Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[huskymedic]

 

[Vowelguy]

The way to force their hand is don't provide them a home for their olympic sports. The idea that someone has to or they will pick someone else for football is self defeating. They got that arrangement from the Big East and dropped the BE for the ACC in a NY minute. .

Thus proving my point. The ACC is not going to force ND to choose. If they do, they know ND will bail on them. Does that help the ACC? Hell no.

So tell me again why the ACC is going to give ND an ultimatum?

 

[UConnJim]

Streaming issue was the fact that Espn+ isn’t ripe. The Espn+ platform is atrocious user experience.

And, the money wasn’t here and for some sports UConn was on the hook for production value.

ESPN+ is a good experience IF you have the right cable system. I have Xfinity and Spectrum and ESPN+ is great on Xfinity and terrible on Spectrum.

In case anyone didn't notice, all of the recent conference media deals include a streaming component.

 

[uconnyankee]

Thus proving my point. The ACC is not going to force ND to choose. If they do, they know ND will bail on them. Does that help the ACC? Hell no.

So tell me again why the ACC is going to give ND an ultimatum?

It comes down to money. Always does.
The value proposition right now suggests ND with its scheduling is better than without.

Pushing on ND could force their hand and push them to Big 10. If ACC was certain ND wasn’t going there, they could play hardball.

I guess the question is, will ND go to Big 10? History says they wouldn’t, but there’s a lot of money on table.

ND going to ACC would give that league instant credibility and easily P3 status.
Would it stop Clemson and FSU from leaving?

 

[NE Football]

It all depends on how much money NBC gives ND to stay independent

 

[Vowelguy]

It all depends on how much money NBC gives ND to stay independent

ND doesn’t make that much from NBC. They are independent bc the alumni demand it.

Money absolutely matters but it’s NBCs money and alumni donations that are important.

 

[noeynox]

Thus proving my point. The ACC is not going to force ND to choose. If they do, they know ND will bail on them. Does that help the ACC? Hell no.

So tell me again why the ACC is going to give ND an ultimatum?

The ACC can't now, but they learned nothing about ND's relationship with the Big East. ND could have single handedly saved the Big East and chose not to. They can do the same for the ACC now, and will choose not to, BUT they have cojones to push for Cal and Stanford to be accepted. If the ACC collapses loke the PAC it will be interesting to see if the Big12 is its next host.

 

[noeynox]

Big 12 commissioner says conference not looking to expand further after Pac-12 additions

Big 12 Conference Commissioner Brett Yormark said that the conference is closed for business after reaching 16 schools.

www.azcentral.com

 

[Ha Who]

The ACC can't now, but they learned nothing about ND's relationship with the Big East. ND could have single handedly saved the Big East and chose not to. They can do the same for the ACC now, and will choose not to, BUT they have cojones to push for Cal and Stanford to be accepted. If the ACC collapses loke the PAC it will be interesting to see if the Big12 is its next host.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I don't think the ACC needs to do anything with Notre Dame. If, as I expect, the NIL and Transfer Portal continue to dilute talent across programs, the era of SEC dominance is coming to an end. The ACC has a long-term agreement and a fairly good roster of schools. Play it out.

 

[noeynox]

I don't blame Notre Dame. If conferences starting with the Big East allow them to half step, well they are going to half step because why wouldn't they?

 

[Vowelguy]

The ACC can't now, but they learned nothing about ND's relationship with the Big East. ND could have single handedly saved the Big East and chose not to. They can do the same for the ACC now, and will choose not to, BUT they have cojones to push for Cal and Stanford to be accepted. If the ACC collapses loke the PAC it will be interesting to see if the Big12 is its next host.

Who says they learned nothing ?
Again what discrete steps were they supposed to take? They’ve gotten ND FB games fir the past decade, and if ND wants to join a conference they are locked into the ACC for the next decade.

Would the ACC have been better without such a deal?

I get that no one wants ND to be independent, but the fact is that ND has skillfully played all sides so its position is quite secure.

 

[Vowelguy]

PAC 18?

 

[Patrick79]

Well now that the B12 expansion seems to be done for the moment, I just gotta say that although the revenue/money and the safe spot would have been nice (I would have taken it, don’t get me wrong)- that league is just lame . I just don’t think I could have gotten into football or bball games with that bunch of midwestern/western snoozer teams.

I hope/expect we’ll find a solid home in the future. Probably some satisfying re-configuration of the ACC/BE with middling revenue until the whole system breaks and looks completely different in a far off time. Until then the only thing we can do is enjoy the BE tourney (it’s a one of a kind event worth going to) and the Indy football schedule. Also the BE is looking to be a hell of an exciting and energetic place over the next couple of years. Will be fun to be a part of.

Cheers, and let’s continue to build on our tradition.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Big 12 commissioner says conference not looking to expand further after Pac-12 additions

Big 12 Conference Commissioner Brett Yormark said that the conference is closed for business after reaching 16 schools.

www.azcentral.com

does this mean an absolute no to UConn or is it a message to Stanford, Cal, Ore State and Wash State?

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Or football breaks off into its own conferences and UConn basketball has a good home in the Big East.

The best outcome for the next tv deal would be the Big East signs with Apple. Let’s start building a subscriber base sooner than later.

 

[Kolumbo]

PAC 18?

Of the 14 AAC programs it would leave out Charlotte, Tulsa and Wichita State. Seems like the AAC would simply say join us, or don't. 14 AAC + 4 PAC + SDSU, CSU, Boise, and ??? 22 is the number.

And as crazy as it sounds, is that a conference UConn would consider rejoining?

 

[greenday61892]

Would the ACC have been better without such a deal?

Truthfully, yes. Football is the only real value at ND for a conference and the ACC took them in everything but. The look of that is embarrassing to say the least. If another conference takes that same deal because you wouldn't let them have their cake and eat it too, point and laugh at them rather than fret that you didn't take a deal that literally only benefits ND.

 

[Bazz4A]

Of the 14 AAC programs it would leave out Charlotte, Tulsa and Wichita State. Seems like the AAC would simply say join us, or don't. 14 AAC + 4 PAC + SDSU, CSU, Boise, and ??? 22 is the number.

And as crazy as it sounds, is that a conference UConn would consider rejoining?

Yes - crazy

 

[Kolumbo]

Truthfully, yes. Football is the only real value at ND for a conference and the ACC took them in everything but. The look of that is embarrassing to say the least. If another conference takes that same deal because you wouldn't let them have their cake and eat it too, point and laugh at them rather than fret that you didn't take a deal that literally only benefits ND.

ND actually competes at a fairly high level in other Olympic sports and is a great fit for the ACC, as it was with the Big East. We mock them for hoops but the golden domers are golden. Lax champions. Women's hoops. Baseball. 26 varsity programs. Very similar to Stanford but supposedly better football.

That said, F ND

 

[Patrick79]

Of the 14 AAC programs it would leave out Charlotte, Tulsa and Wichita State. Seems like the AAC would simply say join us, or don't. 14 AAC + 4 PAC + SDSU, CSU, Boise, and ??? 22 is the number.

And as crazy as it sounds, is that a conference UConn would consider rejoining?

Hard pass

 

[WestHartHusk]

that conference is gross and there is no way in hell Cal/Stanford are joining up with UNT, UTSA, FAU, etc.

 

[CL82]

ESPN+ is a good experience IF you have the right cable system. I have Xfinity and Spectrum and ESPN+ is great on Xfinity and terrible on Spectrum.

In case anyone didn't notice, all of the recent conference media deals include a streaming component.

Isn't ESPN+ strictly streaming? I don't think it is part of any cable service.

 

[Urcea]

Burn it all to the ground. Hope G5s kill these stupid schools this year in football at every opportunity

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Burn it all to the ground. Hope G5s kill these stupid schools this year in football at every opportunity

This is unfortunate. Does this mean our only hope is waiting for the ACC to have an opening.