Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Rufus]

Not many key tweets today. I'm going through key tweet withdrawal again.

 

[Rufus]

P5

If those teams are forced to join a Group of 5, the Mountain West is a better destination than the American.

 

[huskymedic]

If those teams are forced to join a Group of 5, the Mountain West is a better destination than the American.

But Aresco has the drums beating…

 

[Forte]

The ACC will not say no on the second vote tomorrow. Its obvious they will be admitted. People bend over backward for other the old guard.

 

[HuskyHawk]

P5

Are these people dense? The Pac will stay the Pac and expand with some combination of MWC and AAC schools (Tulane, SMU). They aren't giving up the brand name and the NCAA credits.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Are these people dense? The Pac will stay the Pac and expand with some combination of MWC and AAC schools (Tulane, SMU). They aren't giving up the brand name and the NCAA credits.

They won't give up the brand name or the credits but it will be very difficult for them to grab anyone from the MW. That conference just upped its departure fees to (I believe) $34 million. The new PAC won't make enough money for the move to be worth it for MW schools.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

GoKU didn’t miss on whether they’d be available. He was adamant Utah was not in play.

That's the part that screwed us. UTAH was all suddenly available and willing, which wasn't the case until that dreadful Friday morning.

 

[bendm]

Are these people dense? The Pac will stay the Pac and expand with some combination of MWC and AAC schools (Tulane, SMU). They aren't giving up the brand name and the NCAA credits.

PAC4 + MW + SMU & Tulane = PAC18

at least 9 of the 12 MW teams must leave to dissolve the conference and remove exit fees. i don't think they will leave 3 teams hanging and will require PAC to accept all 12.

 

[WestCoastHusky]

I believe the B12 still wants UCONN. They simply haven't found the media partner yet to step up and pay for the UCONN addition. Once they find that, I believe we can still get in with another school.

 

[Ha Who]

I believe the B12 still wants UCONN. They simply haven't found the media partner yet to step up and pay for the UCONN addition. Once they find that, I believe we can still get in with another school.

 

[uconnyankee]

I believe the B12 still wants UCONN. They simply haven't found the media partner yet to step up and pay for the UCONN addition. Once they find that, I believe we can still get in with another school.

Does anyone think Memphis could be a good fit for Big 12?
Academically not strong, but they check a lot of other boxes including fan support.

Asking for a friend.

 

[CL82]

Hahaha... eph you!

 

[Exit 4]

Does anyone think Memphis could be a good fit for Big 12?
Academically not strong, but they check a lot of other boxes including fan support.

Asking for a friend.

It does compute.....sad to say.

 

[phillionaire]

maybe the real power conference is the friends we made along the way

 

[Exit 4]

maybe the real power conference is the friends we made along the way

Looking around, has UConn made any friends? Doesn't seem like it. I think we put W h a l e r on the friendship committee years ago and that was that.

 

[pj]

PAC4 + MW + SMU & Tulane = PAC18

at least 9 of the 12 MW teams must leave to dissolve the conference and remove exit fees. i don't think they will leave 3 teams hanging and will require PAC to accept all 12.

Right now the MW has a favorable media contract, negotiated near the peak of the market. If they rip up the MW conference, that media deal goes away and this new Pac18 would have to negotiate a new one in a down period for the market. Why would this collection of schools do well?

If Stanford and Cal can't get into a major conference then they may have to get creative with an undersize conference and some kind of scheduling alliance with other leagues to add games.

 

[Samoo]

That sounds like out of state tuition.

Nope, but it includes housing, food, books etc.

 

[HobokenHusky]

That's not what is going on.

They can't add UConn with this much time left in the GOR because they are looking for votes to break the GOR. They know UConn would be aligned against that since the schools that would favor UConn are definitely not FSU and Clemson.

The closer you get to the end of the GOR, the more these votes begin to matter much much less.

I bet the prospect of additions to the league is being resisted by the northeast schools plus Wake Forest and Georgia Tech, Louisville as well.

We have to remember that the ACC has split allegiances and that this makes agreement on added members difficult.

Yea, there is not some grudge here. There likely was in the past, but it's confirmed they almost added us in 2011 or whenever Ville was added. This is all self-preservation. Those schools were smart to bend to FSU and Clemson at that time, it got them the GOR and as a result a dozen years of borrowed time. At this point we need to tread water finance wise and we will end up in a Duke/Cuse/Pitt/Wake conference whenever the ACC football powers figure out how to break free.

 

[noeynox]

Does anyone think Memphis could be a good fit for Big 12?
Academically not strong, but they check a lot of other boxes including fan support.

Asking for a friend.

Nope. Next.

 

[bendm]

Right now the MW has a favorable media contract, negotiated near the peak of the market. If they rip up the MW conference, that media deal goes away and this new Pac18 would have to negotiate a new one in a down period for the market. Why would this collection of schools do well?

If Stanford and Cal can't get into a major conference then they may have to get creative with an undersize conference and some kind of scheduling alliance with other leagues to add games.

you dont think that group of 18 could do better than the 4 mill per year per school the MW contract provides or the 5 mill per year per school the AAC gets?

i think they could do a couple mill better with a mix of linear and streaming e.g. nbc + apple or amazon

but if that 18 cant do any better, than stanford and cal certainly cant on their own as indies with their olympic sports in the WCC.

 

[jostar1]

I believe the B12 still wants UCONN. They simply haven't found the media partner yet to step up and pay for the UCONN addition. Once they find that, I believe we can still get in with another school.

I'm hoping for that. The Big 12's new media deal starts in two years.

 

[phillionaire]

Looking around, has UConn made any friends? Doesn't seem like it. I think we put W h a l e r on the friendship committee years ago and that was that.

UConn doesn’t want to be a part of any club that would have it as a member

 

[businesslawyer]

I think you're ignoring the donations the school and seat licenses the school gets from playing in Hartford. They essentially get to double dip.

I suspect we'll never see the true data, but id love to see a donation breakdown between Gampel and Civic Center season ticket holders.

Now with all this said, I tend to agree it's not a good deal, but the worse part is how UConn accounts for it all. As @CL82 noted a lot of these expenses are just paper not cash out and something of the things the AD takes the expense for are kind of dubious as well.

The on campus stadium and deficit are such big talking points, that could pretty easily be resolved with a) 'committee' to investigate an on campus stadium, b) figure out a better way to spread the expenses out aside from parking it in the AD which makes the school like inept.

There is no "true data." No one knows how much more generous the General Assembly is because the Athletic Dept. helps downtown Hartford, and no one truly knows what the "net" donation effect would be of moving more games from Hartford to Storr. One can only make the best estimates one can.

 

[pj]

UConn doesn’t want to be a part of any club that would have it as a member

Stanford and Cal are in the same boat.

 

[coachcap]

Does anyone think Memphis could be a good fit for Big 12?
Academically not strong, but they check a lot of other boxes including fan support.

Asking for a friend.

If I were the XII Hierarchy, I would add New Mexico State before Memphis...lo l