Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[hoopsfan22]

The Pac will likely have a GOR too. If the Big wants Washington/Oregon, they are available. If they don’t want them now, I don’t know why those two should think they’d be more attractive in a decade with small paychecks.

The B1G going west was a mistake IMO. I understand the allure of scooping the second biggest media market in the country, but that's old school thinking, and they should have kept their powder dry. Western teams are apparently not worth much, and if you're going to add it needs to be in the east particularly the southeast.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

The Pac will likely have a GOR too. If the Big wants Washington/Oregon, they are available. If they don’t want them now, I don’t know why those two should think they’d be more attractive in a decade with small paychecks.

We will see.

The B1G has been very determined and deliberate with everything they've done with realignment and I seriously doubt they'll alter their approach because of some turmoil in other conferences.

Their plan (they kind of let that out of the bag a few months back) was to continue to slowly build out the west coast beginning a few years after USC-UCLA joined as members. I still believe they have a target date (don't know what it is but I'll wager it's about five years out) to add the next two west coast schools and will do so again a number of year later.

One thing most are missing here (as the B1G has existed for decades longer than the SEC, ore than half a century longer than the ACC and a massive amount of time longer than any other conference)is they feel no need to do things in a rush. They won't be pressured into a move and they see no need to accelerate their plan just because it may make life easier for a potential addition. They'll add Oregon and Washington on their timetable and in all candor, Oregon and Washington will accept that as it is far better than the alternative (not getting in the B1G at any point in time).

 

[ec33]

The B1G going west was a mistake IMO. I understand the allure of scooping the second biggest media market in the country, but that's old school thinking, and they should have kept their powder dry. Western teams are apparently not worth much, and if you're going to add it needs to be in the east particularly the southeast.

It was about the brands. How many FB and BB brands are larger than USC and UCLA?

 

[UCONNBones]

 

[tcf15]

 

[uconnyankee]

The expectation is Colorado/Arizona/UConn/ASU

Report from Thamel on ESPN suggested AZ, ASU and Utah were going to form a block. If one goes, they all go. If one stays, they all stay

 

[ec33]

Report from Thamel on ESPN suggested AZ, ASU and Utah were going to form a block. If one goes, they all go. If one stays, they all stay

Why do AZ and ASU do that? They are going to jeopardize their future and cost their universities tens of millions of dollars for Utah?

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Report from Thamel on ESPN suggested AZ, ASU and Utah were going to form a block. If one goes, they all go. If one stays, they all stay

Can someone explain to me why UofA and ASU would give a flying F about what happens to Utah? I get UofA and ASU banding together.

 

[Ha Who]

Why do AZ and ASU do that? They are going to jeopardize their future and cost their universities tens of millions of dollars for Utah?

Rule 1 section 10

 

[Rico444]

I don't know what this means, but it's definitely key.

 

[hoopsfan22]

It was about the brands. How many FB and BB brands are larger than USC and UCLA?

I'd rather grab schools in the fastest growing part of the country. The Carolinas, Georgia, and Florida where college sports are a religion and everyone is moving to. I assume there's nothing left in Texas that would be worthwhile to the B1G.

 

[GoKU]

Report from Thamel on ESPN suggested AZ, ASU and Utah were going to form a block. If one goes, they all go. If one stays, they all stay

That is not correct. If they did that, the Big 12 takes UConn and stops at 14.

 

[B1GEast]

Why do AZ and ASU do that? They are going to jeopardize their future and cost their universities tens of millions of dollars for Utah?

I saw one of the YouTube podcasts that indicated that AZ and AZ State share the same board of regents and that they are tied together. I'm not buying Utah. Not sure if both will be invited to the 12, but it seems as though they only want AZ. That seneriio might help us.

Who really knows?

 

[huskypantz]

Conference Realignment rule #1 is dusting itself off right now

 

[UC1995]

Looks like AZ is def announcing tmw afternoon then.

They would take AZ, ASU and Utah. That's 16.

You overestimate utahs interest in the Big 12. They don’t want to be with BYU.

 

[jostar1]

Does anyone remember years ago on one of the prior versions of the Boneyard, there used to be Profanity Friday or something like that? I forget what it was called. We may need that for one day to get it all out.

 

[Muddler]

Why do AZ and ASU do that? They are going to jeopardize their future and cost their universities tens of millions of dollars for Utah?

I think it is a smart play. There’s strength in numbers, and this helps the move from the superior academic conference to a conference with Baylor, UCF, TCU, BYU etc. none of which makes anyone on their campus feel good. Colorado will push for them too—among others. I guess it is a risk, but they likely have the support from current B12 members.

 

[ec33]

I'd rather grab schools in the fastest growing part of the country. The Carolinas, Georgia, and Florida where college sports are a religion and everyone is moving to. I assume there's nothing left in Texas that would be worthwhile to the B1G.

USC vs. Ohio State is not going to only be watched by southern California and Ohio. It will be watched nationally. That is why you grab them, even in gaining greater interest from California in the conference certainly helps (it is a nice market - the point is the entirety of the US is a larger market).

The ACC teams are not yet on the market, so it is hard to grab them.

 

[noeynox]

The Pac will likely have a GOR too. If the Big wants Washington/Oregon, they are available. If they don’t want them now, I don’t know why those two should think they’d be more attractive in a decade with small paychecks.

It's not that simple i don't believe. Networks don't want to keep paying big money for conferences to add teams. Paying a team 30 million in the Pac is different than paying that same team 60 million in the B1G.

 

[Stinger92860]

I'm sure Brett Yormark and the B12 have a great reason for wanting to add 4 schools from the PAC conference. Maybe they think that the west coast time zone will help the Big 12 get better TV ratings. Or maybe they think that the PAC schools will bring in more money, even though their media rights deal is only worth $20 million per school.

Whatever the reason, I'm sure it's a great one. I mean, why else would they want to add 4 schools from a conference with very low viewership and a mediocre media rights deal? So, I'm sure that whatever B12 is thinking, it's definitely the right thing to do. And I'm sure that the Big 12 will be a much better conference after adding 4 schools from the currently powerful PAC.

 

[superjohn]

I think it is a smart play. There’s strength in numbers, and this helps the move from the superior academic conference to a conference with Baylor, UCF, TCU, BYU etc. none of which makes anyone on their campus feel good. Colorado will push for them too—among others. I guess it is a risk, but they likely have the support from current B12 members.

Like academics has anything to do with this stuff.

 

[Utah Top Dog]

I think it is a smart play. There’s strength in numbers, and this helps the move from the superior academic conference to a conference with Baylor, UCF, TCU, BYU etc. none of which makes anyone on their campus feel good. Colorado will push for them too—among others. I guess it is a risk, but they likely have the support from current B12 members.

Baylor, TCU, Colorado and BYU are rated higher academically than Arizona, ASU, Oregon, and Utah. The TCU campus is as nice as any in the country.

 

[Dizzy21]

I saw one of the YouTube podcasts that indicated that AZ and AZ State share the same board of regents and that they are tied together. I'm not buying Utah. Not sure if both will be invited to the 12, but it seems as though they only want AZ. That seneriio might help us.

Who really knows?

The President of ASU said they are most certainly not tied together and AZ can do whatever it wants. ASU also just made a big push into California and are worried the BIG 12 would kill that plan and reduce attendance.

 

[Big Loubowski]

This is such bs, essentially saying look I know something is happening but I won’t say what it is. Bush league stuff.

 

[JeepCSC]

It's not that simple i don't believe. Networks don't want to keep paying big money for conferences to add teams. Paying a team 30 million in the Pac is different than paying that same team 60 million in the B1G.

It’s possible there is no appetite for Washington/Oregon in the BIG. Which means they should likely be first in line for the Big XII to call. Both should want to at least discuss things. I just can’t wrap my head around more smoke being around Utah than Washington.