Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[baggerbob]

I don't think the P2 has the legislative weight. Why? Look at each of the states and count the number of P2 vs non-P2 schools. In Texas, there are 2 P2 schools and 10 non-P2 schools. In Florida, there is 1 P2 school and 6 non-P2 schools. In Ohio, there is 1 P2 school and 7 non-P2 schools. In Georgia, there is 1 P2 school and 4 non-P2 schools. In California, there are 2 P2 schools and 4 non-P2 schools. etc,... Look at the student populations of Florida schools:

P2: 56k
non-P2: 236k

Based on those numbers, do you think politicians are going to side with P2 schools and diminish the majority of schools in their states? No way.

Not if they don't want to be out of a job.

 

[UConnJim]

List the schools, and then reevaluate in terms of intensity of fan support. Your analysis is legislators will act in support of G5 schools. In my opinion, they will do nothing so that they will not alienate the P2 schools fans. Taking action puts them at risk. Doing nothing does not.

Here's how to think about this. The Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 (NFL anti-trust) was passed by the House, Senate, and signed into law by the President. The P2 leaves out too many schools and states to be able to get legislation through Washington.

So, in Florida, alienate the fans of Florida St., Miami, UCF, USF, FIU, FAU? Not happening.

Here's another way to look at fan support. Combined average attendance by game of P2 vs non-P2 schools by state:

Florida: P2: 89.6k, non-P2: 244.4k
Texas: P2: 200.8K, non-P2: 339.6k
California: P2: 113.9k, non-P2: 153.4k
Ohio: P2: 103.8k, non-P2: 113.9k

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Here's how to think about this. The Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 (NFL anti-trust) was passed by the House, Senate, and signed into law by the President. The P2 leaves out too many schools and states to be able to get legislation through Washington.

So, in Florida, alienate the fans of Florida St., Miami, UCF, USF, FIU, FAU? Not happening.

Here's another way to look at fan support. Combined average attendance by game of P2 vs non-P2 schools by state:

Florida: P2: 89.6k, non-P2: 244.4k
Texas: P2: 200.8K, non-P2: 339.6k
California: P2: 113.9k, non-P2: 153.4k
Ohio: P2: 103.8k, non-P2: 113.9k

This is an arguement I've been making for a couple of years; if there is bi-partisan political will across numerous states that have non-P2 (D1-D3) impacted states (which is basically all 50 states), then it's going to be difficult for a P2 breakoff. Unless the FB P2 agrees to some sort of large March Madness concession. Maybe there are other concessions the P2 could make as well.

 

[huskymedic]

Devil is always in the details:



-> MW BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT: The conference basketball tournament will remain in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Note: The league was not considering moving the event outside of Las Vegas, though had explored moving the tournament out of the Thomas & Mack Center on UNLV’s campus. It has been reported that it will now remain at the Thomas & Mack, though all that is spelled out in the MOU is that it remain in Las Vegas).

OFFICES MOVING: Though it’s unclear why this would be included in an MOU of this nature, clause eight reads: “The conference will move its offices to Las Vegas, Nevada, as soon as practicable after the expiration of its existing office lease in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and such Conference offices shall remain in Las Vegas, Nevada, at least through the end of the Term of this MOU and the Grant of Rights Agreement.” The league’s headquarters have been in Colorado Springs since December 1998.

MOVING FORWARD: Notably, any MW member school invited to join the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12 or SEC can leave without penalty. And the MOU can be modified only in writing and with both the league and 3/4 of the member schools. <-

 

[CL82]

So, in Florida, alienate the fans of Florida St., Miami, UCF, USF, FIU, FAU? Not happening.

True. Alienating Gator fans is also some thing that's not going to happen, however. So where would that leave a politician with reasonably well-developed self preservation instincts? The answer is sitting silently on the sidelines.

With material opposition on either side of an issue, politicians won't take a side.

 

[UConnJim]

True. Alienating Gator fans is also some thing that's not going to happen, however. So where would that leave a politician with reasonably well-developed self preservation instincts? The answer is sitting silently on the sidelines.

With material opposition on either side of an issue, politicians won't take a side.

Sitting on the sidelines means any legislation won't pass.

 

[CL82]

Sitting on the sidelines means any legislation won't pass.

 

[Rappin'Rodney]

Settlement designed to pay college athletes gets preliminary approval

 

[Durks07]

Finally some good news!



/s

 

[Ha Who]

Finally some good news!



/s

The first line of Rudy is rule number one

 

[uconnyankee]

Why would this be good news?

 

[Ha Who]

Why would this be good news?

It is horrible news

 

[Tfoyle]

so if u take BIG, SEC, B12, ACC+ND and PAC2 you get to 70. This sucks.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Just in case you didn’t read the article: most of the SEC/Big Ten sources basically said they’re not interested. At least at the moment.

 

[jostar1]

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

This is why you join any power league for a dollar a year

 

[Forte]

How is all this picking up steam so fast out of no where with every scenario excluding anyone whos not in the haves effective immediately?

 

[Alum86]

This is why you join any power league for a dollar a year

Agree. Didn’t we just turn our noses at a FB only invite because it was “not a good fit?” Join now, worry later.

 

[Ha Who]

Agree. Didn’t we just turn our noses at a FB only invite because it was “not a good fit?” Join now, worry later.

Didn’t realize PAC 12 was part of the 70

 

[JohnFSilver]

This opens up a lot of anti trust issues with the G5 and others. Essentially, if they take private equity, the are going to be subject to anti-trust accusations.

I just don’t see the rest of college athletics willing to allow this kind of consolidation. Also, that also opens up the league as a for profit enterprise.

Just way too complicated.

 

[jostar1]

Agree. Didn’t we just turn our noses at a FB only invite because it was “not a good fit?” Join now, worry later.

The PAC as newly reconfigured isn't part of the 70, but it appears that Project Rudy does include Washington State and Oregon State, at least when they started working on the proposal. The schools in the P4 Conferences total 67, plus ND makes 68. The other two must be Washington State and Oregon State.

 

[Samoo]

Well, as long as our crack negotiator Ben Dover is on the job, UConn has nothing to worry about...

 

[Fishy]

This proposal is nonsense.

 

[Patman]

so if u take BIG, SEC, B12, ACC+ND and PAC2 you get to 70. This sucks.

its not happening

There is no "alt proposal" that is going to work because it doesn't benefit the big 10 or sec. Its a day dream by the have-nots, WVU and Syracuse.

 

[Stinger92860]

This opens up a lot of anti trust issues with the G5 and others. Essentially, if they take private equity, the are going to be subject to anti-trust accusations.

I just don’t see the rest of college athletics willing to allow this kind of consolidation. Also, that also opens up the league as a for profit enterprise.

Just way too complicated.

The 70 schools, for the most part, represent the largest schools in a state. I doubt that senators or congressmen from those states will support anti-trust action Initiated by the DOJ. Yes, there may be other schools of consequence in these states but it won’t move the needle from a political perspective.

if we have a PAC offer we should take it Now.