Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[JMick]

Supposedly, SMU is asking for no money and they would bring the Dallas/Fort Worth market for the ACC Network which would add ~$36 million to the ACC. If the ACC gets pro-rata for SMU from ESPN and SMU is taking zero, then adding SMU could add a total of ~$60 million to the ACC to be split among the rest of the schools. That is the only reason SMU is being considered.

It's wild to me that the ACCN would get picked up in Dallas just because SMU joins the conference. Is this really how the legacy cable deals are working? No wonder cable is dying.

Can't even get the Yankees on Comcast in the valley and SMU is going to get the ACCN added for all of Dallas?

 

[JeepCSC]

It's wild to me that the ACCN would get picked up in Dallas just because SMU joins the conference. Is this really how the legacy cable deals are working? No wonder cable is dying.

Can't even get the Yankees on Comcast in the valley and SMU is going to get the ACCN added for all of Dallas?

Did you never wonder how Rutgers got into the B10?

 

[king conn]

Did you never wonder how Rutgers got into the B10?

Times have changed since Rutgers

There is no way with cable bleeding that they will force full market prices on customers in DFW for SMU and the ACC network

They may carry it, but it will be pennies per month.

 

[CL82]

Trey Wallace key? IDK - but here is story with some numbers.....The yes votes are not done trying to work the no votes.

Hmmm interesting group of opposition. I wonder if this new addition would cause an opening of the contract and would require everyone to sign a GOR expansion.

 

[UConnJim]

Times have changed since Rutgers

There is no way with cable bleeding that they will force full market prices on customers in DFW for SMU and the ACC network

They may carry it, but it will be pennies per month.

ACC Network is probably already in the Dallas/Fort Worth market at an out of market rate (I didn't check) at more than a few pennies per month, say ~$0.35/month. Going to an in market rate could add $1/month.

Remember, the ACC is laser focused on how they can raise revenues in the short term, not on the LT viability of the conference. They are trying to keep FSU and Clemson happy.

 

[Vowelguy]

Remember, the ACC is laser focused on how they can raise revenues in the short term, not on the LT viability of the conference. They are trying to keep FSU and Clemson happy.

Odd strategy.
FSU Short-term unhappiness seems irrelevant bc of the GOR. Seminoles are stuck, happy or not.
Longterm happiness is what will determine conference viability.

 

[bendm]

Odd strategy.
FSU Short-term unhappiness seems irrelevant bc of the GOR. Seminoles are stuck, happy or not.
Longterm happiness is what will determine conference viability.

13 years is a long time. Wed all take an invite to the acc right now with no guarantee that the conference will exist in its present form in 13 years.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Does anybody even think more than 100,000 people in Texas would actually even think of tuning in an ACC game (whether SMU was playing or not)?

 

[businesslawyer]

Hmmm interesting group of opposition. I wonder if this new addition would cause an opening of the contract and would require everyone to sign a GOR expansion.

Well, if that’s true we know what is going on. Schools that are confident they will leave the ACC when the GOR is up at the latest don’t want to lose their veto power over the conference or their right to choke the conferences growth that they can use for leverage.

 

[noeynox]

Well, if that’s true we know what is going on. Schools that are confident they will leave the ACC when the GOR is up at the latest don’t want to lose their veto power over the conference or their right to choke the conferences growth that they can use for leverage.

Can't they admit new members and give them no voting powers over things like dissolution of the conference or anything GOR related? Would seem like the easy fix here.

 

[businesslawyer]

Can't they admit new members and give them no voting powers over things like dissolution of the conference or anything GOR related? Would seem like the easy fix here.

Yes, assuming the core 4 is only worried about the future and not trying to get something from the rest of the conference NOW.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Well, if that’s true we know what is going on. Schools that are confident they will leave the ACC when the GOR is up at the latest don’t want to lose their veto power over the conference or their right to choke the conferences growth that they can use for leverage.

Or maybe they are being rational that adding schools just to add schools is a bad strategy in a world where fans will need to care enough about a schedule to proactively subscribe.

 

[Sea Goat]

Disagree. At the time it was taken, there was an argument that, over an extended period of time, it was the second (to PSU) best football program in the Northeast and the best basketball program in the Northeast. Regardless of whether Syracuse “owns” a material TV market, it was a perfectly rational move to extend the ACC’s brand north from Maryland.

I think if the subject expansion had been made 10 years earlier, you are right. By 2011, however, we had just won our 3rd Natty in BB and were beating SU five straight in FB. SU has had 1 BB Natty period and spotty FB performance since then. In sum, there were other forces at work. If the decision was made on performance, support and trajectory, we should have been taken.

 

[Dream Jobbed 2.0]

SMU has been to 2 ncaa tournaments in 30 years and only got there because Larry Brown was sketchy as hell.

 

[phillionaire]

SMU never won CUSA and never won the AAC in football but yeah they’re some sleeping giant

 

[Exit 4]

Well well well- found an NIL source and a new home for UConn gear.

 

[upstater]

Well well well- found an NIL source and a new home for UConn gear.

Don't laugh. Giorgio Armani is now the uniform maker for some soccer teams

 

[coachcap]

Well well well- found an NIL source and a new home for UConn gear.

Irony of ironies. Wouldn't it be something if this new entity also acquired say Reebok, entered the sports uniform & clothing industry, & became a major rival to Nike? The ladies shopping contingent would be all over anything associated with Versace: fashion, size fit, style. Oh, & outrageous color combinations.

 

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[phillionaire]

Don't laugh. Giorgio Armani is now the uniform maker for some soccer teams

Bring back the Aeropostale football uniforms!

 

[noeynox]

SMU has been to 2 ncaa tournaments in 30 years and only got there because Larry Brown was sketchy as hell.

These are the types of things that really show this is mostly a good ole boys club. SMU ain't delivering no goshdarn Dallas market.

 

[Exit 4]

These are the types of things that really show this is mostly a good ole boys club. SMU ain't delivering no goshdarn Dallas market.

I feel SMU has two purposes. Get the ACC into a second time zone/new cable boxes and get the ACC into a massive football recruiting ground. They have no other purpose.

If the ACC could take Houston they would.

 

[CL82]

Well well well- found an NIL source and a new home for UConn gear.

Hmmm, possible names of a future on campus football stadium?

Crevoiserat Stadium, has a nice ring to it. It just rolls right off the tongue. For what it's worth I also find Tapestry Stadium to be an acceptable answer.

 

[djct1999]

I feel SMU has two purposes. Get the ACC into a second time zone/new cable boxes and get the ACC into a massive football recruiting ground. They have no other purpose.

If the ACC could take Houston they would.

Smu won’t deliver the recruiting ground either. That is so overstated.

 

[noeynox]

I feel SMU has two purposes. Get the ACC into a second time zone/new cable boxes and get the ACC into a massive football recruiting ground. They have no other purpose.

If the ACC could take Houston they would.

Except they could have and never did. This just has the feel of a pick up basketball game, where we are the last ones to get called and the captain is looking around and sees a grandma on the bench and asks her to play rather than ask us.