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Brian Davis ‏@BDavisAAS · 16h16 hours ago
Statement from Greg Fenves, Mike Perrin on Big 12 vote: "This vote opens up a lot of possibilities that we need to look at closely." 1/2

Brian Davis ‏@BDavisAAS · 16h16 hours ago
More Fenves/Perrin: "We're looking forward to speaking with Commissioner Bowlsby and the other Big 12 schools about it." 2/2

Note: Greg Fenves is the President of UT. Perrin is the AD.
 
Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 13h13 hours ago
To be honest, no one has done more to foster the image of instability in the Big 12 the past year more than David Boren.

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 13h13 hours ago
@texdanr Every time the president of OU stands up and postures, it starts 10 rumors the conference is about to implode. Why do it?

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 13h13 hours ago
@HoustonCentrikS Not UT at all. New administration not a factor in Big 12 yet. Boren just undercut everything Bowlsby accomplished today.

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 12h12 hours ago
@DezyHume So he undercuts the commissioner and tries to steal a headline on a day when the Big 12 does something right?

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 12h12 hours ago
@DezyHume It's timing and perception. Why say it now when the national storyline is the Big 12 joining rest of power 5 with title game?

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 11h11 hours ago
@TexasRoundball Essentially, there's a power vacuum in Big 12 and it looks like Boren is determined to fill it.

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 11h11 hours ago
@TexasRoundball Also, my sources tell me its 3 for expansion, 3 in the middle and 4 against in Big 12. That's way more than just Texas.

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 11h11 hours ago
@DezyHume OU wants expansion. WVU wants expansion for a travel partner. Third possibility K-State. Snyder says he likes divisions.

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 11h11 hours ago
@DezyHume Baylor apparently on the fence, I'm told. Peter Thamel of SI reports the same thing in this breakdown.
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@ChuckCarltonDMN
Reporting on all things Big 12 for the Dallas Morning News
 
jostar1 said:
Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 13h13 hours ago
To be honest, no one has done more to foster the image of instability in the Big 12 the past year more than David Boren.

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 13h13 hours ago
@texdanr Every time the president of OU stands up and postures, it starts 10 rumors the conference is about to implode. Why do it?

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 13h13 hours ago
@HoustonCentrikS Not UT at all. New administration not a factor in Big 12 yet. Boren just undercut everything Bowlsby accomplished today.

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 12h12 hours ago
@DezyHume So he undercuts the commissioner and tries to steal a headline on a day when the Big 12 does something right?

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 12h12 hours ago
@DezyHume It's timing and perception. Why say it now when the national storyline is the Big 12 joining rest of power 5 with title game?

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 11h11 hours ago
@TexasRoundball Essentially, there's a power vacuum in Big 12 and it looks like Boren is determined to fill it.

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 11h11 hours ago
@TexasRoundball Also, my sources tell me its 3 for expansion, 3 in the middle and 4 against in Big 12. That's way more than just Texas.

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 11h11 hours ago
@DezyHume OU wants expansion. WVU wants expansion for a travel partner. Third possibility K-State. Snyder says he likes divisions.

Chuck Carlton ‏@ChuckCarltonDMN · 11h11 hours ago
@DezyHume Baylor apparently on the fence, I'm told. Peter Thamel of SI reports the same thing in this breakdown.
http://Post original url/1l8oGoo



@ChuckCarltonDMN
Reporting on all things Big 12 for the Dallas Morning News
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This guy is not a mouthpiece for Texas? Right. Oklahoma and Texas are having a very public pissing match right now. I don't know if it will help us, although I don't see how things could be any worse.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
This guy is not a mouthpiece for Texas? Right. Oklahoma and Texas are having a very public pissing match right now. I don't know if it will help us, although I don't see how things could be any worse.
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Surprised you wanted to bring this up since you were proven completely wrong the last time you went out of your way to criticize him.

He's tweeting his opinion, which happens to be is super critical of OU. Doesn't make him a mouthiece for UT.
 
NYUConn said:
Surprised you wanted to bring this up since you were proven completely wrong the last time you went out of your way to criticize him.

He's tweeting his opinion, which happens to be is super critical of OU. Doesn't make him a mouthiece for UT.
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I don't know, I mean that does seem like a pro-UT and anti-OU position to me. He's wondering why Boren is making a stink. It's because Boren realizes his school is being marginalized in this by Texas. Clearly yesterday was NOT a god result for Oklahoma. They clearly WANT expansion. So Carlton is asking why Boren is making a big stink today, when it is pretty clear to everyone what Boren's position is.

In other words, Carlton is being willfully ignorant of OU's interests.
 
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upstater said:
I don't know, I mean that does seem like a pro-UT and anti-OU position to me. He's wondering why Boren is making a stink. It's because Boren realizes his school is being marginalized in this by Texas. Clearly yesterday was NOT a god result for Oklahoma. They clearly WANT expansion. So Carlton is asking why Boren is making a big stink today, when it is pretty clear to everyone what Boren's position is.

In other words, Carlton is being willfully ignorant of OU's interests.
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Just because he doesn't advocate OU's interests doesn't mean he's pro UT.

We support Boren and OU because it's our best chance to get a P5 invite, but step back and take a look at it from someone who is covering the Big 12 as a league, and it's not unreasonable to see their actions as destabilizing the league.

That said, you could argue that UT and the LHN fired the first shots towards destabilization years earlier, but in its current state with members, OU is the one that is rocking the boat.
 
NYUConn said:
Surprised you wanted to bring this up since you were proven completely wrong the last time you went out of your way to criticize him.

He's tweeting his opinion, which happens to be is super critical of OU. Doesn't make him a mouthiece for UT.
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Maybe not a "mouthpiece", but a big time homer, with a very Texas biased view of what is going on. It doesn't matter that he's in Dallas rather than Austin any more that it matters that UConn isn't in New Haven when a writer there writes about UConn. He's using his position in a pro-Texas, anti-OU manner. It's obvious why.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Maybe not a "mouthpiece", but a big time homer, with a very Texas biased view of what is going on. It doesn't matter that he's in Dallas rather than Austin any more that it matters that UConn isn't in New Haven when a writer there writes about UConn. He's using his position in a pro-Texas, anti-OU manner. It's obvious why.
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Not going to get into it again, you guys can hold that opinion if you feel that way. All I'm going to say is I've read a lot of his stuff through the years and he's a very good reporter who actually broke the news that the Big 12 would get yesterday's vote before anyone else.

I believe he's not a fan of OU for reasons stated above, but do not think that's the case because of homerism or any kind of pro UT bias.
 
Our good friend Berry Tramel with some great stuff on how Boren is taking aim at the LHN.

http://newsok.com/david-boren-would-like-to-end-the-longhorn-network/article/5472488

David Boren would like to end The Longhorn Network
by Berry Tramel Published: January 14, 2016

David Boren has his sights set on something bigger than conference expansion or a Big 12 title game. The OU president is focused on what started this whole “psychologically disadvantaged” Big 12 in the first place.

The Longhorn Network.

On Wednesday, day the NCAA voted to allow the Big 12 to stage a football championship game even without divisional play or at least 12 members, Boren released a statement to the OU Daily, the campus newspaper.


“The Big 12 is disadvantaged when compared to the other conferences in three ways. We do not have at least 12 members, we do not have a conference network and we do not have a championship game. I think that all three of these disadvantages need to be addressed at the same time. Addressing only one without addressing all three will not be adequate to improve the strength of the conference.”
 
News flash - when you have a group of schools with conflicting goals, reporters are going to pick up on it.
 
NYUConn said:
Just because he doesn't advocate OU's interests doesn't mean he's pro UT.

We support Boren and OU because it's our best chance to get a P5 invite, but step back and take a look at it from someone who is covering the Big 12 as a league, and it's not unreasonable to see their actions as destabilizing the league.

That said, you could argue that UT and the LHN fired the first shots towards destabilization years earlier, but in its current state with members, OU is the one that is rocking the boat.
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No, he's actually questioning why Boren is doing this.

That's the part that seems crazy to me. He knows why Boren is upset, but he's impugning him anyway. That is some skewed reporting.
 
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NYUConn said:
Surprised you wanted to bring this up since you were proven completely wrong the last time you went out of your way to criticize him.

He's tweeting his opinion, which happens to be is super critical of OU. Doesn't make him a mouthiece for UT.
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Completely wrong? If anything, those tweets prove that he was a mouthpiece for Texas, and Texas had a good day. Where did I ever say Texas was pro expansion?
 
upstater said:
No, he's actually questioning why Boren is doing this.

That's the part that seems crazy to me. He knows why Boren is upset, but he's impugning him anyway. That is some skewed reporting.
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Yes that's what I noticed most. If anything, Boren's position is the only sane and logical one. UT's position helps UT and hurts every other school in the conference. So anyone suggesting that Boren is being illogical or destabilizing the Big XII is absolutely taking a very pro UT stance. Maybe he doesn't normally, that's fine, I believe that. On this issue he is.
 
Looking back, how did anyone outside of Austin think the LHN would be a good long term play for a conference without a network?? I couldn't imagine a marquee school like OU ever being ok with the financial/exposure disadvantage compared to their rival peer. This would crack the foundation of any conference (i.e. imagine a Buckeye network's impact on Michigan... USC/Oregon, FSU/Clemson, ect.)

From any angle, it seems like the Big XII will eventually burn to the ground and I can't blame OU for bringing the matches.
 
Afroabe224 said:
Looking back, how did anyone outside of Austin think the LHN would be a good long term play for a conference without a network?? I couldn't imagine a marquee school like OU ever being ok with the financial/exposure disadvantage compared to their rival peer. This would crack the foundation of any conference (i.e. imagine a Buckeye network's impact on Michigan... USC/Oregon, FSU/Clemson, ect.)

From any angle, it seems like the Big XII will eventually burn to the ground and I can't blame OU for bringing the matches.
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No one outside of Austin thought it was a good long term play and it's another reason why NU, CU, A & M and Mizzou left.
 
Mike Finger ‏@mikefinger · 41m41 minutes ago
Big 12 commish Bob Bowlsby wouldn't bite on question about David Boren's comments: "We'll work through that on a private basis."

Mike Finger ‏@mikefinger · 16m16 minutes ago
Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione on whether LHN is an obstacle for future of Big 12: "There's always a chance for creativity."

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DaveSittler1:37pm via Twitter Web Client
Big 12's apparent current pecking order: Cincy, UConn, Houston, UCF, USF, Memphis, Tulane, BYU. Even though UConn seems closer to Iceland.

DaveSittler1:47pm via Twitter Web Client
Said that was Big 12"s apparent pecking order. Here's mine: BYU, Cincy, Houston, UCF, USF, Memphis, Tulane, UConn.

(Journalist. Covered Big 8/12 for 40-plus years. Past president of Football Writers Association of America.)
 
huskymedic said:
DaveSittler1:37pm via Twitter Web Client
Big 12's apparent current pecking order: Cincy, UConn, Houston, UCF, USF, Memphis, Tulane, BYU. Even though UConn seems closer to Iceland.

DaveSittler1:47pm via Twitter Web Client
Said that was Big 12"s apparent pecking order. Here's mine: BYU, Cincy, Houston, UCF, USF, Memphis, Tulane, UConn.

(Journalist. Covered Big 8/12 for 40-plus years. Past president of Football Writers Association of America.)
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Flugar can go into gloat mode now.

I really like where BYU is on the first list (and UConn's position, obv).

Buuuuut - I also want to know if this is a list generated by Boren/OU, WVU, the expansion committee, or a larger group. I tweeted at Sittler but no response yet.
 
huskymedic said:
DaveSittler1:37pm via Twitter Web Client
Big 12's apparent current pecking order: Cincy, UConn, Houston, UCF, USF, Memphis, Tulane, BYU. Even though UConn seems closer to Iceland.

DaveSittler1:47pm via Twitter Web Client
Said that was Big 12"s apparent pecking order. Here's mine: BYU, Cincy, Houston, UCF, USF, Memphis, Tulane, UConn.

(Journalist. Covered Big 8/12 for 40-plus years. Past president of Football Writers Association of America.)
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Well, it's sure generating reactions:

JakeInMotown1:44pm via Twitter Web Client
@DaveSittler There is no logical explanation for BYU being at the end of that list. None.

RaiderRantings 2:00pm via Twitter for Android
UConn adds NOTHING in the way of football. No history, no real success, no recruiting, horrible location, uninterested fans. #big12expansion

donald_farmer 2:33pm via Twitter Web Client
@DaveSittler UConn? A joke? Does the B12 not care about football, football recruiting, culture, or geography at all?
 
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I agree with the nay sayers. We don't belong in the B12.

Before you all freak out. I think more than anything, being one of the 2 piped for future expansion should raise flags in the ACC/B1G. Sign us up boys.
 
mavblues said:
I responded to him (let's get some likes on Twitter to send a message):

Mavblues ‏@mavblues now

@RaiderRantings Dumb. Higher winning % than many in P5. Check UCONN players in NFL and CT HS players in D-1. Check TV sets and avg income $
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It's always weird to me that the fans of the bottom feeders of any conference want to act as the gatekeepers for membership. BC is the same way about the ACC. I'm sure Rutgirls fans would feel the same way about us going to the B1G.
 
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TRest said:
It's always weird to me that the fans of the bottom feeders of any conference want to act as the gatekeepers for membership. BC is the same way about the ACC. I'm sure Rutgirls fans would feel the same way about us going to the B1G.
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Actually no....even RutgersAl would like to see us in the B1G.
 
Fishy said:
You stupid motherf-ckers are harder to train than animals.

Key tweets.
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