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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

buddy said:
Definitely looking more and more likely UConn got played again. It is bad enough with the negativity outside, but when some of our own fans and public figures are so adamant against this move, it is not a good look. Not surprised, but disappointed.
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Again, this got leaked to a podcaster for exactly this reason. They knew the sentimentalist would start crying about their beloved bus trips and soon after the Chris Murphy types would crap on a potential move.

Why do i say this? The source went from they "definitely" have the votes to only 8 or 9 votes. That's how you cut this things legs off before they move.

Going forward, Benedict, Toscano and Burton are going to have to be super secretive about this. There are traitors among us.
 
noeynox said:
Again, this got leaked to a podcaster for exactly this reason. They knew the sentimentalist would start crying about their beloved bus trips and soon after the Chris Murphy types would crap on a potential move.

Why do i say this? The source went from they "definitely" have the votes to only 8 or 9 votes. That's how you cut this things legs off before they move.

Going forward, Benedict, Toscano and Burton are going to have to be super secretive about this. There are traitors among us.
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Why would Benedict, Toscano, and Burton not be super secretive now if they want us in the Big 12 and someone from CT leaking it would blow up the deal?
 
Odd question. I know the football record has been poor. Why haven’t we gone out and overpaid for a Huge name in coaching? Would that soften the stance on record?

Example a std p4 coach makes xxx. Triple that.

Then you get your conference goals. The excitement of they hired so and so. Almost like the Dion Sanders factor.

Whatever names from the NFL you could get.
 
GemParty said:
Odd question. I know the football record has been poor. Why haven’t we gone out and overpaid for a Huge name in coaching? Would that soften the stance on record?

Example a std p4 coach makes xxx. Triple that.

Then you get your conference goals. The excitement of they hired so and so. Almost like the Dion Sanders factor.

Whatever names from the NFL you could get.
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Conflicting priorities and needs. UConn under heavy $$ pressure in last 5-10 years. Upgrading FB was a hard sell, both to donors and the State. People are enjoying the glow of consecutive titles, and coming to the realization that that glow will be in the rear view if we don’t get shipshape(P3/4) asap.
 
GemParty said:
Odd question. I know the football record has been poor. Why haven’t we gone out and overpaid for a Huge name in coaching? Would that soften the stance on record?

Example a std p4 coach makes xxx. Triple that.

Then you get your conference goals. The excitement of they hired so and so. Almost like the Dion Sanders factor.

Whatever names from the NFL you could get.
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Where is this $15M-$20M/year coming from to pay this head coach and staff?
 
gsmooth said:
I think this is what drives UConn fans nuts, or definitely myself nuts. The football was so bad over the last decade-plus and whenever UConn had to right the ship, it just got worse. What you said encapsulates why last year was so deflating. Instead of gaining momentum and building off of the 6-6 season, last year was deep sixed and I knew it during the Georgia State game when UConn was down early in the 2nd half 28-0. Even if they won the Utah St game and the South Florida game, they would have been 5-7 and optically speaking that looks a lot better than 3-9.
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If you look at the number of games last year that we lost by one or two scores, you can see how close we were to being right around 500 again. I am very hopeful that we can make a statement of sorts this season. Not confident, mind you, because there are so many unknowns, but hopeful.
 
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superjohn said:
Why would Benedict, Toscano, and Burton not be super secretive now if they want us in the Big 12 and someone from CT leaking it would blow up the deal?
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I don't know. But someone leaked it and i doubt it was any of them.
 
GemParty said:
Odd question. I know the football record has been poor. Why haven’t we gone out and overpaid for a Huge name in coaching? Would that soften the stance on record?

Example a std p4 coach makes xxx. Triple that.

Then you get your conference goals. The excitement of they hired so and so. Almost like the Dion Sanders factor.

Whatever names from the NFL you could get.
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Because we don't have the money for that. Plain and simple. That's why I question where we will get the money from in the next 7 years to improve the football program for when the Big 12 TV contract comes up in 2031 if we aren't part of the Big 12.
 
king conn said:
If that's even true, it would mean they are just collecting convenient excuses to use for saying no.

The commissioner they hired for reasons like this wants us

The consultant who is hired just for this reason wants us

ESPN wants us

This would be pretty radical for those members to vote no considering all this. They have to scrape for reasons
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Bingo.
 
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The reason UConn needs to make this move is to not only get into the P4 now but give themselves a chance to get into the Big 10 in 10-15 years. If the SEC and Big 10 go to 24 schools in the future and UConn is at least average in football in the Big 12 (very plausible given previous performance in BCS league), UConn would have a decent shot to be team #23 or #24. That is why you have to make the move. I don't know if the Big 12 is going to add UConn but I know why some Big 12 schools would be opposed and it's not because of football, it's because they fall behind UConn in the Big 10 pecking order if the Huskies are invited.

Teams never sniffing the Big 10:
UCF
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Iowa State
Kansas State
Baylor
BYU
Oklahoma State
Houston

Teams with a chance:
Texas Tech
TCU

Teams with a real opportunity if the Big 10 goes to 24 (obviously some of these schools could get picked off by the SEC as well):
Kansas
Utah
UConn
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
 
bendm said:
Either the president or AD of ASU was vocal about not wanting to join the Big12 yet they still going invited. Who cares what talking heads and hoi polloi say
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Yeah, that sounds like bs to me. Utah is on record saying that joining the B12 was a stepping stone for them and no one batted an eye.
 
How Sway?! said:
Yeah, that sounds like bs to me. Utah is on record saying that joining the B12 was a stepping stone for them and no one batted an eye.
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It is. They are trying to get into the Big 10 ultimately just like us. We are Big 10 expansion competitions for Kansas and the 4 Corner schools.
 
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king conn said:
If that's even true, it would mean they are just collecting convenient excuses to use for saying no.

The commissioner they hired for reasons like this wants us

The consultant who is hired just for this reason wants us

ESPN wants us

This would be pretty radical for those members to vote no considering all this. They have to scrape for reasons
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This post is correct. The absurdly bad football for UConn over the last decade-plus makes it easier for others to vote them down.

Here is a question for everybody here that is partially rhetorical:
If UConn Football did the following things:

1) averaged somewhere between 6-7.5 wins every year for the last few years
2) played competitive and competent football on offense (offense is the trend football has been moving in for a while)
3) filled the Rent to 80% capacity with loud fans for a good game environment that looks good and sounds good on TV

Would any of these peripheral things such as Chris Murphy tweets, basketball only people making noise, BC objecting profusely (for ACC), even matter? I don't think so, because the conference, Big 12 or ACC, would see value in adding UConn. UConn being a key player in the northeast and bringing their gold gem basketball all matter and probably could've been enough with competent football, but the football has been that bad it causes hesitation.
 
shizzle787 said:
The reason UConn needs to make this move is to not only get into the P4 now but give themselves a chance to get into the Big 10 in 10-15 years. If the SEC and Big 10 go to 24 schools in the future and UConn is at least average in football in the Big 12 (very plausible given previous performance in BCS league), UConn would have a decent shot to be team #23 or #24. That is why you have to make the move. I don't know if the Big 12 is going to add UConn but I know why some Big 12 schools would be opposed and it's not because of football, it's because they fall behind UConn in the Big 10 pecking order if the Huskies are invited.

Teams never sniffing the Big 10:
UCF
Cincinnati
West Virginia
Iowa State
Kansas State
Baylor
BYU
Oklahoma State
Houston

Teams with a chance:
Texas Tech
TCU

Teams with a real opportunity if the Big 10 goes to 24 (obviously some of these schools could get picked off by the SEC as well):
Kansas
Utah
UConn
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
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I am not sure why you keep putting out these absurd theories about the Big Ten. We’re not AAU they’re not taking us. there are plenty of schools that already have a status that would be ahead of us, but our football is never gonna reach the status that they want even if we could be better than record in the end
 
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UC1995 said:
I am not sure why you keep putting out these absurd theories about the Big Ten. We’re not AAU they’re not taking us. there are plenty of schools that already have a status that would be ahead of us, but our football is never gonna reach the status that they want even if we could be better than record in the end
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Why do you not think we will achieve AAU status? Schools like USF and Arizona State just did last year. We are pretty close.

Who is ahead of us? And keep in mind the SEC is taking draft picks too. They have eight spots to the Big Ten's six if both go to 24.

Teams with a non-zero chance of joining either a 24-team SEC or Big 10:
UConn
Utah
Kansas
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
TCU
Texas Tech
Stanford
Cal
Notre Dame
Florida State
Clemson
North Carolina
Virginia
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Virginia Tech
Duke
Miami
NC State
Syracuse
Pitt

That's the list.

The Big 10 list (many of which may end up in SEC).
UConn
Arizona
Colorado
Arizona State
Utah
Kansas
Notre Dame
Florida State
Clemson
North Carolina
Virginia
Georgia Tech
Virginia Tech
Duke
Miami
Syracuse
Pitt

IF eight of the above schools land in the SEC, that leaves 6 spots for 8 teams in the Big 10 (not including Notre Dame).

We are going to have to beat out schools like Pitt, Syracuse, Duke, Arizona State, and Georgia Tech to get to the promised land. The only way that happens if is we join the Big 12 or ACC in the very near future.
 
Patman said:
there is no way on this earth that the B10 has any interest in UConn.
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Probably true.

Definitely true that there is no way UConn or any school not named "Notre Dame" ever turns down a Big 10 invitation and the money.

But speaking purely as a fan, I have little interest or excitement in ever watching UConn men's bb play in that conference. Shoddily-reffed slogs run by coaches with 1950s-era offensive mentalities.

Yes there is money and yes they send 8 to 10 teams to the tournament every year, but their hoops sucks and those teams are usually first-weekend speed bumps.

The Big 12, on the other hand, is awesome hoops.
 
Stinger92860 said:
With the exception of carriage fees Rutgers brings no access or interest from NYC. None.
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It’s going to be an ongoing issue. Carriage fees are gonna be less and less. It isn’t a growth area.

Over time, those carriage fees aren’t going to be worth Rutgers existence. It’s why SMU getting in to ACC for carriage reason is some of the dumbest reasoning I have seen.

There is NO GROWTH MARKET in carriage. Whatever you get for carriage today is going to decline quarter over quarter.
 
right now uconn has almost no chance of getting into the B10, if the fb team ranked in top 30 or better and uconn gets selected for aau, it may be considered. even then its not a sure thing
 
ConnHuskBask said:
The Big 10 is more likely to shed teams than to add on additional mouths to feed that don't bring national cache in football.

I mean, my god, Washington is a legacy program that just played for the national title and is taking a partial share..
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lol. Show u how bad smu screwed up everyone and everything .
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
The Big 10 is more likely to shed teams than to add on additional mouths to feed that don't bring national cache in football.

I mean, my god, Washington is a legacy program that just played for the national title and is taking a partial share..
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For one TV contract. They are getting a full share on the next one.
 
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