Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[uchusky32]

Ehh...people outside of SC will watch Clemson when Clemson is good. When they're not they won't. Nebraska is arguably a bigger historical brand than Clemson and nobody outside of the corn fields is watching them right now.

This is why FOX/B1G cared about USC and UCLA. They bring ad buys in the second biggest market in the country.

This is also why Miami (city of Miami) and Ga Tech (Atlanta) may be more interesting to FOX/B1G (and therefore more likely to be protected by ESPN in the SEC) than Clemson and FSU. Though, frankly I'd guess none of these schools are that high on the list.

If FOX/B1G has a regret in expansion, it's Nebraska, not Rutgers. Rutgers did what it was supposed to do with NYC. Nebraska has been useless.

Market, and share thereof absolutely matters.

Ok, who choose to watches SC? In anything? This is becoming NFL. Brand will matter and Fox or ESPN will feed the Clemson Brand. Like they do Duke, KY and NC in basketball. Brand will become Market share. Like the Steelers and Cowboys. Don't have to get NFL package for those teams. They play national games.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Some interesting points...

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article263209858.html

 

[huskypantz]

Ok, who choose to watches SC? In anything? This is becoming NFL. Brand will matter and Fox or ESPN will feed the Clemson Brand. Like they do Duke, KY and NC in basketball. Brand will become Market share. Like the Steelers and Cowboys. Don't have to get NFL package for those teams. They play national games.

But Nebraska was once Clemson. These things are generally cyclical. Miami was iconic when I was a kid. They've been average at best but living off the rep for several decades now.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

https://amp.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/article263213118.html

Not a tweet, but interesting tidbit in this article:

247Sports’ Josh Pate reported on a Monday podcast that “there are conversations happening with folks at Clemson and folks in the Big Ten.”

“Everything that seemed impossible just a few years ago is now a possibility,” an industry source told McMurphy.

Clemson will not comment on the realignment reports, an athletics department spokesman

But Nebraska was once Clemson. These things are generally cyclical. Miami was iconic when I was a kid. They've been average at best but living off the rep for several decades now.

Nebraska was for quite a bit of time a lot more than what Clemson has been recently.

It never ceases to amaze me how short some memories are. Where was Alabama for the little more a decade and a half leading up to their hiring Saban? There are a handful of places where one quality hire is all it takes to become a near dynasty, regardless of how mediocre the recent track record has been, Nebraska is one of those places.

COVID restrictions aside, they've sold out every home game going back to when JFK was still alive. They made the mistake of bringing in an all style, no substance AD (Pederson, about 17 years ago) who thought it would be a good idea to overhaul the way they did everything. Once they moved on from him, they brought in a head coach who was building the program pretty well but ended up being almost as nutty as Diaco.

It may take another hire or two before they get the right head coach (hell, not quite 25 years ago Bama had to fire their new head coach before he ever coached a game for them because cops found him drunk in a motel room with a stripper) but their tradition and fan base would be sufficient to keep almost any successful coach. Few schools can do that.

 

[Ha Who]

Some interesting points...

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article263209858.html

Cry me a River

 

[metsfan2323]

If the ACC went to an unequal payment model as suggested in that news article (50 mil for elite football teams and 20 mil for lesser teams) I would think they would strongly consider adding UCONN, no doubt we would be worth at least 20 mil to that league.

 

[traitor71]

Nebraska was for quite a bit of time a lot more than what Clemson has been recently.

It never ceases to amaze me how short some memories are. Where was Alabama for the little more a decade and a half leading up to their hiring Saban? There are a handful of places where one quality hire is all it takes to become a near dynasty, regardless of how mediocre the recent track record has been, Nebraska is one of those places.

COVID restrictions aside, they've sold out every home game going back to when JFK was still alive. They made the mistake of bringing in an all style, no substance AD (Pederson, about 17 years ago) who thought it would be a good idea to overhaul the way they did everything. Once they moved on from him, they brought in a head coach who was building the program pretty well but ended up being almost as nutty as Diaco.

It may take another hire or two before they get the right head coach (hell, not quite 25 years ago Bama had to fire their new head coach before he ever coached a game for them because cops found him drunk in a motel room with a stripper) but their tradition and fan base would be sufficient to keep almost any successful coach. Few schools can do that.

If you have watched long enough, you have seen Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, LSU, Auburn, etc ALL be "dumpster fires" at some point. At certain places, if there is commitment, and now money, they're going to win.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

If the ACC went to an unequal payment model as suggested in that news article (50 mil for elite football teams and 20 mil for lesser teams) I would think they would strongly consider adding UCONN, no doubt we would be worth at least 20 mil to that league.

Agreed - I think any sort(s) of change and different pay models have to provide potential opportunities for UConn given our current lack of pull in football but excellent strengths in Olympic sports (both men and women). It would be nice to have to debate the pros and cons of the BE versus any sort of ACC deal.

 

[Stinger92860]

But Nebraska was once Clemson. These things are generally cyclical. Miami was iconic when I was a kid. They've been average at best but living off the rep for several decades now.

Yale was once Alabama, only better. Yale has won 27 college football national championships, including 26 in 38 years between 1872 and 1909.

 

[superjohn]

Nebraska was for quite a bit of time a lot more than what Clemson has been recently.

It never ceases to amaze me how short some memories are. Where was Alabama for the little more a decade and a half leading up to their hiring Saban? There are a handful of places where one quality hire is all it takes to become a near dynasty, regardless of how mediocre the recent track record has been, Nebraska is one of those places.

COVID restrictions aside, they've sold out every home game going back to when JFK was still alive. They made the mistake of bringing in an all style, no substance AD (Pederson, about 17 years ago) who thought it would be a good idea to overhaul the way they did everything. Once they moved on from him, they brought in a head coach who was building the program pretty well but ended up being almost as nutty as Diaco.

It may take another hire or two before they get the right head coach (hell, not quite 25 years ago Bama had to fire their new head coach before he ever coached a game for them because cops found him drunk in a motel room with a stripper) but their tradition and fan base would be sufficient to keep almost any successful coach. Few schools can do that.

Nebraska had the best college football team ever and they were an absolute juggernaut in the mid 90's.

 

[Billy Jack]

I don’t think Nebraska was a wasted addition. Too much tradition for their current downward shift to last forever. They are an anchor school when they return to their glory days. Bo Pelini had them winning 9 games a season and was fired because that wasn’t good enough. The Cornhuskers will find their way eventually.

Penn State
Nebraska
Maryland
Rutgers
USC
UCLA

Each of the six had a reason for being added that was centered on benefitting the conference in the next 100 years or more.

Why won’t it last? Look at Notre Dame. With all their tradition, they haven’t won a national championship in the last 34 years - and only 1 in the last 45 years. Same with UCLA basketball. No championships in the last 25 years, and only 1 in the last 47 years.

There is no guarantee that Nebraska will ever return to what they were. And the problem is that when they’re not very good, their market is tiny and doesn’t matter.

 

[Ha Who]

Yale was once Alabama, only better. Yale has won 27 college football national championships, including 26 in 38 years between 1872 and 1909.

Sort of like Notre Dame

 

[McLovin]

Why won’t it last? Look at Notre Dame. With all their tradition, they haven’t won a national championship in the last 34 years - and only 1 in the last 45 years. Same with UCLA basketball. No championships in the last 25 years, and only 1 in the last 47 years.

There is no guarantee that Nebraska will ever return to what they were. And the problem is that when they’re not very good, their market is tiny and doesn’t matter.

Despite lack of championships, Norte Dame and UCLA have 2 of the most valuable brands in college athletics.

Brands >>>> market size.

Which is why your logic on Nebraska is flawed.

Despite going 3-9 last year, they had more TV viewers for their games than Florida, Texas, LSU, Clemson and a number of other top power conference teams.

 

[Ha Who]

Despite lack of championships, Norte Dame and UCLA have 2 of the most valuable brands in college athletics.

Brands >>>> market size.

Which is why your logic on Nebraska is flawed.

Despite going 3-9 last year, they had more TV viewers for their games than Florida, Texas, LSU, Clemson and a number of other top power conference teams.

UCLA maybe. Notre Dame is the blackberry of college sports. The 20 something’s have moved on to apple

 

[huskymedic]

Should be pinned @ top of conference realignment forum:

How to evaluate a conference realignment rumor:

Not all reports are created equally

www.extrapointsmb.com

 

[McLovin]

Should be pinned @ top of conference realignment forum:

How to evaluate a conference realignment rumor:

Not all reports are created equally

www.extrapointsmb.com

Seeing how this guy didn't mention carwashes at all, it's pretty hard to take his article seriously....

 

[billybud]

FSU AD tweets....interesting timing...

 

[NowInStorrs]

Should be pinned @ top of conference realignment forum:

How to evaluate a conference realignment rumor:

Not all reports are created equally

www.extrapointsmb.com

Hmm. What about people who post on fan message boards and talk in third person?

 

[McLovin]

FSU AD tweets....interesting timing...

Didn't a bunch of knuckleheads on here just say that Nebraska would be the biggest regret for the BIG?

 

[huskymedic]

 

[billybud]

Didn't a bunch of knuckleheads on here just say that Nebraska would be the biggest regret for the BIG?

The value relates to your match ups and the Huskers are helped by playing in the B1G....if FSU plays in the SEC or B1G...their value climbs...

 

[McLovin]

The value relates to your match ups and the Huskers are helped by playing in the B1G....if FSU plays in the SEC or B1G...their value climbs...

No doubt on FSU.

But people were saying Nebraska is a "big regret", bigger than Rutgers... They play in the BIG West division (way worse match-ups than the BIG East that Rutgers plays in) yet are the 4th more valuable school in the conference, and most valuable in the west division despite being a dumpster fire on the field the past few years. In fact, they are more valuable than MSU who plays Michigan, OSU and Penn State every year.

 

[billybud]

Isn't there a law in Nebraska that if you were born in Nebraska, live in Nebraska, travelled through Nebraska, or eat corn...that you must be a Husker fan.

 

[CAtlantic]

 

[jostar1]

Should be pinned @ top of conference realignment forum:

How to evaluate a conference realignment rumor:

Not all reports are created equally

www.extrapointsmb.com

"So if you see an outlet that doesn't typically break news, or doesn't typically talk to the folks on that list, and you see them break a realignment story...you should be very, very, very skeptical".

Except for the guy who broke the UConn to the Big East story.