Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[shizzle787]

The reason UConn needs to make this move is to not only get into the P4 now but give themselves a chance to get into the Big 10 in 10-15 years. If the SEC and Big 10 go to 24 schools in the future and UConn is at least average in football in the Big 12 (very plausible given previous performance in BCS league), UConn would have a decent shot to be team #23 or #24. That is why you have to make the move. I don't know if the Big 12 is going to add UConn but I know why some Big 12 schools would be opposed and it's not because of football, it's because they fall behind UConn in the Big 10 pecking order if the Huskies are invited.

Teams never sniffing the Big 10:
UCF
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Iowa State
Kansas State
Baylor
BYU
Oklahoma State
Houston

Teams with a chance:
Texas Tech
TCU

Teams with a real opportunity if the Big 10 goes to 24 (obviously some of these schools could get picked off by the SEC as well):
Kansas
Utah
UConn
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado

 

[How Sway?!]

Either the president or AD of ASU was vocal about not wanting to join the Big12 yet they still going invited. Who cares what talking heads and hoi polloi say

Yeah, that sounds like bs to me. Utah is on record saying that joining the B12 was a stepping stone for them and no one batted an eye.

 

[shizzle787]

Yeah, that sounds like bs to me. Utah is on record saying that joining the B12 was a stepping stone for them and no one batted an eye.

It is. They are trying to get into the Big 10 ultimately just like us. We are Big 10 expansion competitions for Kansas and the 4 Corner schools.

 

[gsmooth]

If that's even true, it would mean they are just collecting convenient excuses to use for saying no.

The commissioner they hired for reasons like this wants us

The consultant who is hired just for this reason wants us

ESPN wants us

This would be pretty radical for those members to vote no considering all this. They have to scrape for reasons

This post is correct. The absurdly bad football for UConn over the last decade-plus makes it easier for others to vote them down.

Here is a question for everybody here that is partially rhetorical:
If UConn Football did the following things:

1) averaged somewhere between 6-7.5 wins every year for the last few years
2) played competitive and competent football on offense (offense is the trend football has been moving in for a while)
3) filled the Rent to 80% capacity with loud fans for a good game environment that looks good and sounds good on TV

Would any of these peripheral things such as Chris Murphy tweets, basketball only people making noise, BC objecting profusely (for ACC), even matter? I don't think so, because the conference, Big 12 or ACC, would see value in adding UConn. UConn being a key player in the northeast and bringing their gold gem basketball all matter and probably could've been enough with competent football, but the football has been that bad it causes hesitation.

 

[UC1995]

The reason UConn needs to make this move is to not only get into the P4 now but give themselves a chance to get into the Big 10 in 10-15 years. If the SEC and Big 10 go to 24 schools in the future and UConn is at least average in football in the Big 12 (very plausible given previous performance in BCS league), UConn would have a decent shot to be team #23 or #24. That is why you have to make the move. I don't know if the Big 12 is going to add UConn but I know why some Big 12 schools would be opposed and it's not because of football, it's because they fall behind UConn in the Big 10 pecking order if the Huskies are invited.

Teams never sniffing the Big 10:
UCF
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Iowa State
Kansas State
Baylor
BYU
Oklahoma State
Houston

Teams with a chance:
Texas Tech
TCU

Teams with a real opportunity if the Big 10 goes to 24 (obviously some of these schools could get picked off by the SEC as well):
Kansas
Utah
UConn
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado

I am not sure why you keep putting out these absurd theories about the Big Ten. We’re not AAU they’re not taking us. there are plenty of schools that already have a status that would be ahead of us, but our football is never gonna reach the status that they want even if we could be better than record in the end

 

[shizzle787]

I am not sure why you keep putting out these absurd theories about the Big Ten. We’re not AAU they’re not taking us. there are plenty of schools that already have a status that would be ahead of us, but our football is never gonna reach the status that they want even if we could be better than record in the end

Why do you not think we will achieve AAU status? Schools like USF and Arizona State just did last year. We are pretty close.

Who is ahead of us? And keep in mind the SEC is taking draft picks too. They have eight spots to the Big Ten's six if both go to 24.

Teams with a non-zero chance of joining either a 24-team SEC or Big 10:
UConn
Utah
Kansas
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
TCU
Texas Tech
Stanford
Cal
Notre Dame
Florida State
Clemson
North Carolina
Virginia
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Virginia Tech
Duke
Miami
NC State
Syracuse
Pitt

That's the list.

The Big 10 list (many of which may end up in SEC).
UConn
Arizona
Colorado
Arizona State
Utah
Kansas
Notre Dame
Florida State
Clemson
North Carolina
Virginia
Georgia Tech
Virginia Tech
Duke
Miami
Syracuse
Pitt

IF eight of the above schools land in the SEC, that leaves 6 spots for 8 teams in the Big 10 (not including Notre Dame).

We are going to have to beat out schools like Pitt, Syracuse, Duke, Arizona State, and Georgia Tech to get to the promised land. The only way that happens if is we join the Big 12 or ACC in the very near future.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

The Big 10 is more likely to shed teams than to add on additional mouths to feed that don't bring national cache in football.

I mean, my god, Washington is a legacy program that just played for the national title and is taking a partial share..

 

[The Yakk]

there is no way on this earth that the B10 has any interest in UConn.

Probably true.

Definitely true that there is no way UConn or any school not named "Notre Dame" ever turns down a Big 10 invitation and the money.

But speaking purely as a fan, I have little interest or excitement in ever watching UConn men's bb play in that conference. Shoddily-reffed slogs run by coaches with 1950s-era offensive mentalities.

Yes there is money and yes they send 8 to 10 teams to the tournament every year, but their hoops sucks and those teams are usually first-weekend speed bumps.

The Big 12, on the other hand, is awesome hoops.

 

[JohnFSilver]

With the exception of carriage fees Rutgers brings no access or interest from NYC. None.

It’s going to be an ongoing issue. Carriage fees are gonna be less and less. It isn’t a growth area.

Over time, those carriage fees aren’t going to be worth Rutgers existence. It’s why SMU getting in to ACC for carriage reason is some of the dumbest reasoning I have seen.

There is NO GROWTH MARKET in carriage. Whatever you get for carriage today is going to decline quarter over quarter.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

right now uconn has almost no chance of getting into the B10, if the fb team ranked in top 30 or better and uconn gets selected for aau, it may be considered. even then its not a sure thing

 

[JohnFSilver]

The Big 10 is more likely to shed teams than to add on additional mouths to feed that don't bring national cache in football.

I mean, my god, Washington is a legacy program that just played for the national title and is taking a partial share..

lol. Show u how bad smu screwed up everyone and everything .

 

[shizzle787]

The Big 10 is more likely to shed teams than to add on additional mouths to feed that don't bring national cache in football.

I mean, my god, Washington is a legacy program that just played for the national title and is taking a partial share..

For one TV contract. They are getting a full share on the next one.

 

[shizzle787]

right now uconn has almost no chance of getting into the B10, if the fb team ranked in top 30 or better and uconn gets selected for aau, it may be considered. even then its not a sure thing

We were literally a top 35 program in the Big East. AAU membership isn't that far around the corner.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

We were literally a top 35 program in the Big East. AAU membership isn't that far around the corner.

the decent ranking was maybe a dozen years ago. as of last season we were a dumpster fire football program I want them to go 8 and 4 this season but that may not even get us in the top 60. Many universities claim AAU is around the corner. We have to dramatically increase research output to be considered for AAU. If we can get into B12 or ACC, improve FB and build academic research for maybe 10 years, we may have a shot at the B10 but don't count on it.

 

[Kolumbo]

We were literally a top 35 program in the Big East. AAU membership isn't that far around the corner.

Keep fighting the good fight Shizzle. "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take," or something.

"10. The hiring, 1986: In 1979, UConn was one of seven founding members of the Big East Conference. But before Calhoun took the job, the Huskies averaged a mere 15 wins a season. At his introductory news conference, Calhoun was asked if UConn could -- gasp -- one day become a national power. His response? "It's doable." Yes, yes it was."

 

[UConnTrumbull]

 

[UConn Dan]

I was only half paying attention during that portion. It sounded like he was guessing at that no?

 

[UConnTrumbull]

I was only half paying attention during that portion. It sounded like he was guessing at that no?

Honestly I have no idea. Just thought I would pass it along. Borderline non-key tweet.

 

[Ucxc24]

The longer this is going on the more it just leaves a sour taste. I get the predicament we are in, but we just can’t keep being embarrassed as a program every year or two when the musical chairs start. I have a feeling Yormark is a classic example of “ahead of its time”. The fact that some presidents might be worried about their football image taking a hit before UConn football would even join tells you how far off they are.

 

[UConn Dan]

Honestly I have no idea. Just thought I would pass it along. Borderline non-key tweet.

GoKU suggested that they heard upwards of $15million per year from ESPN to add us. Not sure if true, obviously, and if true more than likely we would share some/most with the other teams until the next contract where we get a more equal share.

 

[gsmooth]

The longer this is going on the more it just leaves a sour taste. I get the predicament we are in, but we just can’t keep being embarrassed as a program every year or two when the musical chairs start. I have a feeling Yormark is a classic example of “ahead of its time”. The fact that some presidents might be worried about their football image taking a hit before UConn football would even join tells you how far off they are.

Yes exactly. The Big 12 presidents really should be listening to Yormark because..

1) he saved the Big 12 by unexpectedly getting a very good TV contract by acting quickly. The Big 12 at the time was at the risk of extinction with the Texas and Oklahoma departures.

AND

2) said contract in #1 ended up looking like a very enticing life raft for the Pac 12 4 corner schools when their own TV contract looked awful and after the Washington and Oregon bolted for the Big 10

Yormark has been several steps ahead of the curve.

 

[Skiblets]

Lamont offers ESPN 50M more per year in tax credits for next 10 years.

ESPN offers Big 12 $20m to add us. CT adds $60 per resident on income tax.

Done

 

[psilotic]

ESPN has hosed UConn virtually every step of the conf. realignment way since 2003. Now we're supposed to believe they're the white knight? Well, they certainly owe a few favors to the flagship U of their home state, that's for sure

 

[huskymedic]

Norlander/Dodd:

UConn to the Big 12? What conference decision-makers, TV partners are considering with potential addition

The Huskies could be in the Big 12 for basketball by 2026 and for football by 2031

www.cbssports.com

-> Does Yormark have the votes?​

It's not clear, but at this stage, indications are that he does not. That's what Monday's presentation was about. Any such expansion requires a "super majority" of Big 12 presidents voting in favor of expansion. That is, at least 12 of the 16 schools must approve.

Discussions are ongoing, but it's worth mentioning that Baylor president Linda Livingstone is the current Big 12 chair of the conference board of directors and the chair of the NCAA Board of Directors. What she thinks matters. CBS Sports reported Monday the current count is 6-2 in favor of the move. That two against might be a conservative estimate. Sources have indicated a handful of schools are either outright "no" votes or highly skeptical of the proposition at this stage.

A reminder, it only takes five votes to nix the move. Additionally, Yormark is trying to steer this issue amid a new group of presidents who don't fully align on this topic. Expansion is always a hot-button issue. Yormark is trying to work his pitch while avoiding disagreement as the Big 12 debuts with 16 teams in the latest era of profound transformation in college athletics.

If Yormark doesn't have the votes, there probably won't be a vote. That's what the next few weeks about -- presidents sharing information with their ADs and administrators to come up with an institutional opinion. Ideally, any commissioner would want a unanimous vote to assure alignment in the conference. Even though the presidents have the vote on this issue, it would be advantageous for Yormark to have total alignment. That means president and athletic director across the Big 12 board agree to bring in UConn. <-

There is a lot more in the article. Strongly suggest a read before commenting.

 

[hank970]

The reason UConn needs to make this move is to not only get into the P4 now but give themselves a chance to get into the Big 10 in 10-15 years. If the SEC and Big 10 go to 24 schools in the future and UConn is at least average in football in the Big 12 (very plausible given previous performance in BCS league), UConn would have a decent shot to be team #23 or #24. That is why you have to make the move. I don't know if the Big 12 is going to add UConn but I know why some Big 12 schools would be opposed and it's not because of football, it's because they fall behind UConn in the Big 10 pecking order if the Huskies are invited.

Teams never sniffing the Big 10:
UCF
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Iowa State
Kansas State
Baylor
BYU
Oklahoma State
Houston

Teams with a chance:
Texas Tech
TCU

Teams with a real opportunity if the Big 10 goes to 24 (obviously some of these schools could get picked off by the SEC as well):
Kansas
Utah
UConn
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado

Some of your conjecture has merit, and some is complete bull crap.