Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Vowelguy]

Are they allowed to stay the PAC since most of the conference left? And will they still get NCAA credits?

They can have a decent football conference if they pick off the top of the AAC and MWC. It's won't be worth any money but it'll be pretty good football kind of like the early 00s CUSA

The MW exit fee is too high. It’s the whole conference (or 9/12) or none.

 

[noeynox]

OK it's hilarious that the schools that want to leave are the ones holding other people back from expansion. This happens all the time and it's a joke.

Kind of Washington and Oregon being difficult in PAC negotiations.

 

[djct1999]

No one held them hostage and made them sign the media contract.

And things have changed and they want out. Why should they agree?

 

[buddy]

SMU vs. UConn for ACC

SMU US News Rank 72
UConn US News Rank 67 (we are better academically)

Academics are meaningless, especially to the ACC

 

[djct1999]

The Atlantic Carriage fee Conference
1953-2036. She lived a healthy life.

 

[UConnJim]

Wow. SMU is really about to be added before Uconn. Horrible football also and terrible in almost all other sports. Not to mention there’s only 10 people that watches them on TV. So why do fans of other school so quick to question Uconn’s accomplishment but no one mentions how terrible SMU is in pretty much all sports?

Supposedly, SMU is asking for no money and they would bring the Dallas/Fort Worth market for the ACC Network which would add ~$36 million to the ACC. If the ACC gets pro-rata for SMU from ESPN and SMU is taking zero, then adding SMU could add a total of ~$60 million to the ACC to be split among the rest of the schools. That is the only reason SMU is being considered.

 

[businesslawyer]

I think they likely have the data that shows Jane Dowe donated $15,000 and has season tickets in Hartford or John Smith has season tickets in Gampel and donated $17,000. No?

As for the the political side, you're right, who knows.

That data they have. They don’t know how much John Smith would give if they only played in Storrs, or how much more a Storrs season ticket holder would donate if they played all their games in Storrs.

 

[Waquoit]

I think they likely have the data that shows Jane Dowe donated $15,000 and has season tickets in Hartford or John Smith has season tickets in Gampel and donated $17,000. No?

How much for Benjamin Dover?

 

[JMick]

Supposedly, SMU is asking for no money and they would bring the Dallas/Fort Worth market for the ACC Network which would add ~$36 million to the ACC. If the ACC gets pro-rata for SMU from ESPN and SMU is taking zero, then adding SMU could add a total of ~$60 million to the ACC to be split among the rest of the schools. That is the only reason SMU is being considered.

It's wild to me that the ACCN would get picked up in Dallas just because SMU joins the conference. Is this really how the legacy cable deals are working? No wonder cable is dying.

Can't even get the Yankees on Comcast in the valley and SMU is going to get the ACCN added for all of Dallas?

 

[JeepCSC]

It's wild to me that the ACCN would get picked up in Dallas just because SMU joins the conference. Is this really how the legacy cable deals are working? No wonder cable is dying.

Can't even get the Yankees on Comcast in the valley and SMU is going to get the ACCN added for all of Dallas?

Did you never wonder how Rutgers got into the B10?

 

[king conn]

Did you never wonder how Rutgers got into the B10?

Times have changed since Rutgers

There is no way with cable bleeding that they will force full market prices on customers in DFW for SMU and the ACC network

They may carry it, but it will be pennies per month.

 

[CL82]

Trey Wallace key? IDK - but here is story with some numbers.....The yes votes are not done trying to work the no votes.

Hmmm interesting group of opposition. I wonder if this new addition would cause an opening of the contract and would require everyone to sign a GOR expansion.

 

[UConnJim]

Times have changed since Rutgers

There is no way with cable bleeding that they will force full market prices on customers in DFW for SMU and the ACC network

They may carry it, but it will be pennies per month.

ACC Network is probably already in the Dallas/Fort Worth market at an out of market rate (I didn't check) at more than a few pennies per month, say ~$0.35/month. Going to an in market rate could add $1/month.

Remember, the ACC is laser focused on how they can raise revenues in the short term, not on the LT viability of the conference. They are trying to keep FSU and Clemson happy.

 

[Vowelguy]

Remember, the ACC is laser focused on how they can raise revenues in the short term, not on the LT viability of the conference. They are trying to keep FSU and Clemson happy.

Odd strategy.
FSU Short-term unhappiness seems irrelevant bc of the GOR. Seminoles are stuck, happy or not.
Longterm happiness is what will determine conference viability.

 

[bendm]

Odd strategy.
FSU Short-term unhappiness seems irrelevant bc of the GOR. Seminoles are stuck, happy or not.
Longterm happiness is what will determine conference viability.

13 years is a long time. Wed all take an invite to the acc right now with no guarantee that the conference will exist in its present form in 13 years.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Does anybody even think more than 100,000 people in Texas would actually even think of tuning in an ACC game (whether SMU was playing or not)?

 

[businesslawyer]

Hmmm interesting group of opposition. I wonder if this new addition would cause an opening of the contract and would require everyone to sign a GOR expansion.

Well, if that’s true we know what is going on. Schools that are confident they will leave the ACC when the GOR is up at the latest don’t want to lose their veto power over the conference or their right to choke the conferences growth that they can use for leverage.

 

[noeynox]

Well, if that’s true we know what is going on. Schools that are confident they will leave the ACC when the GOR is up at the latest don’t want to lose their veto power over the conference or their right to choke the conferences growth that they can use for leverage.

Can't they admit new members and give them no voting powers over things like dissolution of the conference or anything GOR related? Would seem like the easy fix here.

 

[businesslawyer]

Can't they admit new members and give them no voting powers over things like dissolution of the conference or anything GOR related? Would seem like the easy fix here.

Yes, assuming the core 4 is only worried about the future and not trying to get something from the rest of the conference NOW.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Well, if that’s true we know what is going on. Schools that are confident they will leave the ACC when the GOR is up at the latest don’t want to lose their veto power over the conference or their right to choke the conferences growth that they can use for leverage.

Or maybe they are being rational that adding schools just to add schools is a bad strategy in a world where fans will need to care enough about a schedule to proactively subscribe.

 

[Sea Goat]

Disagree. At the time it was taken, there was an argument that, over an extended period of time, it was the second (to PSU) best football program in the Northeast and the best basketball program in the Northeast. Regardless of whether Syracuse “owns” a material TV market, it was a perfectly rational move to extend the ACC’s brand north from Maryland.

I think if the subject expansion had been made 10 years earlier, you are right. By 2011, however, we had just won our 3rd Natty in BB and were beating SU five straight in FB. SU has had 1 BB Natty period and spotty FB performance since then. In sum, there were other forces at work. If the decision was made on performance, support and trajectory, we should have been taken.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

SMU has been to 2 ncaa tournaments in 30 years and only got there because Larry Brown was sketchy as hell.

 

[phillionaire]

SMU never won CUSA and never won the AAC in football but yeah they’re some sleeping giant

 

[Exit 4]

Well well well- found an NIL source and a new home for UConn gear.

 

[upstater]

Well well well- found an NIL source and a new home for UConn gear.

Don't laugh. Giorgio Armani is now the uniform maker for some soccer teams