Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[CL82]

TV money is absolutely not the #1 factor, as has been shown with ESPN's failed Longhorn Network and their subsequent rejection of a Big 12 Network. The cavalier attitude some have here that we're stone cold getting in over Houston is baffling.

This is all about TV money, but the Big 12 contract gives them that regardless of who is chosen.

I'm not sure that you can do look at it as a list of candidates in order of preference. I think that the better analysis is combinations that have 8 votes. Looking at that way, Houston doesn't happen as 1 of two, but has a great shot as one of four. UConn has weak chances as one of two (UConn, UC or UConn, BYU) but has a decent shot as one of four (UConn, UC, BYU, Houston.)

 

[Fishy]

If I had to take a guess, the currents are against BYU and against Houston and there just isn't enough current for UConn/Cincy/whoever.

My hunch is that they come out with a statement in October saying that they're going to table things for a year and then just never get back to it.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

If I had to take a guess, the currents are against BYU and against Houston and there just isn't enough current for UConn/Cincy/whoever.

My hunch is that they come out with a statement in October saying that they're going to table things for a year and then just never get back to it.

You and Tramel agree:

 

[uc1974]

Then they're gonna look like total fools. Oh wait.....

 

[alexd]

Go East like Fox wants!!!
Just go with UC and UConn and be done with it.

 

[hamster]

Gentlemen, prepare the groinal protection device.

 

[jostar1]

Tom GroeschenVerified account ‏@TomGroeschen 2h2 hours ago
Tuberville on #Big12 implications of #UC-Houston game, says one game will not turn it either way: 'I'm sure those decisions are made.'

 

[UConnDan97]

TV money is absolutely not the #1 factor, as has been shown with ESPN's failed Longhorn Network and their subsequent rejection of a Big 12 Network. The cavalier attitude some have here that we're stone cold getting in over Houston is baffling.

If it wasn't about tv money, then the announcement for Big12 expansion would not have taken place 2 days after the ACC network deal got done. Don't feel baffled...

 

[Adios]

Screw the Big 12. Let's add ODU and NJIT and we'll own the Bos-Wash megalopolis.

 

[CL82]

I'd take no expansion and be grateful that we aren't left behind in a decimated conference yet again, but I can't see the B12 presidents turning down the cash. In my view, absent concrete assurances for more cash in the future, how, as a college president, do you turn your back on an annuity worth $10 million (+) annually.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

If it wasn't about tv money, then the announcement for Big12 expansion would not have taken place 2 days after the ACC network deal got done. Don't feel baffled...

If it was about TV money, plans for a Big 12 Network wouldn't have been nixed.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

You and Tramel agree:

Tramel is good when he references sources. He is not as good when he thinks about expansion as an Oklahoma sportswriter.

 

[CL82]

If it was about TV money, plans for a Big 12 Network wouldn't have been nixed.

I think Dan is referring to the anti-dilution clause that automatically raises the TV money the B12 receives if it adds new teams. It has nothing to do with the network.

 

[UConnDan97]

If it was about TV money, plans for a Big 12 Network wouldn't have been nixed.

Well, feel free to let me know what you think the driving factors are if it is not ultimately tv money. They already have their exemption for not needing a 12-team conference championship game, so they aren't expanding for that. They aren't poaching teams from leagues that threaten their survival, so they aren't expanding for that.

I understand that they will have a "baked in" increase for a 2-team expansion, regardless of which 2 teams they choose (I believe that's correct), but it will MOST CERTAINLY matter who they select as it pertains to their next contract. You can bank on that...

 

[CL82]

Well, feel free to let me know what you think the driving factors are if it is not ultimately tv money. They already have their exemption for not needing a 12-team conference championship game, so they aren't expanding for that. They aren't poaching teams from leagues that threaten their survival, so they aren't expanding for that.

I understand that they will have a "baked in" increase for a 2-team expansion, regardless of which 2 teams they choose (I believe that's correct), but it will MOST CERTAINLY matter who they select as it pertains to their next contract. You can bank on that...

Yep, except it is for up to four teams.

 

[Exit 4]

If I had to take a guess, the currents are against BYU and against Houston and there just isn't enough current for UConn/Cincy/whoever.

My hunch is that they come out with a statement in October saying that they're going to table things for a year and then just never get back to it.

I definitely can see an impasse coming....which I think will result in a pause which could run 2 weeks or as long as nearly a year, and then finally an agreement is made and four teams are added. This will provide a little time for the B12 cornerstone schools to shop the other conferences for an exit in 2024 and if they don't get a warm feeling, I would expect resistance to the four school add to finally crumble. The B12 doesn't have a very good future as a 10 school conference centered in one super state with four small rural states.

 

[TRest]

I definitely can see an impasse coming....which I think will result in a pause which could run 2 weeks or as long as nearly a year, and then finally an agreement is made and four teams are added. This will provide a little time for the B12 cornerstone schools to shop the other conferences for an exit in 2024 and if they don't get a warm feeling, I would expect resistance to the four school add to finally crumble. The B12 doesn't have a very good future as a 10 school conference centered in one super state with four small rural states.

Assuming the B12 has no shot at the playoff this year, that will cost them some additional $, correct? If so, why not steal the networks's expansion $ for the down years? Or continue to fall further behind in the money race.

 

[Chuck]

I definitely can see an impasse coming....which I think will result in a pause which could run 2 weeks or as long as nearly a year, and then finally an agreement is made and four teams are added. This will provide a little time for the B12 cornerstone schools to shop the other conferences for an exit in 2024 and if they don't get a warm feeling, I would expect resistance to the four school add to finally crumble. The B12 doesn't have a very good future as a 10 school conference centered in one super state with four small rural states.

That's why we have to keep working. Everyone associated with UConn and realignment must work any contacts they have. This goes for schools in our corner and those that aren't. If we can't be Miami (the school that was desired by everyone in the ACC), then we need to be Pitt (the school that didn't upset anyone in the ACC). If BYU, or Memphis, or Houston, or even Cincy get UConn'd (where someone lines up "no" votes because of a personal vendetta (Miami) or fear of being inferior (BC)), then we need to be the easy choice.

This should include everyone. Not just athletic contacts. If the head of one of our academic departments went to school with the head of a Big 12 department, get them involved. I'm not talking about begging or pestering. Just make sure everyone that could possibly be a proponent knows who we are and why they can't live without us.

 

[businesslawyer]

Well, feel free to let me know what you think the driving factors are if it is not ultimately tv money. They already have their exemption for not needing a 12-team conference championship game, so they aren't expanding for that. They aren't poaching teams from leagues that threaten their survival, so they aren't expanding for that.

I understand that they will have a "baked in" increase for a 2-team expansion, regardless of which 2 teams they choose (I believe that's correct), but it will MOST CERTAINLY matter who they select as it pertains to their next contract. You can bank on that...

I would just say I have 1000% confidence in anything said by someone who uses block caps and italics in the same sentence. If ever someone had to be right ....

 

[dr.holiday]

I was told Houston doesn't have the votes. I guess we will find out soon enough.

 

[UConnDan97]

I would just say I have 1000% confidence in anything said by someone who uses block caps and italics in the same sentence. If ever someone had to be right ....

As I'm sure you are aware, the combination of block caps and italics makes the statement legally binding...

 

[Slasher]

I was told Houston doesn't have the votes. I guess we will find out soon enough.

I've said all along I think they expand by 2 with UConn and Cincy. I think that's becoming more and more likely when teams like Houston and BYU have issues. They're going to expand, and I think they were committed to four. But if two of your four are UCF/Tulane/USF maybe you finally have some sense and just take the right two. The two that have played and succeeded in a power conference in the past.

 

[NutmegState]

I was told Houston doesn't have the votes. I guess we will find out soon enough.

Does UConn have the votes?

 

[mavblues]

As I'm sure you are aware, the combination of block caps and italics makes the statement legally binding...

I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but every time you use caps, italics, or bold font it uses up more bandwidth and drives @Fishy 's costs up.

That means more ads on the BY.

Don't get me started on emojis...

 

[CL82]

I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but every time you use caps, italics, or bold font it uses up more bandwidth and drives @Fishy 's costs up.

That means more ads on the BY.

Don't get me started on emojis...

WOW! We wouldn't want to that!

(Sorry Tom)