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Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

A state with 29MM people that added the equivalent of nearly 3 entire CTs in 20 years. A state that is madly in love with football at the HS level. SMU might not happen for many reasons, but there is no denying it is on the table. Now it might get kicked off the table today after this ACC meeting, but for this week it has been a thing.
I don't know if it's on the table, I simply know that if you walk into a sports bar in Texas, it will be tuned to SEC and Big XII games, no matter what. SMU isn't changing that, whether in the American, ACC or New PAC.
 
I don't know if it's on the table, I simply know that if you walk into a sports bar in Texas, it will be tuned to SEC and Big XII games, no matter what. SMU isn't changing that, whether in the American, ACC or New PAC.
Of course not. No one has realistic goals to achieve that.
 
Nebraska lost its recruiting ways moving from the B12 to the B1G- Texas gone/program down.

I hear this argument many times, but it simply isn't true. Nebraska was in the Big 8 until 1996 when it formed the Big 12. The Big 8 did not have any Texas schools as members. Nebraska was only in the same conference as Texas schools from 1996-2011, for a total of 15 years. Most of the great traditional powerhouse Nebraska programs came in the era of the Big 8 - where "home conference" recruiting was: Nebraska, Kansas, Colorado, Iowa, Oklahoma and Missouri. The Nebraska program has been down for awhile now, but its faults don't lie with not being in a conference with Texas.
 
Disagree. It helps expand for all existing ACC members. Nebraska lost its recruiting ways moving from the B12 to the B1G- Texas gone/program down.
Nebraska used to load up on recruits; that was their method. They used to dress 130 kids. No other school in the country was like that. I don't really know how they bypassed the 85 recruit limit, but that's how it was before entering the B1G
 
Nebraska used to load up on recruits; that was their method. They used to dress 130 kids. No other school in the country was like that. I don't really know how they bypassed the 85 recruit limit, but that's how it was before entering the B1G
Instate Nebraska kids got free tuition, and their OL were all big farm boys from their instate walk on program. Nebraska HS football eventually faded due to numbers and now i believe most HSs just have 7 on 7.

Pretty sure it was something along those lines.
 
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I hear this argument many times, but it simply isn't true. Nebraska was in the Big 8 until 1996 when it formed the Big 12. The Big 8 did not have any Texas schools as members. Nebraska was only in the same conference as Texas schools from 1996-2011, for a total of 15 years. Most of the great traditional powerhouse Nebraska programs came in the era of the Big 8 - where "home conference" recruiting was: Nebraska, Kansas, Colorado, Iowa, Oklahoma and Missouri. The Nebraska program has been down for awhile now, but its faults don't lie with not being in a conference with Texas.
Instate Nebraska kids got free tuition, and their OL were all big farm boys from their instate walk on program. Nebraska HS football eventually faded due to numbers and now i believe most HSs just have 7 on 7.

Pretty sure it was something along those lines.
As a fan of the old Big 8 and a Nebraska fan, the reality is that the game changed. Those schools all featured dominant running games at their best. They had incredible OL talent from those local boys and got RBs from all over. The plains are windy, which is one reason why the Big 8 evolved to mostly avoid passing the ball and play great defense. As it all shifted to a passing game, Nebraska could never keep up. Even when they had some success somewhat more recently, the QBs ran the ball, like Eric Crouch.

Oklahoma obviously eventually embraced the passing game more successfully, but the fall off post Switzer was worse than anything Nebraska endured. Three failed coaches before they finally brought in Bob Stoops. It's almost odd that the Big XII became the opposite of what it was, now probably the most pass happy conference. All offense, not much D.
 
Disagree. It helps expand for all existing ACC members. Nebraska lost its recruiting ways moving from the B12 to the B1G- Texas gone/program down.
This is the recruiting myth about Nebraska. Nebraska was in the Big 8 until 1996 and the Big 8 had no presence in Texas as it was made up of: Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Kansas, Kansas St., Missouri, Colorado, Iowa St. I looked at Nebraska's roster from 1994 when they were in the Big 8, went 13-0, beat Miami in the Orange Bowl, and ended up ranked #1. By far, most of the players were from Nebraska, but the other states most represented on the roster:

California 12
New Jersey 6
Texas 6
Florida 5

And, in general, few of the top players in Nebraska history are from Texas except Turner Gill.
 
This is the recruiting myth about Nebraska. Nebraska was in the Big 8 until 1996 and the Big 8 had no presence in Texas as it was made up of: Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St., Kansas, Kansas St., Missouri, Colorado, Iowa St. I looked at Nebraska's roster from 1994 when they were in the Big 8, went 13-0, beat Miami in the Orange Bowl, and ended up ranked #1. By far, most of the players were from Nebraska, but the other states most represented on the roster:

California 12
New Jersey 6
Texas 6
Florida 5

And, in general, few of the top players in Nebraska history are from Texas except Turner Gill.
Fine. Texas has no value in recruiting.

 
Iowa ST confirmed UConn was part of the plan, and then it wasn't on that Friday morning. I suspect the 3 corner schools forced themselves in as a package.

 
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Fine. Texas has no value in recruiting.

I didn't say don't recruit Texas. What I said was Texas was not a big recruiting ground for Nebraska when they were in the Big 8 and not playing in Texas and when they were winning championships. Nebraska was recruiting nationally due to their success.

I still remember Nebraska recruiting Doug DuBose from Montville High in Oakdale and he had two 1,000 yard seasons for the Cornhuskers.
 
Iowa ST confirmed UConn was part of the plan, and then it wasn't on that Friday morning. I suspect the 3 corner schools forced themselves in as a package.

Which of course means Arizona was really the plan. The Big 12 didn't have to accept the package deal.
 
The B1G should buy the PAC-12 monicker "Conference of Champions" since the B1G is now the leader in overall national championships across all sports by bringing in the USC and UCLA titles.
 
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That's a shame. The MWC should at least buy the PAC name if not its obligations
Actually the PAC should buy the MW and still be the PAC
if you
Keep a playoff spot
Keep the $80million. Playoff distribution
Get a bump up on the MW media deal
Add Gonzaga as a BB only
Still call yourself P5

Stanford can buyout the MW with. a phone call.
 
Actually the PAC should buy the MW and still be the PAC
if you
Keep a playoff spot
Keep the $80million. Playoff distribution
Get a bump up on the MW media deal
Add Gonzaga as a BB only
Still call yourself P5

Stanford can buyout the MW with. a phone call.
Yeah I don't see the point of a merger when you can just offer whichever of the mountain west schools do you want to join the PAC-4.
 
I think Stanford would rather pay the BigEast 5 million per a school than join that mosh of teams. At least BE is a top bb conference men’s and women’s. There other sports the can put wherever usc and UCLA are. I don’t think Big has women’s beach volleyball.
 
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Yeah I don't see the point of a merger when you can just offer whichever of the mountain west schools do you want to join the PAC-4.
Because they have no media deal and the MWC penalty for premature withdrawal is $34 million. Right? I doubt there would be takers.
 

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