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CL82 said:
Hard to say. Randy wasn't the most charismatic guy. I'm not sure how inclusive he would've been.

Agreed though that RE1 was the golden era of Connecticut football. I remember people saying that it might take a decade before we would have a winning record and then everything seemed to come together perfectly. We seemed to be on an upward trend that would make us consistently a ranked program. Then we got the Pasqualone/Diaco doubleheader and all that momentum was wasted. We brought back Randy to stabilize the program and it turned out the game had passed him by.

Hopefully, Mora can pull us out of the hole and bring us back at least to respectability. I am cautiously optimistic given the influx of talent that we've seen, but I will remain skeptical until it translates to on the field success. We've been burned too many times.
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It was worse than that. We also got screwed conference wise in 2011 and 2012 and had to decamp to the dreadful AAC. We were in a BCS Bowl on 1/1/2011, in the midst of a 5 game win streak vs. Syracuse, and won our 3rd Natty in hoops on 4/4/2011. Then RE left and the conference crap started. To make matters worse, Warde Manuel (Susan Herbst's "rock star") was hired as AD after Hathaway was canned. It was a perfect storm.

Through it all, we have adjusted and actually strengthened our hoops program, but football suffered. If football is going to make a return to competence, it will be because of a new conferences affiliation. Mora is doing as good as he can under the circumstances, but football needs a conference. If BB is taken over by the university participants ala CFP, that money will make us attractive to any conference. If so structured, March Madness will become the economic engine that will be our ticket to a real conference.
 
Sea Goat said:
It was worse than that. We also got screwed conference wise in 2011 and 2012 and had to decamp to the dreadful AAC. We were in a BCS Bowl on 1/1/2011, in the midst of a 5 game win streak vs. Syracuse, and won our 3rd Natty in hoops on 4/4/2011. Then RE left and the conference crap started. To make matters worse, Warde Manuel (Susan Herbst's "rock star") was hired as AD after Hathaway was canned. It was a perfect storm.

Through it all, we have adjusted and actually strengthened our hoops program, but football suffered. If football is going to make a return to competence, it will be because of a new conferences affiliation. Mora is doing as good as he can under the circumstances, but football needs a conference. If BB is taken over by the university participants ala CFP, that money will make us attractive to any conference. If so structured, March Madness will become the economic engine that will be our ticket to a real conference.
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Mora has made it clear that he perceives not being in a conference and not having an on campus stadium as two huge disadvantages at Connecticut at the Stamford roadshow. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think he used the phrase "nearly insurmountable" regarding the double whammy of those two circumstances.
 
CL82 said:
Hard to say. Randy wasn't the most charismatic guy. I'm not sure how inclusive he would've been.

Agreed though that RE1 was the golden era of Connecticut football. I remember people saying that it might take a decade before we would have a winning record and then everything seemed to come together perfectly. We seemed to be on an upward trend that would make us consistently a ranked program. Then we got the Pasqualone/Diaco doubleheader and all that momentum was wasted. We brought back Randy to stabilize the program and it turned out the game had passed him by.

Hopefully, Mora can pull us out of the hole and bring us back at least to respectability. I am cautiously optimistic given the influx of talent that we've seen, but I will remain skeptical until it translates to on the field success. We've been burned too many times.
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It’s not hard to say.

Randy would have been awful in the NIL era. Imagine Dabo Swinney only with no talent and no charisma.
 
king conn said:
Both things he was well aware of and never cried about when he took over and lead us to a surprisingly good first season

When he laid an egg in year two it became a catastrophic thing

As if being in the MAC or CUSA would solve all his problems lol
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No… lack of NIL was a “catastrophic” thing (until he pitched a bitch after last year) - the lack of stadium/conference is just a “huge challenge”.
 
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king conn said:
Both things he was well aware of and never cried about when he took over and lead us to a surprisingly good first season

When he laid an egg in year two it became a catastrophic thing

As if being in the MAC or CUSA would solve all his problems lol
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He wanted a coaching job. After doing this for a couple of seasons reality is setting in.

Hopefully it’s just Jim being Jim. He uses extreme words to make a point; which I can relate to. But it sure sounds like he is disenchanted with not having two very basic things that a program needs.

If he wins a bunch of games that place will fill up and the off campus piece won’t seem so bad in my opinion.
 
huskymedic said:
No… lack of NIL was a “catastrophic” thing (until he pitched a bitch) - the lack of stadium/conference is a huge challenge.
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I guess it is a year to year thing to be challenged by it.
Didn't bother his first year players to play Indy and off campus.

Nor the recent highly ranked portal class. I would argue they likely wouldn't have come to face a skid of MAC or CUSA teams
 
king conn said:
I guess it is a year to year thing to be challenged by it.
Didn't bother his first year players to play Indy and off campus.

Nor the recent highly ranked portal class. I would argue they likely wouldn't have come to face a skid of MAC or CUSA teams
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I agree king. Bitching about the stadium is just excuse making. I lost a bit of respect for him when he went there.
 
GoConn said:
I mean, he's not wrong.
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Yeah, he is. To make a thing out of something that's not going to change is a loser move. And did he bitch about not having an on-campus stadium at his last stop? I'm thinking no.
 
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Waquoit said:
Yeah, he is. To make a thing out of something that's not going to change is a loser move. And did he bitch about not having an on-campus stadium at his last stop? I'm thinking no.
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I would suggest that an attitude of "the way things are are the way they will always be" is the "loser move."

Jim Mora could have thrown up his hands and said "Oh well Connecticut will never get adequate NIL to compete against P4 programs for prospects. I won't bother trying and eventually the program will have to move out of FBS ball." Instead, he called out the shortcoming and by doing so became a catalyst for change. That's "a winner move" not "a loser move."

I think we are seeing more of that right now regarding him calling out the impact that not having an on-campus stadium has on our program. For what it's worth, with less than 10 years left on the useful life of Rentschler Field, now is exactly the time to start making the case for an on-campus stadium.
 
UConnJim said:
You need to look closer at the math. FSU in the SEC would produce much higher ratings than they do playing most ACC opponents and be more valuable to ESPN. Here is an example from last year:

FSU/LSU: 9.17 million viewers
FSU/Florida: 5.07 million viewers

Syracuse/FSU: 2.09 million viewers
FSU/Wake Forest: 2.09 million viewers

Granted, there is a fixed revenue stream from monthly fees for ESPN, but there are also advertising rights which would be worth more than 2x in the SEC over the ACC. And, as sports move to streaming, brands will be more important and FSU is a top brand. I would think that FSU's overall media rights are probably worth almost 2x in the SEC over the ACC due to more compelling opponents.

And, for those of you who think the SEC would ever allow FSU to go to the Big 10, you are wrong. FSU+Florida would mean the SEC dominates Florida like they dominate Texas with Texas+Texas A&M.
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I thought about why the SEC would add FSU and from one perspective it seems redundant.
However the alternative of the B1G planting a flag in. Florida is reason enough to add them.
If a smaller states like Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee could have multiple teams a state as large as Florida can and why not have two in South Carolina also
There is something to be said for completely owning a Market
Market penetration depth in a lucrative market is as important as width which seems to be the B1G strategy .
Continuing on that theme adding Miami , Georgia Tech, plus a third Texas team seem logical.
That only leaves only Oklahoma , Arkansas , Missouri , Kentucky , and Louisiana for future additions .
 
Waquoit said:
Yeah, he is. To make a thing out of something that's not going to change is a loser move. And did he bitch about not having an on-campus stadium at his last stop? I'm thinking no.
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He complained about a lot of the lack of support he received at UCLA so this isn’t making the point you think it is

Also, he’s the head coach of the school’s football team. It’s his job to advocate for his program and team. Not to mention the fact that he’s right.
 
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GoConn said:
Mora is telling people what they NEED to hear. We need a real on campus stadium, a conference and more financial support to be taken seriously as a football program.
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He's gotten everything hes asked for within reason. Let's not forget we are coming off a 3 win season. I mean, how many winning seasons did it take Penders to finally get a D1 stadium built.

Mora has gotten the NIL support he asked for and it's already paying fruits in recruiting. Now let's see that translate to on filed success. His comments will come off better and have a bigger impact coming off of back to back 7+ winning seasons than after a 3 win season.
 
How Sway?! said:
He's gotten everything hes asked for within reason. Let's not forget we are coming off a 3 win season. I mean, how many winning seasons did it take Penders to finally get a D1 stadium built.

Mora has gotten the NIL support he asked for and it's already paying fruits in recruiting. Now let's see that translate to on filed success. His comments will come off better and have a bigger impact coming off of back to back 7+ winning seasons than after a 3 win season.
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Agree, Mora needs to win 7 games this year and I do think it is possible.
 
Drew said:
He complained about a lot of the lack of support he received at UCLA so this isn’t making the point you think it is

Also, he’s the head coach of the school’s football team. It’s his job to advocate for his program and team. Not to mention the fact that he’s right.
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So that's a no, he didn't complain about an off-campus stadium as far as you know. Whining about the stadium isn't advocating for his program, it sounds like part of an exit strategy to me. Bob Diaco never whined about the The Rent. He said he got all he needed fron UConn, he just didn't execute.
 
GoConn said:
Mora is telling people what they NEED to hear. We need a real on campus stadium, a conference and more financial support to be taken seriously as a football program.
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Like I used to ask all the time, how much are you kicking in? Here's the deal as I see it, if the state comes up with an extra say $300M for UConn what should they do with it? Build an on-campus stadium or use it on academics?
 
Waquoit said:
Like I used to ask all the time, how much are you kicking in? Here's the deal as I see it, if the state comes up with an extra say $300M for UConn what should they do with it? Build an on-campus stadium or use it on academics?
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Both. New on-campus stadium which includes pt labs, study halls, concerts and other student activity centers. Including wifi.
 
Kolumbo said:
Both. New on-campus stadium which includes pt labs, study halls, concerts and other student activity centers. Including wifi.
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All those things already exist on campus, including wifi
 
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Waquoit said:
So that's a no, he didn't complain about an off-campus stadium as far as you know. Whining about the stadium isn't advocating for his program, it sounds like part of an exit strategy to me. Bob Diaco never whined about the The Rent. He said he got all he needed fron UConn, he just didn't execute.
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Of all the posts I never expected to see on the board, this one has to be pretty much at the top of the list:

"Why can't Jim Mora be more like Bob Diaco?"
:eek:
 
Kolumbo said:
Both. New on-campus stadium which includes pt labs, study halls, concerts and other student activity centers. Including wifi.
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I feel like we've got that covered at other venues. Particularly because Shenkman and Burton buildings, I feel like an on-campus stadium would be as "cost-effective" as his possible since a lot of the support things that would be thrown into a new build already exist on campus.
 
How Sway?! said:
All those things already exist on campus, including wifi
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I must have missed all the stadium concerts. Bottom line, the facility would be used year round, not just a few weekends.

CL82 said:
I feel like we've got that covered at other venues. Particularly because Shenkman and Burton buildings, I feel like an on-campus stadium would be as "cost-effective" as his possible since a lot of the support things that would be thrown into a new build already exist on campus.
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Yeah, we did it wrong but it can always be corrected. All the football offices and support could have been built into the stadium rather than a separate training facility. I think the practice facility has great locker rooms but they have to duplicate them in East Hartford to be used 6 times a year. They could always give or share Shenkman with the soccer and baseball teams. And UConn Lax.
 
superjohn said:
You realize the men's basketball team plays games in a dump in Hartford, right?
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You realize when recruits visit campus they actually get to see their home arena, Gampel Pavilion, right? I hope they aren't driving down Route 44 just to show football recruits where they could potentially play.

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