Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[WrenchFan69]

Why does the SunBelt need to add a school? They’ve got 13 if Tx St leaves. Neither LaTech nor WKU move the needle, have notable programs, nor are located in significant markets.

They don't need to, but they currently have divisions and may want to keep the divisions.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Sun Belt for Football only might be fun.

 

[UCFBfan]

So……
Who does the PAC think they are going to get? MWC is taking all the viable teams in the region.

I'm calling a BE flip 2.0 for Boise and SDSU. Just like it was a "done deal" with them going to the BE years ago, I think it's going to end up being a "done deal" with the PAC until they decide to flip back to the MW. Those MW teams have to be questioning their choice.....

 

[Urcea]

I'm calling a BE flip 2.0 for Boise and SDSU. Just like it was a "done deal" with them going to the BE years ago, I think it's going to end up being a "done deal" with the PAC until they decide to flip back to the MW. Those MW teams have to be questioning their choice.....

Why? Yes, things have not gone exactly according to plan, but the group in the PAC 7 are a much better and much more appealing group than the remnant MWC. I’m sure they’re bummed about losing out on Texas State, but let’s not pretend Texas State is a premium brand because demand for them is high - if they were, they would have already been in a conference.

 

[ZooCougar]

Why? Yes, things have not gone exactly according to plan, but the group in the PAC 7 are a much better and much more appealing group than the remnant MWC. I’m sure they’re bummed about losing out on Texas State, but let’s not pretend Texas State is a premium brand because demand for them is high - if they were, they would have already been in a conference.

Their issue is their remaining target schools can’t afford to pay a buyout. And they aren’t so good that it’s worth the debt. Plus they have a pile of money and everyone has their hand out.

 

[noeynox]

Their issue is their remaining target schools can’t afford to pay a buyout. And they aren’t so good that it’s worth the debt. Plus they have a pile of money and everyone has their hand out.

Just grab New Mexico State and call it a day I say. No need for an expensive buyout and they're in the footprint.

 

[WrenchFan69]

Just grab New Mexico State and call it a day I say. No need for an expensive buyout and they're in the footprint.

If they were considering NM State as a possibility, they would have gone for UTEP? 40 miles apart but in a way bigger city, higher ranked school with more history and a better stadium, part of one of the top university systems in the US.

 

[Urcea]

Their issue is their remaining target schools can’t afford to pay a buyout. And they aren’t so good that it’s worth the debt. Plus they have a pile of money and everyone has their hand out.

Yeah, I get that. They’re in a bit of a bind. Still a way better set of prospects together than back with the leftovers and UTEP

 

[noeynox]

If they were considering NM State as a possibility, they would have gone for UTEP? 40 miles apart but in a way bigger city, higher ranked school with more history and a better stadium, part of one of the top university systems in the US.

But if they are off to the Mountain West cause the MWC offered them better terms, go get NMSU. There really isn't a game changer school they can add for all sports, so might as well grab a state school in your footprint.

 

[Urcea]

 

[XStorrsion]

Poor UTEP and New Mexico St still can't get a MW invite

Poor get richer

 

[Urcea]

 

[WestCoastHusky]

This is the signal that we might get a FB only invite. This is also the right move for the PAC-12.

 

[Urcea]

 

[Chin Diesel]

Yeah, I get that. They’re in a bit of a bind. Still a way better set of prospects together than back with the leftovers and UTEP

There's precedent for what to do when you're in a bind and behind. Just gotta be willin' to bet your soul against gold.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Urcea]

Woof

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Isn't Tarleton in the middle of upgrading as we speak (could have sworn I read more than a year ago that they were making the move). This fell into place nicely for them.

 

[CL82]

There's precedent for what to do when you're in a bind and behind. Just gotta be willin' to bet your soul against gold.

Sometimes you just have to say "I'll take your bet, and you're going to regret, because I'm the best there's ever been."

 

[UConnTrumbull]

 

[Chin Diesel]

Again, when the P2 or P3 break away and form their own tournament, no one is questioning the validity of it because SDSU or Gonzaga isn't invited.

 

[How Sway?!]

Again, when the P2 or P3 break away and form their own tournament, no one is questioning the validity of it because SDSU or Gonzaga isn't invited.

San Diego state? Probably not

Gonzaga? Absolutely, they are a top 10 brand in the sport. People would definitely question their exclusion

 

[Rufus]

October 1, 2024 -

PAC-12 adds Gonzaga.

Mountain West adds UTEP.

PAC-12 wins the day.

 

[UConn Dan]

Texas State is on the clock. They have an offer from MWC and "interest" from PAC-12. My guess is the interest from PAC 12 is an offer with major concessions.

Surprised MWC is going after an FCS school vs. just grabbing NMSU.

 

[metsfan2323]

So the PAC now has enough teams to meet the criteria for being a conference if / when they announce UConn football only?

 

[Vowelguy]

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Surprised MWC is going after an FCS school vs. just grabbing NMSU.

if they get UTEP, Tex St, and Tarleton, that's 3 schools in TX which is not a terrible place to be.

 

[UConn Dan]

So the PAC now has enough teams to meet the criteria for being a conference if / when they announce UConn football only?

I believe technically they would need one more full member including football.

 

[XStorrsion]

So the PAC now has enough teams to meet the criteria for being a conference if / when they announce UConn football only?

Isn't the requirement 8 full members?

 

[metsfan2323]

Isn't the requirement 8 full members?

Gonzaga will be a full PAC member, they just don't have a football team, just like Providence is a full BE member sans baseball. Maybe, I don't know. Regardless, it seems like a dumb outdated rule that should be challenged.

 

[Vowelguy]

Isn't Tarleton in the middle of upgrading as we speak (could have sworn I read more than a year ago that they were making the move). This fell into place nicely for them.

Tarleton is in the UAC football conference (a combo of WAC & ASUN schools). The plan was for the conference to move up in next few years. (But they keep losing teams: 3 moved up to CUSA, 3 went back to Southland.) The conference has basically served as a signal "we are ready to move up."