) of the bylaws, a "Supermajority of Disinterested Directors" must vote in favor of the "Admission of a new Member . . . ." Under Section 1.5.2.2(f) states that a "Supermajority of Disinterested Directors" is 75% or more of all Disinterested Directors. A Director is not a Disinterested Director if he or she represents a school that has "Withdrawn" or is an "Interested Director" as to a particular issue before the Big 12 Board of Directors.

Whether OU and Texas get to vote: a look at the Big 12 bylaws

posted by Wadds

www.cougarboard.com

Interesting, thanks for researching this.