CL82
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It does compute.....sad to say.Does anyone think Memphis could be a good fit for Big 12?
Academically not strong, but they check a lot of other boxes including fan support.
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Looking around, has UConn made any friends? Doesn't seem like it. I think we put W h a l e r on the friendship committee years ago and that was that.maybe the real power conference is the friends we made along the way
PAC4 + MW + SMU & Tulane = PAC18
at least 9 of the 12 MW teams must leave to dissolve the conference and remove exit fees. i don't think they will leave 3 teams hanging and will require PAC to accept all 12.
Nope, but it includes housing, food, books etc.That sounds like out of state tuition.
That's not what is going on.
They can't add UConn with this much time left in the GOR because they are looking for votes to break the GOR. They know UConn would be aligned against that since the schools that would favor UConn are definitely not FSU and Clemson.
The closer you get to the end of the GOR, the more these votes begin to matter much much less.
I bet the prospect of additions to the league is being resisted by the northeast schools plus Wake Forest and Georgia Tech, Louisville as well.
We have to remember that the ACC has split allegiances and that this makes agreement on added members difficult.
Nope. Next.Does anyone think Memphis could be a good fit for Big 12?
Academically not strong, but they check a lot of other boxes including fan support.
Asking for a friend.
you dont think that group of 18 could do better than the 4 mill per year per school the MW contract provides or the 5 mill per year per school the AAC gets?Right now the MW has a favorable media contract, negotiated near the peak of the market. If they rip up the MW conference, that media deal goes away and this new Pac18 would have to negotiate a new one in a down period for the market. Why would this collection of schools do well?
If Stanford and Cal can't get into a major conference then they may have to get creative with an undersize conference and some kind of scheduling alliance with other leagues to add games.
I'm hoping for that. The Big 12's new media deal starts in two years.I believe the B12 still wants UCONN. They simply haven't found the media partner yet to step up and pay for the UCONN addition. Once they find that, I believe we can still get in with another school.
UConn doesn’t want to be a part of any club that would have it as a memberLooking around, has UConn made any friends? Doesn't seem like it. I think we put W h a l e r on the friendship committee years ago and that was that.
There is no "true data." No one knows how much more generous the General Assembly is because the Athletic Dept. helps downtown Hartford, and no one truly knows what the "net" donation effect would be of moving more games from Hartford to Storr. One can only make the best estimates one can.I think you're ignoring the donations the school and seat licenses the school gets from playing in Hartford. They essentially get to double dip.
I suspect we'll never see the true data, but id love to see a donation breakdown between Gampel and Civic Center season ticket holders.
Now with all this said, I tend to agree it's not a good deal, but the worse part is how UConn accounts for it all. As @CL82 noted a lot of these expenses are just paper not cash out and something of the things the AD takes the expense for are kind of dubious as well.
The on campus stadium and deficit are such big talking points, that could pretty easily be resolved with a) 'committee' to investigate an on campus stadium, b) figure out a better way to spread the expenses out aside from parking it in the AD which makes the school like inept.
UConn doesn’t want to be a part of any club that would have it as a member
If I were the XII Hierarchy, I would add New Mexico State before Memphis...lo lDoes anyone think Memphis could be a good fit for Big 12?
Academically not strong, but they check a lot of other boxes including fan support.
Asking for a friend.
GoKU had us at 14, but Greg Flugar always said that we were behind Arizona, Arizona State and Utah. Greg also indicated that there was legitimate interest by Yormark. The disconnect with the order of priority schools is what confused me. Greg and GoKU have different sources. Perhaps what Yormark wanted differed from the presidents.I think the part he was incorrect about was that UCONN Is #14 no matter what. I suspect Arizona, ASU, and UTAH approached the B12 as a package of 3, which B12 gave in on. This changed the original game plan, and UCONN was SOL.
What Iowa State’s guy and what GoKU was saying was pretty similarGoKU had us at 14, but Greg Flugar always said that we were behind Arizona, Arizona State and Utah. Greg also indicated that there was legitimate interest by Yormark. The disconnect with the order of priority schools is what confused me. Greg and GoKU have different sources. Perhaps what Yormark wanted differed from the presidents.
Are they allowed to stay the PAC since most of the conference left? And will they still get NCAA credits?Are these people dense? The Pac will stay the Pac and expand with some combination of MWC and AAC schools (Tulane, SMU). They aren't giving up the brand name and the NCAA credits.
Trey Wallace key? IDK - but here is story with some numbers.....The yes votes are not done trying to work the no votes.
And the corollary. Schools that just got in slamming the door behind them.OK it's hilarious that the schools that want to leave are the ones holding other people back from expansion. This happens all the time and it's a joke.
Why is that a joke? These have bigger paydays elsewhere and are being held hostage. It would be silly for them to vote yes and still wait 12 years for gor to expire.OK it's hilarious that the schools that want to leave are the ones holding other people back from expansion. This happens all the time and it's a joke.
Yes. It’s what we did in the Big East/American too. MWC was already not that far behind the PAC aside from Oregon and USC. It would be a clear 5th best league.Are they allowed to stay the PAC since most of the conference left? And will they still get NCAA credits?
They can have a decent football conference if they pick off the top of the AAC and MWC. It's won't be worth any money but it'll be pretty good football kind of like the early 00s CUSA
No one held them hostage and made them sign the media contract.Why is that a joke? These have bigger paydays elsewhere and are being held hostage. It would be silly for them to vote yes and still wait 12 years for gor to expire.
There is no "true data." No one knows how much more generous the General Assembly is because the Athletic Dept. helps downtown Hartford, and no one truly knows what the "net" donation effect would be of moving more games from Hartford to Storr. One can only make the best estimates one can.
Trey Wallace key? IDK - but here is story with some numbers.....The yes votes are not done trying to work the no votes.