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EROCK CONN said:
The NCAA Tournament's Big Payday - Front Office Sports

https://www.axios.com/2023/03/29/ncaa-basketball-tournament-conference-payouts

According to the above axios link, in 2023 the NCAA paid out 230 million out of $900 million. The front office link says conferences are expecting about $260 million this year. It's absolute insanity the NCAA keeps that much.
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That is not the whole story. The NCAA Tournament pays for all other sports championships and many other things that benefit all of the schools. The CFP pays for nothing so more money is distributed to the schools. Now that football is a huge moneymaker through the CFP, having the NCAAT subsidize everything the NCAA does seems outdated, but I highly doubt it is going to change.

Many people think the NCAAT media rights are undervalued by the NCAA as they like having the LT media contract which is the same mistake the ACC has made. And one thing that is clear is that the NCAA women's tournament media rights are undervalued and I really can't figure out how the NCAA let that happen.
 
ZooCougar said:
This is the main way that they make money. The more schools take back from the NCAA, the more they hurt it.
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Well, I am no fan of the NCAA. And don’t you realize this arrangement kills the power basketball schools? and there is no single greater victim in this arrangement than UConn. If the basketball schools kept more the of the tv revenue, they would be much more lucrative and thereby more attractive. If the bball schools kept +/- 90% of the NCAA tournament revenue , UConn would be in a power league tomorrow.
 
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Kolumbo said:
Looks like they are making serious investments which have paid off. They moved right to the top of the Sun Belt standings in football and basketball. I wouldn't be surprised if they are serious candidate for whatever happens when the vultures show up for the ACC remains.
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Could fill the map nicely for the ACC remnants. Just keep what they have started going.
 
Kolumbo said:
Looks like they are making serious investments which have paid off. They moved right to the top of the Sun Belt standings in football and basketball. I wouldn't be surprised if they are serious candidate for whatever happens when the vultures show up for the ACC remains.
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They've invested in almost all of their athletic facilities over the past 15 or so years starting with the FB stadium and Performance Center, then all of their other outdoor stadia/fields (baseball, softball, lacrosse, soccer megaplex), and most recently a new basketball arena). So, their facilities are done for a while (unless they expand their FB stadium if/when they need to in order to jump up in conference realignment).
 
UConnJim said:
That is not the whole story. The NCAA Tournament pays for all other sports championships and many other things that benefit all of the schools. The CFP pays for nothing so more money is distributed to the schools. Now that football is a huge moneymaker through the CFP, having the NCAAT subsidize everything the NCAA does seems outdated, but I highly doubt it is going to change.

Many people think the NCAAT media rights are undervalued by the NCAA as they like having the LT media contract which is the same mistake the ACC has made. And one thing that is clear is that the NCAA women's tournament media rights are undervalued and I really can't figure out how the NCAA let that happen.
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Mainly by the growth of the women’s tournament j ESPN agreed to a 5 year deal that was $35million to $115Million
That includes over 30 D1 championships ,NIT, and Overseas rights to the men’s tournament .
Since experts estimated the women’s tourney was worth that much alone it was a little disappointing.
I believe that each NCAA unit could be increased to $1million plus
That would take a pool of about $600million
and be a game changer for UConn’s Worth
A run like last year would been worth $30 million to a conference
 
last year's NCAA Units were worth around $2M each. The women's tournament does not have a unit system (It was valued at $65M in the new rights deal; most projections had said it could be worth 80-110M alone; which might have lead to women's units existing).
 
EROCK CONN said:
Well, I am no fan of the NCAA. And don’t you realize this arrangement kills the power basketball schools? and there is no single greater victim in this arrangement than UConn. If the basketball schools kept more the of the tv revenue, they would be much more lucrative and thereby more attractive. If the bball schools kept +/- 90% of the NCAA tournament revenue , UConn would be in a power league tomorrow.
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Even Jay Bilas believes BB can break away ala CFP. UConn can be a major player in such a move. It remains farcical that UConn bumps along financially while the likes of Syracuse, BFC get $30mm per year. ( Rutgers getting $65mm is beyond farcical!).
With the ACC blowing up, we'll find some allies to take over March Madness - like UNC, Duke. It's not crazy and if football did it, BB can too!
 
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JMick said:
This graph doesn't really make that argument.
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You know as well as I do that the bar always shifts when it comes to us:

Them: “UConn spends more on men’s basketball than it does on football”

Us: “Yeah but we spend more on football than anyone else in the G5”

Them: “Yeah but you do that through a subsidy generated by massive student fees because your athletic department has so much debt”

And on, and on, and on
 
Drew said:
You know as well as I do that the bar always shifts when it comes to us:

Them: “UConn spends more on men’s basketball than it does on football”

Us: “Yeah but we spend more on football than anyone else in the G5”

Them: “Yeah but you do that through a subsidy generated by massive student fees because your athletic department has so much debt”

And on, and on, and on
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But who is "them?"

Randos on Twitter that read at a third grade level?
 
We're literally spending more than almost every G5 school....plus if we were in a power football conference that would be different, but they powers have left us out so this is not UConns fault.
 
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JMick said:
But who is "them?"

Randos on Twitter that read at a third grade level?
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Anyone in college sports media and administration, including Athletic Directors as recently as last year from the Big 12
 
Speaking of folklore, the groundhog said we were going to get an early spring.
 
Drew said:
You know as well as I do that the bar always shifts when it comes to us:

Them: “UConn spends more on men’s basketball than it does on football”

Us: “Yeah but we spend more on football than anyone else in the G5”

Them: “Yeah but you do that through a subsidy generated by massive student fees because your athletic department has so much debt”

And on, and on, and on
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Guess we need to shift the narratives one by one ;):

www.sportico.com

James Madison’s Record $53M in Student Fees Tops All Public Schools

James Madison's athletic student fee subsidies reached a record $53,3 million in fiscal 2023, by far the highest of any public school in the country.
www.sportico.com www.sportico.com
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How Sway?! said:
Idk, I feel like spending as much as the top G5 programs shows otherwise
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It’s percentages and perception. Sure UConn spends the same absolute dollars on football as the G5 schools. However if those same G5 schools had access to what UConn spends on basketball as well they’d allocate some (in certain cases most) of that to football as well.

The argument is then we spend as much as any non-P5 program which bleeds into the basketball-only argument of why isn’t football successful, since it’s not let’s devote more to basketball (where they are not only among the highest achieving but also the highest funded programs).

To external forces… football revenue is greater than basketball revenue; if UConn has access to more resources why aren’t they allocating those resources accordingly to improve the program. Clearly they don’t care… and if they get more resources whose to say they’d spend it on football.

UConn is also the only school among the major basketball programs where basketball draws more revenue than football. For each of the others football draws significantly more revenue. The non-UConn fan/president/AD wonders why UConn puts in so much “effort” (funding) to find dimes at the expense of finding dollars.

It’s not necessarily a fair argument but it’s an easy one to make, especially if you’re already predisposed to reject UConn.
 
ScottVib said:
UConn is also the only school among the major basketball programs where basketball draws more revenue than football. For each of the others football draws significantly more revenue. The non-UConn fan/president/AD wonders why UConn puts in so much “effort” (funding) to find dimes at the expense of finding dollars.

It’s not necessarily a fair argument but it’s an easy one to make, especially if you’re already predisposed to reject UConn.
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Bit more color: Ticket sales only (no NCAA Tourney Credits/Media Revenue):

 
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