Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[CL82]

I think you're ignoring the donations the school and seat licenses the school gets from playing in Hartford. They essentially get to double dip.

I suspect we'll never see the true data, but id love to see a donation breakdown between Gampel and Civic Center season ticket holders.

Now with all this said, I tend to agree it's not a good deal, but the worse part is how UConn accounts for it all. As @CL82 noted a lot of these expenses are just paper not cash out and something of the things the AD takes the expense for are kind of dubious as well.

The on campus stadium and deficit are such big talking points, that could pretty easily be resolved with a) 'committee' to investigate an on campus stadium, b) figure out a better way to spread the expenses out aside from parking it in the AD which makes the school like inept.

They are big talking points for us, I'm not sure how much bandwidth they occupy off of this board.

 

[Drew]

I think you're ignoring the donations the school and seat licenses the school gets from playing in Hartford. They essentially get to double dip.

I suspect we'll never see the true data, but id love to see a donation breakdown between Gampel and Civic Center season ticket holders.

Now with all this said, I tend to agree it's not a good deal, but the worse part is how UConn accounts for it all. As @CL82 noted a lot of these expenses are just paper not cash out and something of the things the AD takes the expense for are kind of dubious as well.

The on campus stadium and deficit are such big talking points, that could pretty easily be resolved with a) 'committee' to investigate an on campus stadium, b) figure out a better way to spread the expenses out aside from parking it in the AD which makes the school like inept.

For basketball tickets- couldn’t you just essentially combine the donation amounts for a full season if you moved to Gampel?

Why on Earth would anyone pay $2250 per ticket for 7-8 basketball games in the lower bowl of Gampel knowing 4 of those min are going to be against trash opponents? But you could probably get away with 4000 or so all in for lower Gampel with 16 home games (not sure how many they usually play) including the donation and ticket cost

I personally do not see the appeal of anything Hartford related for UConn other than “we’ve always done it this way”. Playing games in XL because they used to in the 90s or whatever is just stupid.

The school needs to come into some serious coin somehow (most likely a conference change), add a ton of revamped premium seating at Gampel, and move the games to campus. Anything else completely defies what collegiate athletics is about

 

[WestCoastHusky]

No, GoKU and/or his sources were way off. Yes, the Big Ten may well be scum, but everything that happened last week was well within the realm of possibility. So how anyone being an insider did not see this is beyond me. Really!?!

In any case, frankly the Big 12 should have picked UConn as 13 or 14, and tell the corner schools while they were f&rting around, that there are three spots left, and let the remaining school figure out with Cal and Stanford what to do next.

I think the part he was incorrect about was that UCONN Is #14 no matter what. I suspect Arizona, ASU, and UTAH approached the B12 as a package of 3, which B12 gave in on. This changed the original game plan, and UCONN was SOL.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I think the part he was incorrect about was that UCONN Is #14 no matter what. I suspect Arizona, ASU, and UTAH approached the B12 as a package of 3, which B12 gave in on. This changed the original game plan, and UCONN was SOL.

This is what I said ages ago. The four corner schools would always top the list. There are all sorts of historical reasons for it, but they wanted the AZ schools for decades, and obviously wanted Colorado back. Utah is needed to shore up football and restores a rivalry with BYU. What GoKU missed on was that they'd be available. Until Washington and Oregon got the go ahead, they wouldn't have been.

 

[JeepCSC]

GoKU didn’t miss on whether they’d be available. He was adamant Utah was not in play.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

For basketball tickets- couldn’t you just essentially combine the donation amounts for a full season if you moved to Gampel?

Why on Earth would anyone pay $2250 per ticket for 7-8 basketball games in the lower bowl of Gampel knowing 4 of those min are going to be against trash opponents? But you could probably get away with 4000 or so all in for lower Gampel with 16 home games (not sure how many they usually play) including the donation and ticket cost

I personally do not see the appeal of anything Hartford related for UConn other than “we’ve always done it this way”. Playing games in XL because they used to in the 90s or whatever is just stupid.

The school needs to come into some serious coin somehow (most likely a conference change), add a ton of revamped premium seating at Gampel, and move the games to campus. Anything else completely defies what collegiate athletics is about

That's kind of my point, there are likely donors that wouldn't make the trip to gampel. Not to mention the additional capacity at the Civic center is more seat licenses and potential donations.

I know it isn't a great but we're not in a position to turn away fans.

They are big talking points for us, I'm not sure how much bandwidth they occupy off of this board.

I saw that referenced a lot during realignment chatter saying UConn is broke.

 

[huskymedic]

P5

 

[Rufus]

Not many key tweets today. I'm going through key tweet withdrawal again.

 

[Rufus]

P5

If those teams are forced to join a Group of 5, the Mountain West is a better destination than the American.

 

[huskymedic]

If those teams are forced to join a Group of 5, the Mountain West is a better destination than the American.

But Aresco has the drums beating…

 

[Forte]

The ACC will not say no on the second vote tomorrow. Its obvious they will be admitted. People bend over backward for other the old guard.

 

[HuskyHawk]

P5

Are these people dense? The Pac will stay the Pac and expand with some combination of MWC and AAC schools (Tulane, SMU). They aren't giving up the brand name and the NCAA credits.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Are these people dense? The Pac will stay the Pac and expand with some combination of MWC and AAC schools (Tulane, SMU). They aren't giving up the brand name and the NCAA credits.

They won't give up the brand name or the credits but it will be very difficult for them to grab anyone from the MW. That conference just upped its departure fees to (I believe) $34 million. The new PAC won't make enough money for the move to be worth it for MW schools.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

GoKU didn’t miss on whether they’d be available. He was adamant Utah was not in play.

That's the part that screwed us. UTAH was all suddenly available and willing, which wasn't the case until that dreadful Friday morning.

 

[bendm]

Are these people dense? The Pac will stay the Pac and expand with some combination of MWC and AAC schools (Tulane, SMU). They aren't giving up the brand name and the NCAA credits.

PAC4 + MW + SMU & Tulane = PAC18

at least 9 of the 12 MW teams must leave to dissolve the conference and remove exit fees. i don't think they will leave 3 teams hanging and will require PAC to accept all 12.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I believe the B12 still wants UCONN. They simply haven't found the media partner yet to step up and pay for the UCONN addition. Once they find that, I believe we can still get in with another school.

 

[Ha Who]

I believe the B12 still wants UCONN. They simply haven't found the media partner yet to step up and pay for the UCONN addition. Once they find that, I believe we can still get in with another school.

 

[uconnyankee]

I believe the B12 still wants UCONN. They simply haven't found the media partner yet to step up and pay for the UCONN addition. Once they find that, I believe we can still get in with another school.

Does anyone think Memphis could be a good fit for Big 12?
Academically not strong, but they check a lot of other boxes including fan support.

Asking for a friend.

 

[CL82]

Hahaha... eph you!

 

[Exit 4]

Does anyone think Memphis could be a good fit for Big 12?
Academically not strong, but they check a lot of other boxes including fan support.

Asking for a friend.

It does compute.....sad to say.

 

[phillionaire]

maybe the real power conference is the friends we made along the way

 

[Exit 4]

maybe the real power conference is the friends we made along the way

Looking around, has UConn made any friends? Doesn't seem like it. I think we put W h a l e r on the friendship committee years ago and that was that.

 

[pj]

PAC4 + MW + SMU & Tulane = PAC18

at least 9 of the 12 MW teams must leave to dissolve the conference and remove exit fees. i don't think they will leave 3 teams hanging and will require PAC to accept all 12.

Right now the MW has a favorable media contract, negotiated near the peak of the market. If they rip up the MW conference, that media deal goes away and this new Pac18 would have to negotiate a new one in a down period for the market. Why would this collection of schools do well?

If Stanford and Cal can't get into a major conference then they may have to get creative with an undersize conference and some kind of scheduling alliance with other leagues to add games.

 

[Samoo]

That sounds like out of state tuition.

Nope, but it includes housing, food, books etc.

 

[HobokenHusky]

That's not what is going on.

They can't add UConn with this much time left in the GOR because they are looking for votes to break the GOR. They know UConn would be aligned against that since the schools that would favor UConn are definitely not FSU and Clemson.

The closer you get to the end of the GOR, the more these votes begin to matter much much less.

I bet the prospect of additions to the league is being resisted by the northeast schools plus Wake Forest and Georgia Tech, Louisville as well.

We have to remember that the ACC has split allegiances and that this makes agreement on added members difficult.

Yea, there is not some grudge here. There likely was in the past, but it's confirmed they almost added us in 2011 or whenever Ville was added. This is all self-preservation. Those schools were smart to bend to FSU and Clemson at that time, it got them the GOR and as a result a dozen years of borrowed time. At this point we need to tread water finance wise and we will end up in a Duke/Cuse/Pitt/Wake conference whenever the ACC football powers figure out how to break free.