Would the A10 let in one of its signature programs that would keep them in 2-3 bid territory?
Hmmmmmm, let me think about that for about two nano…yes they would.
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Hmmmmmm, let me think about that for about two nano…yes they would.
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And the A10 is a natural landing place for Buffalo, especially as a partner with Temple.
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With respect to the Big East, Villanova woudl likely have an issue with Temple joining the conference.
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Seems like if Army/navy wanted to play UConn/umass/tmpl/buff every year, they could easily do so already. And yet they don’t.
I don’t see the big advantages to them
It would be good for UConn to have Navy, Temple, and Buffalo go independent for football.
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There is no place for Buffalo as an independent. They won't be allowed in the MAC anymore and the A10 isn't looking for another mouth to feed unless the misguided AAC board gets their way and steals basketball-only teams away.
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They could go to America East, but I don't see them giving up their MAC ties.
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Yes it would be great for UConn
If the AAC broke up
and Temple , Navy, USF, and even ECU became Indies.
Somehow I don’t think these teams care about UConn’s best interests.
If the AAC broke up
and Temple , Navy, USF, and even ECU became Indies.
Somehow I don’t think these teams care about UConn’s best interests.
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Don’t sleep on UMass joining the AAC
aside from Rice ( Houston) and apparently UAB
any additional all sports teams are wide open
I think BB onlies are also likely
IF the P5 forms their own governing body. Then BB becomes a bigger $$ driver. Hopefully Aresco understands the P6 is dead forever. If I were the MW I would be pitching to Gonzaga.
Also if I were the AAC I would be looking at min of 2 BB onlies. Long overdue.
UAB is decent all sport's. But more is needed to placate Memphis
Dayton had been blocked from moving by Cinn and Xavier but a spot is open and they’re a mid west team.
Why because the A10 contract is $4.5 million divided between 14 schools. Pretty crappy . WSU gets over a million and The AAC is cash rich and can offer incentives.
aside from Rice ( Houston) and apparently UAB
any additional all sports teams are wide open
I think BB onlies are also likely
IF the P5 forms their own governing body. Then BB becomes a bigger $$ driver. Hopefully Aresco understands the P6 is dead forever. If I were the MW I would be pitching to Gonzaga.
Also if I were the AAC I would be looking at min of 2 BB onlies. Long overdue.
UAB is decent all sport's. But more is needed to placate Memphis
Dayton had been blocked from moving by Cinn and Xavier but a spot is open and they’re a mid west team.
Why because the A10 contract is $4.5 million divided between 14 schools. Pretty crappy . WSU gets over a million and The AAC is cash rich and can offer incentives.
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Yes and no. It would make scheduling easier, but nobody wants to watch a schedule made up of eastern independents.
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UMass will die in the AAC. On the basketball side it's a total non-fit.
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I don't see Buffalo moving for any reason for a league which hasn't even set up and which is tenuous, given the MAC's longevity and consistency. Another reason Buffalo likes being in it is that the ultimate goal is to join the B1G, so UB wants to retain midwest visibility. Joining the B1G will never happen, but that's the only reason the school loses $40m annually and why it has built out a football facility in recent years. It's crazy--but it is what it is. Also, UB likes being a big fish in a small pond. UB is the state flagship for NY and also an AAU school, so its cohort is those B1G schools.
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Hmmm just as rumors of Notre Dame joining the conference surface? Interesting.
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Where are there rumors of ND joining the ACC? Are these rumors coming from a basement in WV?
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No those rumors our that West Virginia is deciding between offers to the Big Ten in the ACC.
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Too good for the SEC, eh?
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Academics too strong, though you know that the SEC would be interested.
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ND already gets a full, equal share of ACC Network profits, the same amount as the other 14 schools.
It doesn't have to join for football to get this money.
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Notre Dame receives 20% of one full share of the ACC's guaranteed rights fees. This is the bulk of the money that the conference distributes. The ACC and Notre Dame agreed to this split because about 80% of conference revenue comes from football.
Notre Dame does receive a full share of ACC Network money. This nets a couple to a few million extra for Notre Dame while the other 14 members receive a few hundred thousand less (than if the Irish received 20% of this too).
In sum, Notre Dame receives about 25% of what other members are paid by the conference.
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That is not how math works, unless you think ND basketball is worth $0.
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My comments aren't what I think. They are relaying what I read back in the day. About 25% of a full member's overall distribution share was a commonly cited estimate. (See old articles from David Teel and other ACC beat writers.)
I just looked up reporting on the the latest actual financials. Notre Dame actually did better than 25% in the most recently reported year (FY 2019-20). The 14 ACC full members received an average of $32.3 million (that includes ACC Network money). Notre Dame received $10.8 million from the conference (including ACC Network money).
10.8 divided by 32.3 = 33%
Notre Dame merits its full share of ACC Network revenue
Notre Dame and the ACC announced their limited partnership in September 2012. Since, the Fighting Irish have: Reached back-to-back NCAA men’s basketball tournament Elite Eights for the first …
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ACC distributed a record $497.2 million during 2019-20 financial year, an increase of $42 million
The ACC distributed a record $497.2 million for the 2019-20 financial year, the highest gross revenue ever reported for the league, according to tax documents released Friday.
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The main takeaway is, as I noted, in the the opening portion ("Absent Notre Dame, there might not well be an ACC Network. Its name was a driving force in ESPN exploring the project, a development that quickly led to the conference's 2013 grant of media rights, which bound members to the league through 2027") and closing portion ("Trust me, having the Irish in the league, and locked in by a grant of media rights through 2035-36, is worth a heck of a lot more to their ACC colleagues than $460,000 apiece, let alone $290,000"). The stupid hypothetical math exercise is irrelevant as the premise of the article is that ND, at a minimum, is carrying its weight and nobody is giving them anything.My comments aren't what I think. They are relaying what I read back in the day. About 25% of a full member's overall distribution share was a commonly cited estimate. (See old articles from David Teel and other ACC beat writers.)
I just looked up reporting on the the latest actual financials. Notre Dame actually did better than 25% in the most recently reported year (FY 2019-20). The 14 ACC full members received an average of $32.3 million (that includes ACC Network money). Notre Dame received $10.8 million from the conference (including ACC Network money).
10.8 divided by 32.3 = 33%
Notre Dame merits its full share of ACC Network revenue
Notre Dame and the ACC announced their limited partnership in September 2012. Since, the Fighting Irish have: Reached back-to-back NCAA men’s basketball tournament Elite Eights for the first …ACC distributed a record $497.2 million during 2019-20 financial year, an increase of $42 million
The ACC distributed a record $497.2 million for the 2019-20 financial year, the highest gross revenue ever reported for the league, according to tax documents released Friday.www.espn.com
I believe Notre Dame brings far more money/value into the ACC than they extract from it. So if that's your point, we agree. But that has little to do with my previous posts, which discussed the mechanics of how money is divided and distributed.
Several reporters (not just David Teel) cited an estimate of about 25% as Notre Dame expected portion of a typical share after the launch of ACCN. The percentage of the average full share that Notre Dame actually received during the last reported fiscal year (year one of ACCN) was 33%.
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From the first article you cited:My comments aren't what I think. They are relaying what I read back in the day. About 25% of a full member's overall distribution share was a commonly cited estimate. (See old articles from David Teel and other ACC beat writers.)
I just looked up reporting on the the latest actual financials. Notre Dame actually did better than 25% in the most recently reported year (FY 2019-20). The 14 ACC full members received an average of $32.3 million (that includes ACC Network money). Notre Dame received $10.8 million from the conference (including ACC Network money).
10.8 divided by 32.3 = 33%
Notre Dame merits its full share of ACC Network revenue
Notre Dame and the ACC announced their limited partnership in September 2012. Since, the Fighting Irish have: Reached back-to-back NCAA men’s basketball tournament Elite Eights for the first …ACC distributed a record $497.2 million during 2019-20 financial year, an increase of $42 million
The ACC distributed a record $497.2 million for the 2019-20 financial year, the highest gross revenue ever reported for the league, according to tax documents released Friday.
The conference distributed $373,162,899 to its 15 schools, about 55 percent of which came from television rights fees. So Notre Dame received $6.2 million, less than one-fourth of the $26.21 million the league's other members pocketed, on average.
From the second article
I suspect that 10.8 million distribution includes both their share of ACC media money in college playoff money. Go back and take a look at the quote from the article I posted
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