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Exit 4 said:
Trey Wallace key? IDK - but here is story with some numbers.....The yes votes are not done trying to work the no votes.
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Hmmm interesting group of opposition. I wonder if this new addition would cause an opening of the contract and would require everyone to sign a GOR expansion.
 
king conn said:
Times have changed since Rutgers

There is no way with cable bleeding that they will force full market prices on customers in DFW for SMU and the ACC network

They may carry it, but it will be pennies per month.
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ACC Network is probably already in the Dallas/Fort Worth market at an out of market rate (I didn't check) at more than a few pennies per month, say ~$0.35/month. Going to an in market rate could add $1/month.

Remember, the ACC is laser focused on how they can raise revenues in the short term, not on the LT viability of the conference. They are trying to keep FSU and Clemson happy.
 
UConnJim said:
Remember, the ACC is laser focused on how they can raise revenues in the short term, not on the LT viability of the conference. They are trying to keep FSU and Clemson happy.
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Odd strategy.
FSU Short-term unhappiness seems irrelevant bc of the GOR. Seminoles are stuck, happy or not.
Longterm happiness is what will determine conference viability.
 
Vowelguy said:
Odd strategy.
FSU Short-term unhappiness seems irrelevant bc of the GOR. Seminoles are stuck, happy or not.
Longterm happiness is what will determine conference viability.
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13 years is a long time. Wed all take an invite to the acc right now with no guarantee that the conference will exist in its present form in 13 years.
 
CL82 said:
Hmmm interesting group of opposition. I wonder if this new addition would cause an opening of the contract and would require everyone to sign a GOR expansion.
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Well, if that’s true we know what is going on. Schools that are confident they will leave the ACC when the GOR is up at the latest don’t want to lose their veto power over the conference or their right to choke the conferences growth that they can use for leverage.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Well, if that’s true we know what is going on. Schools that are confident they will leave the ACC when the GOR is up at the latest don’t want to lose their veto power over the conference or their right to choke the conferences growth that they can use for leverage.
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Can't they admit new members and give them no voting powers over things like dissolution of the conference or anything GOR related? Would seem like the easy fix here.
 
noeynox said:
Can't they admit new members and give them no voting powers over things like dissolution of the conference or anything GOR related? Would seem like the easy fix here.
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Yes, assuming the core 4 is only worried about the future and not trying to get something from the rest of the conference NOW.
 
businesslawyer said:
Well, if that’s true we know what is going on. Schools that are confident they will leave the ACC when the GOR is up at the latest don’t want to lose their veto power over the conference or their right to choke the conferences growth that they can use for leverage.
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Or maybe they are being rational that adding schools just to add schools is a bad strategy in a world where fans will need to care enough about a schedule to proactively subscribe.
 
businesslawyer said:
Disagree. At the time it was taken, there was an argument that, over an extended period of time, it was the second (to PSU) best football program in the Northeast and the best basketball program in the Northeast. Regardless of whether Syracuse “owns” a material TV market, it was a perfectly rational move to extend the ACC’s brand north from Maryland.
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I think if the subject expansion had been made 10 years earlier, you are right. By 2011, however, we had just won our 3rd Natty in BB and were beating SU five straight in FB. SU has had 1 BB Natty period and spotty FB performance since then. In sum, there were other forces at work. If the decision was made on performance, support and trajectory, we should have been taken.
 
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Exit 4 said:
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noeynox said:
These are the types of things that really show this is mostly a good ole boys club. SMU ain't delivering no goshdarn Dallas market.
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I feel SMU has two purposes. Get the ACC into a second time zone/new cable boxes and get the ACC into a massive football recruiting ground. They have no other purpose.

If the ACC could take Houston they would.
 
Exit 4 said:
I feel SMU has two purposes. Get the ACC into a second time zone/new cable boxes and get the ACC into a massive football recruiting ground. They have no other purpose.

If the ACC could take Houston they would.
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Smu won’t deliver the recruiting ground either. That is so overstated.
 
Exit 4 said:
I feel SMU has two purposes. Get the ACC into a second time zone/new cable boxes and get the ACC into a massive football recruiting ground. They have no other purpose.

If the ACC could take Houston they would.
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Except they could have and never did. This just has the feel of a pick up basketball game, where we are the last ones to get called and the captain is looking around and sees a grandma on the bench and asks her to play rather than ask us.
 
djct1999 said:
Smu won’t deliver the recruiting ground either. That is so overstated.
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Disagree. It helps expand for all existing ACC members. Nebraska lost its recruiting ways moving from the B12 to the B1G- Texas gone/program down.
 
noeynox said:
Except they could have and never did. This just has the feel of a pick up basketball game, where we are the last ones to get called and the captain is looking around and sees a grandma on the bench and asks her to play rather than ask us.
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You know why they didn’t- because the ACC internally has conflicting vision. They are not unified.

As for picking Grandma- yep, no denying that. SMU is Granny that happens to own a gym y’all can use to practice in. Granny doesn’t bring game- she brings real estate.
 
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JeepCSC said:
The ACC tried to get into Texas before, but SMU is definitely not the way to do it.
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Well they f u n k’d up because they waited too long and all that is left is Granny.
 
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Exit 4 said:
Disagree. It helps expand for all existing ACC members. Nebraska lost its recruiting ways moving from the B12 to the B1G- Texas gone/program down.
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No it doesn't. Not in a state with 6 P4 teams. The ACC will never crack Texas, which is why they never bothered with Houston. Houston was there for the taking all along and is much better than SMU (it's also technically on the Atlantic coast). This SMU thing is nonsense, they will probably end up with the PAC schools.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Houston was there for the taking all along and is much better than SMU (it's also technically on the Atlantic coast).
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HuskyHawk said:
No it doesn't. Not in a state with 6 P4 teams. The ACC will never crack Texas, which is why they never bothered with Houston. Houston was there for the taking all along and is much better than SMU (it's also technically on the Atlantic coast). This SMU thing is nonsense, they will probably end up with the PAC schools.
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A state with 29MM people that added the equivalent of nearly 3 entire CTs in 20 years. A state that is madly in love with football at the HS level. SMU might not happen for many reasons, but there is no denying it is on the table. Now it might get kicked off the table today after this ACC meeting, but for this week it has been a thing.

Look, I am no fan of SMU, but I get why its being discussed. The ACC needs to avoid the pitfalls of the P12 and one of those is being too centered in one time zone.
 
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