Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[GG]

I think the part he was incorrect about was that UCONN Is #14 no matter what. I suspect Arizona, ASU, and UTAH approached the B12 as a package of 3, which B12 gave in on. This changed the original game plan, and UCONN was SOL.

GoKU had us at 14, but Greg Flugar always said that we were behind Arizona, Arizona State and Utah. Greg also indicated that there was legitimate interest by Yormark. The disconnect with the order of priority schools is what confused me. Greg and GoKU have different sources. Perhaps what Yormark wanted differed from the presidents.

 

[Urcea]

GoKU had us at 14, but Greg Flugar always said that we were behind Arizona, Arizona State and Utah. Greg also indicated that there was legitimate interest by Yormark. The disconnect with the order of priority schools is what confused me. Greg and GoKU have different sources. Perhaps what Yormark wanted differed from the presidents.

What Iowa State’s guy and what GoKU was saying was pretty similar

 

[JMick]

Are these people dense? The Pac will stay the Pac and expand with some combination of MWC and AAC schools (Tulane, SMU). They aren't giving up the brand name and the NCAA credits.

Are they allowed to stay the PAC since most of the conference left? And will they still get NCAA credits?

They can have a decent football conference if they pick off the top of the AAC and MWC. It's won't be worth any money but it'll be pretty good football kind of like the early 00s CUSA

 

[Exit 4]

Trey Wallace key? IDK - but here is story with some numbers.....The yes votes are not done trying to work the no votes.

 

[JMick]

Trey Wallace key? IDK - but here is story with some numbers.....The yes votes are not done trying to work the no votes.

OK it's hilarious that the schools that want to leave are the ones holding other people back from expansion. This happens all the time and it's a joke.

 

[RSTuthill]

OK it's hilarious that the schools that want to leave are the ones holding other people back from expansion. This happens all the time and it's a joke.

And the corollary. Schools that just got in slamming the door behind them.

 

[djct1999]

OK it's hilarious that the schools that want to leave are the ones holding other people back from expansion. This happens all the time and it's a joke.

Why is that a joke? These have bigger paydays elsewhere and are being held hostage. It would be silly for them to vote yes and still wait 12 years for gor to expire.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Are they allowed to stay the PAC since most of the conference left? And will they still get NCAA credits?

They can have a decent football conference if they pick off the top of the AAC and MWC. It's won't be worth any money but it'll be pretty good football kind of like the early 00s CUSA

Yes. It’s what we did in the Big East/American too. MWC was already not that far behind the PAC aside from Oregon and USC. It would be a clear 5th best league.

 

[JMick]

Why is that a joke? These have bigger paydays elsewhere and are being held hostage. It would be silly for them to vote yes and still wait 12 years for gor to expire.

No one held them hostage and made them sign the media contract.

 

[Orc]

Trey Wallace key? IDK - but here is story with some numbers.....The yes votes are not done trying to work the no votes.

Wow. SMU is really about to be added before Uconn. Horrible football also and terrible in almost all other sports. Not to mention there’s only 10 people that watches them on TV. So why do fans of other school so quick to question Uconn’s accomplishment but no one mentions how terrible SMU is in pretty much all sports?

 

[Vowelguy]

Are they allowed to stay the PAC since most of the conference left? And will they still get NCAA credits?

They can have a decent football conference if they pick off the top of the AAC and MWC. It's won't be worth any money but it'll be pretty good football kind of like the early 00s CUSA

The MW exit fee is too high. It’s the whole conference (or 9/12) or none.

 

[noeynox]

OK it's hilarious that the schools that want to leave are the ones holding other people back from expansion. This happens all the time and it's a joke.

Kind of Washington and Oregon being difficult in PAC negotiations.

 

[djct1999]

No one held them hostage and made them sign the media contract.

And things have changed and they want out. Why should they agree?

 

[buddy]

SMU vs. UConn for ACC

SMU US News Rank 72
UConn US News Rank 67 (we are better academically)

Academics are meaningless, especially to the ACC

 

[djct1999]

The Atlantic Carriage fee Conference
1953-2036. She lived a healthy life.

 

[UConnJim]

Wow. SMU is really about to be added before Uconn. Horrible football also and terrible in almost all other sports. Not to mention there’s only 10 people that watches them on TV. So why do fans of other school so quick to question Uconn’s accomplishment but no one mentions how terrible SMU is in pretty much all sports?

Supposedly, SMU is asking for no money and they would bring the Dallas/Fort Worth market for the ACC Network which would add ~$36 million to the ACC. If the ACC gets pro-rata for SMU from ESPN and SMU is taking zero, then adding SMU could add a total of ~$60 million to the ACC to be split among the rest of the schools. That is the only reason SMU is being considered.

 

[Waquoit]

I think they likely have the data that shows Jane Dowe donated $15,000 and has season tickets in Hartford or John Smith has season tickets in Gampel and donated $17,000. No?

How much for Benjamin Dover?

 

[JMick]

Supposedly, SMU is asking for no money and they would bring the Dallas/Fort Worth market for the ACC Network which would add ~$36 million to the ACC. If the ACC gets pro-rata for SMU from ESPN and SMU is taking zero, then adding SMU could add a total of ~$60 million to the ACC to be split among the rest of the schools. That is the only reason SMU is being considered.

It's wild to me that the ACCN would get picked up in Dallas just because SMU joins the conference. Is this really how the legacy cable deals are working? No wonder cable is dying.

Can't even get the Yankees on Comcast in the valley and SMU is going to get the ACCN added for all of Dallas?

 

[JeepCSC]

It's wild to me that the ACCN would get picked up in Dallas just because SMU joins the conference. Is this really how the legacy cable deals are working? No wonder cable is dying.

Can't even get the Yankees on Comcast in the valley and SMU is going to get the ACCN added for all of Dallas?

Did you never wonder how Rutgers got into the B10?

 

[king conn]

Did you never wonder how Rutgers got into the B10?

Times have changed since Rutgers

There is no way with cable bleeding that they will force full market prices on customers in DFW for SMU and the ACC network

They may carry it, but it will be pennies per month.

 

[CL82]

Trey Wallace key? IDK - but here is story with some numbers.....The yes votes are not done trying to work the no votes.

Hmmm interesting group of opposition. I wonder if this new addition would cause an opening of the contract and would require everyone to sign a GOR expansion.

 

[UConnJim]

Times have changed since Rutgers

There is no way with cable bleeding that they will force full market prices on customers in DFW for SMU and the ACC network

They may carry it, but it will be pennies per month.

ACC Network is probably already in the Dallas/Fort Worth market at an out of market rate (I didn't check) at more than a few pennies per month, say ~$0.35/month. Going to an in market rate could add $1/month.

Remember, the ACC is laser focused on how they can raise revenues in the short term, not on the LT viability of the conference. They are trying to keep FSU and Clemson happy.

 

[Vowelguy]

Remember, the ACC is laser focused on how they can raise revenues in the short term, not on the LT viability of the conference. They are trying to keep FSU and Clemson happy.

Odd strategy.
FSU Short-term unhappiness seems irrelevant bc of the GOR. Seminoles are stuck, happy or not.
Longterm happiness is what will determine conference viability.

 

[bendm]

Odd strategy.
FSU Short-term unhappiness seems irrelevant bc of the GOR. Seminoles are stuck, happy or not.
Longterm happiness is what will determine conference viability.

13 years is a long time. Wed all take an invite to the acc right now with no guarantee that the conference will exist in its present form in 13 years.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Does anybody even think more than 100,000 people in Texas would actually even think of tuning in an ACC game (whether SMU was playing or not)?