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businesslawyer said:
I know it might require an NCAA rule change, but who the heck is threatened if we form a G5 (or whatever number) Northeast football only conference that allows everyone to play other sports in their current league. UConn (without leaving the Big East), UMass (without leaving the A Ten), Temple (back in the A-Ten where), Army and Navy (staying in Patriot League) and Buffalo. Six teams, five conference games a year. That leaves us six games to play a FCS opponent and whomever else we can schedule. It also should leave Army and Navy enough flexibility to do whatever they want with their schedules.
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Biz, our posts crossed, but this is a good example of something that makes a heck of a lot more sense than worrying about Boise joining the AAC........
 
businesslawyer said:
I know it might require an NCAA rule change, but who the heck is threatened if we form a G5 (or whatever number) Northeast football only conference that allows everyone to play other sports in their current league. UConn (without leaving the Big East), UMass (without leaving the A Ten), Temple (back in the A-Ten where), Army and Navy (staying in Patriot League) and Buffalo. Six teams, five conference games a year. That leaves us six games to play a FCS opponent and whomever else we can schedule. It also should leave Army and Navy enough flexibility to do whatever they want with their schedules.
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It might as well just be a scheduling alliance. Conferences have admin costs and media deals. We will be better off as an Indy with our own TV deal. The CBS contract is a huge weapon for us. We have a lot of talent and if we bring in a good coach we could be off to the races.

I'm really excited to see what happens over the next 2-3 years. I have a good feeling about it. Randy, it turns out, still knew how to get good players. He just had no idea what to do with them anymore. With all of our youth and so many of our best players injured, our recent improvement has me thinking this ship is about to turn around. I hope AD Dave is all over player retention efforts right now.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Whatever happended to the proposal to build a Temple football stadium near their campus?
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The time to build a stadium is longer than the average duration of their head coaches. Not a good sign.
 
businesslawyer said:
I know it might require an NCAA rule change, but who the heck is threatened if we form a G5 (or whatever number) Northeast football only conference that allows everyone to play other sports in their current league. UConn (without leaving the Big East), UMass (without leaving the A Ten), Temple (back in the A-Ten where), Army and Navy (staying in Patriot League) and Buffalo. Six teams, five conference games a year. That leaves us six games to play a FCS opponent and whomever else we can schedule. It also should leave Army and Navy enough flexibility to do whatever they want with their schedules.
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Why would Army and Navy have any interest in this? Why would Buffalo? (since they’d have to give up the MAC).
 
Vowelguy said:
Why would Army and Navy have any interest in this? Why would Buffalo? (since they’d have to give up the MAC).
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For Buffalo, it would be a football upgrade and face them towards the eastern seaboard (which, by the way, is where most NY State residents are) and away from the midwest. For Army and Navy, it gives them the advantages of a conference with easy travel for 4 games besides each other and bowl alliances, but leaves them the rest of their schedule to play whomever they want wherever they want. If they want it, it will be because OOC games against non-crappy opponents are going to be harder and harder to schedule.
 
businesslawyer said:
For Buffalo, it would be a football upgrade and face them towards the eastern seaboard (which, by the way, is where most NY State residents are) and away from the midwest. For Army and Navy, it gives them the advantages of a conference with easy travel for 4 games besides each other and bowl alliances, but leaves them the rest of their schedule to play whomever they want wherever they want. If they want it, it will be because OOC games against non-crappy opponents are going to be harder and harder to schedule.
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I could see Army and Navy being for it, but I can't see Buffalo as they would probably have to give up the MAC for all other sports and there is not a natural landing spot for their other sports. And, would the A10 let Temple back in as they currently have 14 schools? If the Big East offered Temple a spot for their sports, Temple would probably jump at the opportunity, but I don't think that is going to happen.
 
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UConnJim said:
I could see Army and Navy being for it, but I can't see Buffalo as they would probably have to give up the MAC for all other sports and there is not a natural landing spot for their other sports. And, would the A10 let Temple back in as they currently have 14 schools? If the Big East offered Temple a spot for their sports, Temple would probably jump at the opportunity, but I don't think that is going to happen.
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Would the A10 let in one of its signature programs that would keep them in 2-3 bid territory?

Hmmmmmm, let me think about that for about two nano…yes they would.
 
UConnJim said:
I could see Army and Navy being for it, but I can't see Buffalo as they would probably have to give up the MAC for all other sports and there is not a natural landing spot for their other sports. And, would the A10 let Temple back in as they currently have 14 schools? If the Big East offered Temple a spot for their sports, Temple would probably jump at the opportunity, but I don't think that is going to happen.
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With respect to the Big East, Villanova woudl likely have an issue with Temple joining the conference.
 
businesslawyer said:
For Buffalo, it would be a football upgrade and face them towards the eastern seaboard (which, by the way, is where most NY State residents are) and away from the midwest. For Army and Navy, it gives them the advantages of a conference with easy travel for 4 games besides each other and bowl alliances, but leaves them the rest of their schedule to play whomever they want wherever they want. If they want it, it will be because OOC games against non-crappy opponents are going to be harder and harder to schedule.
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Seems like if Army/navy wanted to play UConn/umass/tmpl/buff every year, they could easily do so already. And yet they don’t.
I don’t see the big advantages to them
 
Vowelguy said:
Seems like if Army/navy wanted to play UConn/umass/tmpl/buff every year, they could easily do so already. And yet they don’t.
I don’t see the big advantages to them
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It would be good for UConn to have Navy, Temple, and Buffalo go independent for football.
 
There is no place for Buffalo as an independent. They won't be allowed in the MAC anymore and the A10 isn't looking for another mouth to feed unless the misguided AAC board gets their way and steals basketball-only teams away.
 
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UC1995 said:
There is no place for Buffalo as an independent. They won't be allowed in the MAC anymore and the A10 isn't looking for another mouth to feed unless the misguided AAC board gets their way and steals basketball-only teams away.
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They could go to America East, but I don't see them giving up their MAC ties.
 
Yes it would be great for UConn
If the AAC broke up
and Temple , Navy, USF, and even ECU became Indies.
Somehow I don’t think these teams care about UConn’s best interests.
 
Don’t sleep on UMass joining the AAC
aside from Rice ( Houston) and apparently UAB
any additional all sports teams are wide open
I think BB onlies are also likely
IF the P5 forms their own governing body. Then BB becomes a bigger $$ driver. Hopefully Aresco understands the P6 is dead forever. If I were the MW I would be pitching to Gonzaga.
Also if I were the AAC I would be looking at min of 2 BB onlies. Long overdue.
UAB is decent all sport's. But more is needed to placate Memphis
Dayton had been blocked from moving by Cinn and Xavier but a spot is open and they’re a mid west team.
Why because the A10 contract is $4.5 million divided between 14 schools. Pretty crappy . WSU gets over a million and The AAC is cash rich and can offer incentives.
 
PaulMec said:
It would be good for UConn to have Navy, Temple, and Buffalo go independent for football.
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Yes and no. It would make scheduling easier, but nobody wants to watch a schedule made up of eastern independents.
 
AZHuskiePop said:
Don’t sleep on UMass joining the AAC
aside from Rice ( Houston) and apparently UAB
any additional all sports teams are wide open
I think BB onlies are also likely
IF the P5 forms their own governing body. Then BB becomes a bigger $$ driver. Hopefully Aresco understands the P6 is dead forever. If I were the MW I would be pitching to Gonzaga.
Also if I were the AAC I would be looking at min of 2 BB onlies. Long overdue.
UAB is decent all sport's. But more is needed to placate Memphis
Dayton had been blocked from moving by Cinn and Xavier but a spot is open and they’re a mid west team.
Why because the A10 contract is $4.5 million divided between 14 schools. Pretty crappy . WSU gets over a million and The AAC is cash rich and can offer incentives.
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UMass will die in the AAC. On the basketball side it's a total non-fit.
 
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I don't see Buffalo moving for any reason for a league which hasn't even set up and which is tenuous, given the MAC's longevity and consistency. Another reason Buffalo likes being in it is that the ultimate goal is to join the B1G, so UB wants to retain midwest visibility. Joining the B1G will never happen, but that's the only reason the school loses $40m annually and why it has built out a football facility in recent years. It's crazy--but it is what it is. Also, UB likes being a big fish in a small pond. UB is the state flagship for NY and also an AAU school, so its cohort is those B1G schools.
 
CTBballfan243 said:
Where are there rumors of ND joining the ACC? Are these rumors coming from a basement in WV?
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No those rumors our that West Virginia is deciding between offers to the Big Ten in the ACC.
 
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CL82 said:
Hmmm just as rumors of Notre Dame joining the conference surface? Interesting.
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ND already gets a full, equal share of ACC Network profits, the same amount as the other 14 schools.

It doesn't have to join for football to get this money.
 
TerryD said:
ND already gets a full, equal share of ACC Network profits, the same amount as the other 14 schools.

It doesn't have to join for football to get this money.
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I believe they get a partial share:

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CL82 said:
I believe they get a partial share:

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Notre Dame receives 20% of one full share of the ACC's guaranteed rights fees. This is the bulk of the money that the conference distributes. The ACC and Notre Dame agreed to this split because about 80% of conference revenue comes from football.

Notre Dame does receive a full share of ACC Network money. This nets a couple to a few million extra for Notre Dame while the other 14 members receive a few hundred thousand less (than if the Irish received 20% of this too).

In sum, Notre Dame receives about 25% of what other members are paid by the conference.
 
Eavesdrop said:
Notre Dame receives 20% of one full share of the ACC's guaranteed rights fees. This is the bulk of the money that the conference distributes. The ACC and Notre Dame agreed to this split because about 80% of conference revenue comes from football.

Notre Dame does receive a full share of ACC Network money. This nets a couple to a few million extra for Notre Dame while the other 14 members receive a few hundred thousand less (than if the Irish received 20% of this too).

In sum, Notre Dame receives about 25% of what other members are paid by the conference.
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That is not how math works, unless you think ND basketball is worth $0.
 
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