Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Exit 4]

Smu won’t deliver the recruiting ground either. That is so overstated.

Disagree. It helps expand for all existing ACC members. Nebraska lost its recruiting ways moving from the B12 to the B1G- Texas gone/program down.

 

[Exit 4]

Except they could have and never did. This just has the feel of a pick up basketball game, where we are the last ones to get called and the captain is looking around and sees a grandma on the bench and asks her to play rather than ask us.

You know why they didn’t- because the ACC internally has conflicting vision. They are not unified.

As for picking Grandma- yep, no denying that. SMU is Granny that happens to own a gym y’all can use to practice in. Granny doesn’t bring game- she brings real estate.

 

[JeepCSC]

The ACC tried to get into Texas before, but SMU is definitely not the way to do it.

 

[Exit 4]

The ACC tried to get into Texas before, but SMU is definitely not the way to do it.

Well they f u n k’d up because they waited too long and all that is left is Granny.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Disagree. It helps expand for all existing ACC members. Nebraska lost its recruiting ways moving from the B12 to the B1G- Texas gone/program down.

No it doesn't. Not in a state with 6 P4 teams. The ACC will never crack Texas, which is why they never bothered with Houston. Houston was there for the taking all along and is much better than SMU (it's also technically on the Atlantic coast). This SMU thing is nonsense, they will probably end up with the PAC schools.

 

[CL82]

Houston was there for the taking all along and is much better than SMU (it's also technically on the Atlantic coast).

 

[Exit 4]

No it doesn't. Not in a state with 6 P4 teams. The ACC will never crack Texas, which is why they never bothered with Houston. Houston was there for the taking all along and is much better than SMU (it's also technically on the Atlantic coast). This SMU thing is nonsense, they will probably end up with the PAC schools.

A state with 29MM people that added the equivalent of nearly 3 entire CTs in 20 years. A state that is madly in love with football at the HS level. SMU might not happen for many reasons, but there is no denying it is on the table. Now it might get kicked off the table today after this ACC meeting, but for this week it has been a thing.

Look, I am no fan of SMU, but I get why its being discussed. The ACC needs to avoid the pitfalls of the P12 and one of those is being too centered in one time zone.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Which part?

 

[CL82]

Which part?

"Technically on the Atlantic coast." Pretty sure it's considered Gulf Coast.

 

[HuskyHawk]

A state with 29MM people that added the equivalent of nearly 3 entire CTs in 20 years. A state that is madly in love with football at the HS level. SMU might not happen for many reasons, but there is no denying it is on the table. Now it might get kicked off the table today after this ACC meeting, but for this week it has been a thing.

I don't know if it's on the table, I simply know that if you walk into a sports bar in Texas, it will be tuned to SEC and Big XII games, no matter what. SMU isn't changing that, whether in the American, ACC or New PAC.

 

[Exit 4]

I don't know if it's on the table, I simply know that if you walk into a sports bar in Texas, it will be tuned to SEC and Big XII games, no matter what. SMU isn't changing that, whether in the American, ACC or New PAC.

Of course not. No one has realistic goals to achieve that.

 

[Rufus]

Nebraska lost its recruiting ways moving from the B12 to the B1G- Texas gone/program down.

I hear this argument many times, but it simply isn't true. Nebraska was in the Big 8 until 1996 when it formed the Big 12. The Big 8 did not have any Texas schools as members. Nebraska was only in the same conference as Texas schools from 1996-2011, for a total of 15 years. Most of the great traditional powerhouse Nebraska programs came in the era of the Big 8 - where "home conference" recruiting was: Nebraska, Kansas, Colorado, Iowa, Oklahoma and Missouri. The Nebraska program has been down for awhile now, but its faults don't lie with not being in a conference with Texas.

 

[upstater]

Disagree. It helps expand for all existing ACC members. Nebraska lost its recruiting ways moving from the B12 to the B1G- Texas gone/program down.

Nebraska used to load up on recruits; that was their method. They used to dress 130 kids. No other school in the country was like that. I don't really know how they bypassed the 85 recruit limit, but that's how it was before entering the B1G

 

[noeynox]

Nebraska used to load up on recruits; that was their method. They used to dress 130 kids. No other school in the country was like that. I don't really know how they bypassed the 85 recruit limit, but that's how it was before entering the B1G

Instate Nebraska kids got free tuition, and their OL were all big farm boys from their instate walk on program. Nebraska HS football eventually faded due to numbers and now i believe most HSs just have 7 on 7.

Pretty sure it was something along those lines.

 

[HuskyHawk]

"Technically on the Atlantic coast." Pretty sure it's considered Gulf Coast.

Yes but The Gulf of Mexico (GOM) is a marginal sea of the Atlantic Ocean

 

[HuskyHawk]

I hear this argument many times, but it simply isn't true. Nebraska was in the Big 8 until 1996 when it formed the Big 12. The Big 8 did not have any Texas schools as members. Nebraska was only in the same conference as Texas schools from 1996-2011, for a total of 15 years. Most of the great traditional powerhouse Nebraska programs came in the era of the Big 8 - where "home conference" recruiting was: Nebraska, Kansas, Colorado, Iowa, Oklahoma and Missouri. The Nebraska program has been down for awhile now, but its faults don't lie with not being in a conference with Texas.

Instate Nebraska kids got free tuition, and their OL were all big farm boys from their instate walk on program. Nebraska HS football eventually faded due to numbers and now i believe most HSs just have 7 on 7.

Pretty sure it was something along those lines.

As a fan of the old Big 8 and a Nebraska fan, the reality is that the game changed. Those schools all featured dominant running games at their best. They had incredible OL talent from those local boys and got RBs from all over. The plains are windy, which is one reason why the Big 8 evolved to mostly avoid passing the ball and play great defense. As it all shifted to a passing game, Nebraska could never keep up. Even when they had some success somewhat more recently, the QBs ran the ball, like Eric Crouch.

Oklahoma obviously eventually embraced the passing game more successfully, but the fall off post Switzer was worse than anything Nebraska endured. Three failed coaches before they finally brought in Bob Stoops. It's almost odd that the Big XII became the opposite of what it was, now probably the most pass happy conference. All offense, not much D.

 

[huskymedic]

Shortcut

 

[UConnJim]

Disagree. It helps expand for all existing ACC members. Nebraska lost its recruiting ways moving from the B12 to the B1G- Texas gone/program down.

This is the recruiting myth about Nebraska. Nebraska was in the Big 8 until 1996 and the Big 8 had no presence in Texas as it was made up of: Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Kansas, Kansas St., Missouri, Colorado, Iowa St. I looked at Nebraska's roster from 1994 when they were in the Big 8, went 13-0, beat Miami in the Orange Bowl, and ended up ranked #1. By far, most of the players were from Nebraska, but the other states most represented on the roster:

California 12
New Jersey 6
Texas 6
Florida 5

And, in general, few of the top players in Nebraska history are from Texas except Turner Gill.

 

[Exit 4]

This is the recruiting myth about Nebraska. Nebraska was in the Big 8 until 1996 and the Big 8 had no presence in Texas as it was made up of: Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Kansas, Kansas St., Missouri, Colorado, Iowa St. I looked at Nebraska's roster from 1994 when they were in the Big 8, went 13-0, beat Miami in the Orange Bowl, and ended up ranked #1. By far, most of the players were from Nebraska, but the other states most represented on the roster:

California 12
New Jersey 6
Texas 6
Florida 5

And, in general, few of the top players in Nebraska history are from Texas except Turner Gill.

Fine. Texas has no value in recruiting.

Nebraska Football: New staffer believes Texas recruiting dropoff tied to Huskers decline

New Nebraska football CEO Susan Elza thinks there is a direct correlation between the Huskers' decline and the dropoff in Texas recruiting.

huskercorner.com

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Iowa ST confirmed UConn was part of the plan, and then it wasn't on that Friday morning. I suspect the 3 corner schools forced themselves in as a package.

ISU AD Hints That UConn Was Part of Big 12's Expansion Focus

After Colorado made the jump to the Big 12 around two weeks ago, the public’s focus shifted to the rest of the Pac-12 and where they might end up. Sure, there was noise about UConn potentially coming in as the 14th school, but there wasn’t any validity to that, right? You bet there was. That […]

www.heartlandcollegesports.com

 

[huskypantz]

Yes but The Gulf of Mexico (GOM) is a marginal sea of the Atlantic Ocean

Take it to the geography thread!

 

[UConnJim]

Fine. Texas has no value in recruiting.

Nebraska Football: New staffer believes Texas recruiting dropoff tied to Huskers decline

New Nebraska football CEO Susan Elza thinks there is a direct correlation between the Huskers' decline and the dropoff in Texas recruiting.

huskercorner.com

I didn't say don't recruit Texas. What I said was Texas was not a big recruiting ground for Nebraska when they were in the Big 8 and not playing in Texas and when they were winning championships. Nebraska was recruiting nationally due to their success.

I still remember Nebraska recruiting Doug DuBose from Montville High in Oakdale and he had two 1,000 yard seasons for the Cornhuskers.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Iowa ST confirmed UConn was part of the plan, and then it wasn't on that Friday morning. I suspect the 3 corner schools forced themselves in as a package.

ISU AD Hints That UConn Was Part of Big 12's Expansion Focus

After Colorado made the jump to the Big 12 around two weeks ago, the public’s focus shifted to the rest of the Pac-12 and where they might end up. Sure, there was noise about UConn potentially coming in as the 14th school, but there wasn’t any validity to that, right? You bet there was. That […]

www.heartlandcollegesports.com

Which of course means Arizona was really the plan. The Big 12 didn't have to accept the package deal.

 

[Urcea]

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That's a shame. The MWC should at least buy the PAC name if not its obligations

 

[CL82]

Yes but The Gulf of Mexico (GOM) is a marginal sea of the Atlantic Ocean

Thus your reference to Houston being on the Atlantic ocean was only "marginally" correct.