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Vowelguy said:
Yeah it'd be better to take a known quantity that stinks and will always stink like Rice.
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Rice is a top 20 school: basically an Ivy. And they are in Houston. Navy leaves the conference if a 2nd Texas school isn't added. The other four FBS Texas schools not in the P5 or AAC do not have as much of a brand, and none of them are very good at football either.
 
baggerbob said:
Mountain West will lose Boise St, San Diego St, probably UNLV, in 2 years when Texas, and Oklahoma leave. Big 12 will pick up those 3 and probably 1 other.
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I believe Memphis has to be in the mix.
 
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i like independence for football better than AAC for football only, especially now that more of the bigger brands have bolted the AAC
 
shizzle787 said:
Rice is a top 20 school: basically an Ivy. And they are in Houston. Navy leaves the conference if a 2nd Texas school isn't added. The other four FBS Texas schools not in the P5 or AAC do not have as much of a brand, and none of them are very good at football either.
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'In 2010, it was ranked first in the world in materials science research by Times Higher Education'
materials science excellence is a distinguishing technological difference between us, and the rest of the world, and it ain't even close. cf, composites used in a p and w turbofan blade, stealth coatings, and, ummm, marshmellow fluff.
six plus billion in their endowment, while being 'the second-smallest school, measured by undergraduate enrollment, competing in NCAA Division I FBS football.'
they played the super bowl here,
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one of the absolute best values in higher education on planet earth, and, it's in Houston, the fourth largest city in the USA, on the road to becoming gigunda in the decades ahead.
and, on another note, doesn't University of Wyoming play in the MWC, which some here think might be on a G5 path? it would seem, as currently constituted, that it has already passed.......the AAC.
 
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huskymedic said:
www.inquirer.com

After the latest wave of conference realignment, is there a good league left for Temple? | Mike Jensen

The Owls, as usual, are in a tough box, dreaming of a Power 5 future, with no apparent reciprocal interest.
www.inquirer.com www.inquirer.com
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That reads in line with what I expect. Temple is going to dig their heels in that the AAC is OK but the author gives away the secret: their fanbase also doesn't care when UCF or Cincy comes to town.

How is that going to change when it's UAB or Marshall? The marquee home will be SMU. Yikes.

The basketball program is already on life support in a now 1-2 bid league and you're asking an alum with no head coaching experience to save it. 2021 class of 3 kids ranked behind GW and no 2022 commits.

If football can't get back to 7-8 wins consistently in 2-3 years their fans will want out.
 
Storrs South said:
That reads in line with what I expect. Temple is going to dig their heels in that the AAC is OK but the author gives away the secret: their fanbase also doesn't care when UCF or Cincy comes to town.

How is that going to change when it's UAB or Marshall? The marquee home will be SMU. Yikes.
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… and I think their Lincoln Financial lease is creeping towards $3m/year.
 
Storrs South said:
That reads in line with what I expect. Temple is going to dig their heels in that the AAC is OK but the author gives away the secret: their fanbase also doesn't care when UCF or Cincy comes to town.

How is that going to change when it's UAB or Marshall? The marquee home will be SMU. Yikes.

The basketball program is already on life support in a now 1-2 bid league and you're asking an alum with no head coaching experience to save it. 2021 class of 3 kids ranked behind GW and no 2022 commits.

If football can't get back to 7-8 wins consistently in 2-3 years their fans will want out.
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Owls about to get a fresh set of eyes/perspective. Big background.

www.hookem.com

Texas associate athletic director Arthur Johnson to be named Temple's AD

Texas executive senior associate athletic director Arthur Johnson will be named the athletic director at Temple University after spending 11 years at UT.
www.hookem.com
 
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I know it might require an NCAA rule change, but who the heck is threatened if we form a G5 (or whatever number) Northeast football only conference that allows everyone to play other sports in their current league. UConn (without leaving the Big East), UMass (without leaving the A Ten), Temple (back in the A-Ten where), Army and Navy (staying in Patriot League) and Buffalo. Six teams, five conference games a year. That leaves us six games to play a FCS opponent and whomever else we can schedule. It also should leave Army and Navy enough flexibility to do whatever they want with their schedules.
 
Outside the P5 and I think soon to be P4, these conferences don't make sense. The AAC wants to stretch across most of the country with programs that have little if any national recognition. Media revenues will continue to be minimal while driving up operating costs.

There's a model that works for this, but it's based on regional interests and needs to cater to that. My feeling is that a chunk of the P5 are going to fall into this as well once power programs breakaway from the NCAA. I think UCONN is in as good a place as we could reasonably be with the BE and football independence. Over the next 5-10 years this thing will sugar out and look a lot different than it does now. I doubt the AAC even exists at that point.
 
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businesslawyer said:
I know it might require an NCAA rule change, but who the heck is threatened if we form a G5 (or whatever number) Northeast football only conference that allows everyone to play other sports in their current league. UConn (without leaving the Big East), UMass (without leaving the A Ten), Temple (back in the A-Ten where), Army and Navy (staying in Patriot League) and Buffalo. Six teams, five conference games a year. That leaves us six games to play a FCS opponent and whomever else we can schedule. It also should leave Army and Navy enough flexibility to do whatever they want with their schedules.
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Biz, our posts crossed, but this is a good example of something that makes a heck of a lot more sense than worrying about Boise joining the AAC........
 
businesslawyer said:
I know it might require an NCAA rule change, but who the heck is threatened if we form a G5 (or whatever number) Northeast football only conference that allows everyone to play other sports in their current league. UConn (without leaving the Big East), UMass (without leaving the A Ten), Temple (back in the A-Ten where), Army and Navy (staying in Patriot League) and Buffalo. Six teams, five conference games a year. That leaves us six games to play a FCS opponent and whomever else we can schedule. It also should leave Army and Navy enough flexibility to do whatever they want with their schedules.
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It might as well just be a scheduling alliance. Conferences have admin costs and media deals. We will be better off as an Indy with our own TV deal. The CBS contract is a huge weapon for us. We have a lot of talent and if we bring in a good coach we could be off to the races.

I'm really excited to see what happens over the next 2-3 years. I have a good feeling about it. Randy, it turns out, still knew how to get good players. He just had no idea what to do with them anymore. With all of our youth and so many of our best players injured, our recent improvement has me thinking this ship is about to turn around. I hope AD Dave is all over player retention efforts right now.
 
Mr. Conehead said:
Whatever happended to the proposal to build a Temple football stadium near their campus?
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The time to build a stadium is longer than the average duration of their head coaches. Not a good sign.
 
businesslawyer said:
I know it might require an NCAA rule change, but who the heck is threatened if we form a G5 (or whatever number) Northeast football only conference that allows everyone to play other sports in their current league. UConn (without leaving the Big East), UMass (without leaving the A Ten), Temple (back in the A-Ten where), Army and Navy (staying in Patriot League) and Buffalo. Six teams, five conference games a year. That leaves us six games to play a FCS opponent and whomever else we can schedule. It also should leave Army and Navy enough flexibility to do whatever they want with their schedules.
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Why would Army and Navy have any interest in this? Why would Buffalo? (since they’d have to give up the MAC).
 
Vowelguy said:
Why would Army and Navy have any interest in this? Why would Buffalo? (since they’d have to give up the MAC).
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For Buffalo, it would be a football upgrade and face them towards the eastern seaboard (which, by the way, is where most NY State residents are) and away from the midwest. For Army and Navy, it gives them the advantages of a conference with easy travel for 4 games besides each other and bowl alliances, but leaves them the rest of their schedule to play whomever they want wherever they want. If they want it, it will be because OOC games against non-crappy opponents are going to be harder and harder to schedule.
 
businesslawyer said:
For Buffalo, it would be a football upgrade and face them towards the eastern seaboard (which, by the way, is where most NY State residents are) and away from the midwest. For Army and Navy, it gives them the advantages of a conference with easy travel for 4 games besides each other and bowl alliances, but leaves them the rest of their schedule to play whomever they want wherever they want. If they want it, it will be because OOC games against non-crappy opponents are going to be harder and harder to schedule.
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I could see Army and Navy being for it, but I can't see Buffalo as they would probably have to give up the MAC for all other sports and there is not a natural landing spot for their other sports. And, would the A10 let Temple back in as they currently have 14 schools? If the Big East offered Temple a spot for their sports, Temple would probably jump at the opportunity, but I don't think that is going to happen.
 
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