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JwittersPAC said:
Understand. But I think expectations need to be reasonable. JF greatly exceeded expectations. Look through the teams in the G5 and P4 and many QBs do not live up to expectations. There are many college football teams with excellent head coach, OC and QB coach. For example, I would say Evers was a miss. We should expect next years QB not to be remotely as successful as JF.
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And he greatly exceeded expectations in his 3rd year with the program. 2025 Joe F wasn't plug and play at this level on Day 1.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Nice thing is a lower level FBS or FCS QB without any major offers knows he has an HC, OC and QB coach with a track record. UConn has shown it can polish a diamond in the rough. It's not a requirement to break the NIL bank on one QB. UConn still needs to spread its NIL money out to get as many good players as possible.
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I think Nick Mincucci (Delaware) would be a solid get if he intends to portal. Just saying
 
shizzle787 said:
A QB won't have to. UConn put out a press release stating they will fully fund revenue sharing starting from next year.
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If UConn will have $20.5 million then they should have at least $10 million for football. Then you are correct NIL should not be an issue competing.
 
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jostar1 said:
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Wasn’t that what they had with the CFA 40 years ago?

E Gordon Gee is someone to be wary of.

He seems to be basically proposing a pro model, but with the teams earning vastly vastly different amounts. It would be like having the cowboys and XFL teams in the same league.
And forcing schools to give up complete scheduling autonomy?
 
Vowelguy said:
Wasn’t that what they had with the CFA 40 years ago?

E Gordon Gee is someone to be wary of.

He seems to be basically proposing a pro model, but with the teams earning vastly vastly different amounts. It would be like having the cowboys and XFL teams in the same league.
And forcing schools to give up complete scheduling autonomy?
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It's a good piece that makes some intelligent observations.

America’s college athletic system is far too important to be jeopardized by short-term attempted “fixes” that do not address its long-term, systemic problems.

The notion of having one negotiated deal for college football would be a godsend for us assuming that every member got an equal share. There is no way the powers that be would ever allow that to happen. Even if a collectively negotiated contract would make them more money they would neither accept nor tolerate "lesser schools" earning equal revenue.
 
CL82 said:
It's a good piece that makes some intelligent observations.

America’s college athletic system is far too important to be jeopardized by short-term attempted “fixes” that do not address its long-term, systemic problems.

The notion of having one negotiated deal for college football would be a godsend for us assuming that every member got an equal share. There is no way the powers that be would ever allow that to happen. Even if a collectively negotiated contract would make them more money they would neither accept nor tolerate "lesser schools" earning equal revenue.
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And why should they? That would be like paying your good employees the same as your bad employees.
 
JwittersPAC said:
And why should they? That would be like paying your good employees the same as your bad employees.
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I don't know that the most high profile programs are our employers so much as our partners or coventures. That said, I agree with you a more egalitarian distribution of profits doesn't benefit the people who are currently taking the lion share of the profits even if it does mean that they get a more absolute dollars.
 
CL82 said:
I don't know that the most high profile programs are our employers so much as our partners or coventures. That said, I agree with you a more egalitarian distribution of profits doesn't benefit the people who are currently taking the lion share of the profits even if it does mean that they get a more absolute dollars.
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Well, then, maybe pay based upon viewership per game broadcast. After all, that is how the advertiser compensate the broadcast outlets, in the first place.

The University of Southern North Dacota at Hoople v Southwestern Northeast Idaho College of Dermatology will be compensated accordingly, as would UConn v Duke.
 
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prankster said:
Well, then, maybe pay based upon viewership per game broadcast. After all, that is how the advertiser compensate the broadcast outlets, in the first place.

The University of Southern North Dacota at Hoople v Southwestern Northeast Idaho College of Dermatology will be compensated accordingly, as would UConn v Duke.
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Isn't that what the ACC is going to do?
 
prankster said:
Well, then, maybe pay based upon viewership per game broadcast. After all, that is how the advertiser compensate the broadcast outlets, in the first place.

The University of Southern North Dacota at Hoople v Southwestern Northeast Idaho College of Dermatology will be compensated accordingly, as would UConn v Duke.
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The deal is decided before the game is played. I guess you could base it upon prior your ratings, though it would be imperfect.
 
CL82 said:
I don't know that the most high profile programs are our employers so much as our partners or coventures. That said, I agree with you a more egalitarian distribution of profits doesn't benefit the people who are currently taking the lion share of the profits even if it does mean that they get a more absolute dollars.
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Yeah I am not seeing combining all schools under 1 contract would give more money to the elite schools if all 136 FBS schools are getting the same share/amount. If anything I would argue following the NFL model and going to say maybe 40 schools would generate more income for those schools.
 
JwittersPAC said:
Yeah I am not seeing combining all schools under 1 contract would give more money to the elite schools if all 136 FBS schools are getting the same share/amount. If anything I would argue following the NFL model and going to say maybe 40 schools would generate more income for those schools.
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I'm inclined to agree
 
Isn’t this the path we’re on?
Used to be BCS with 5 conferences.
Now we’re at a P4 with #3 and #4 very distant, so people are saying P2.

And there are whispers of the P2 breaking off. That will be the media consolidation Gee is referring
 
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Exit 4 said:
Oh yeah, well ND you are running out of new ideas to toxify this relationship further. The only thing left is leaving. Is that the plan now?

And if you leave, enjoy that B1G or SEC schedule.
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Exit 4 said:
Oh yeah, well ND you are running out of new ideas to toxify this relationship further. The only thing left is leaving. Is that the plan now?

And if you leave, enjoy that B1G or SEC schedule.
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Why do they need a conference tie in at this point, as long as they can fill their schedule they have a pathway to CFP assuming they can finish in the top 12 of the AP. Wouldn’t that be even easier with a carefully crafted schedule as an Indy?
 
Exit 4 said:
Oh yeah, well ND you are running out of new ideas to toxify this relationship further. The only thing left is leaving. Is that the plan now?

And if you leave, enjoy that B1G or SEC schedule.
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Feinbaum was adamant their resistance to join the system is the primary reason they god shafted. I tend to agree. Just join already - kill the Holier than Thou thing, it just doesn't have the same effect as it did.
 
OkaForPrez said:
Why do they need a conference tie in at this point, as long as they can fill their schedule they have a pathway to CFP assuming they can finish in the top 12 of the AP. Wouldn’t that be even easier with a carefully crafted schedule as an Indy?
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They need a conference for non-FB sports.
But the ACC needs ND more than the other way around.

You think the B12 wouldn't jump at the deal that ND has with the ACC?
 
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RuffRuff said:
Feinbaum was adamant their resistance to join the system is the primary reason they god shafted.
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I disagree. Who among the B1G SEC B12 ACC wants ND to join a conference?
I argue none of them.
If they did, they would be out there saying "ND needs to make a decision."
And yet silence.
Because they know if ND joins one, it will likely be their competitor, and thus they get weaker by comparison.
 
Vowelguy said:
I disagree. Who among the B1G SEC B12 ACC wants ND to join a conference?
I argue none of them.
If they did, they would be out there saying "ND needs to make a decision."
And yet silence.
Because they know if ND joins one, it will likely be their competitor, and thus they get weaker by comparison.
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Hasn’t the B10 been holding the door wide open for them for several decades?

I see the argument, but I think the SEC/B10 in general would rather that ND be part of “their” system, rather than the ACC tie-in, which is a conference they’re actively looking to leave behind.

The ACC/B12 would similarly be thrilled as it would give them a fighting chance (or at least more of one) in an environment where the Big 2 are waiting to strip them of their top teams and discard the rest.

Self-interest and greed are the only real drivers of these ships. Otherwise the decision-making in CR would have been vastly different so far.
 
Vowelguy said:
I disagree. Who among the B1G SEC B12 ACC wants ND to join a conference?
I argue none of them.
If they did, they would be out there saying "ND needs to make a decision."
And yet silence.
Because they know if ND joins one, it will likely be their competitor, and thus they get weaker by comparison.
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You fail to recognize the financial value it brings to the conference. None of this is about keeping out "good competition". Or else they'd bring Uconn in.
 
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