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  1. jostar1

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    Eyes on Texas: Five years later, yes, ESPN still ‘fully committed’ to LHN

    Just about everyone has expressed some kind of opinion about the UT-centric network, which started with 20,000 subscribers in Texas five years ago but now boasts 20 million coast to coast.

    As for the all the negativity, Stephanie Druley said she “stopped reading that a long time ago.” Over the last five years, the UT graduate launched the channel in 2011 and has seen her career rocket into the stratosphere at ESPN. Now a senior vice president, Druley is responsible for everything viewers see on all ESPN networks involving college sports, the NFL and Major League Baseball.

    But LHN will always remain on her radar.

    Druley said ESPN was charged with creating a platform for all UT sports that is, as stated in the contract, “first class in all respects.” To that end, ESPN has delivered the goods.

    Thus, Druley says she has no intention of turning LHN into some kind of Big 12-centric network, as if that’s a cure-all in the current expansion hubbub.

    “I’m not in the Big 12 business right now with that network specifically. That’s not the purpose of that network,” Druley said. “I don’t think we have a responsibility to be all things to the Big 12. We have a responsibility to be all things to Texas.”

    More at:
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  2. jrazz12

    jrazz12 Get B1G

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    I'm sorry, 20 million LHN subscribers? I call bullsnit.

    And of course someone who is responsible for a complete failure would be rewarded up the chain at ESPN. Syracuse grads have perfected that model for years there.
     
  3. Waquoit

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    All I know is when you think UConn, you think BB championships. When you think Houston, you think of guys on the court crying after blowing it. I saw Houston play football last year, I wasn't impressed.
     
  4. Hoophound

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    Well, if you are over 40 you remember the crying. Otherwise, you don't remember anything at all.
     
  5. SubbaBub

    SubbaBub Think I look cuddly? Come at me bro'.

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    20M is terrible when you consider 95M is a national network. No wonder ESPN is losing money.
     
  6. IMind

    IMind Wildly Inaccurate

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    They might count me as a subscriber because I get the sports package on DirecTV... that probably accounts for about 10M of the 20M. ;)
     
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  7. Uconn77Duke74

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    Actually when I think of Houston, (Dallas or San Antonio) I think of more UConn BB championships.
     
  8. MattMang23

    MattMang23 Contrarian

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    We have more basketball championships in Houston than Houston has anywhere. Hell, if I'm not mistaken, we have as many basketball championships in Houston alone than the entire state of Texas combined has in all cities in the country combined.
     
  9. jho

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    Come to think of it, we have only one fewer national championship then the entire membership of the Big XII has combined: Oklahoma A&M (now Oklahoma State) 1945, 1946; and Kansas 1952, 1988, 2008. Houston hasn't made it past the Sweet Sixteen since 1984 which is a very Rutgers-like basketball resume.
     
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  10. billybud

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    I do remember Houston's basketball from my younger days....Elwin Hayes is my age and was a stud playing for them...when they played Lew Alcindor and UCLA way back in my day in the short short era, it was the first regular season game to be nationally televised.
     
  11. AZHuskiePop

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    That game was in the Astrodome, UCLA played awful Alcinder was injured and lost by a couple ,the rematch was a complete blowout.
    I think it was the first Nationally Televised game in prime time
     
  12. UConnNick

    UConnNick from Vince Lombardi's home town

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    That's correct. UTEP (f/k/a Texas Western) won the 1966 NCAA men's national BB championship. It's the only team from TX to ever win it. The Final Four was played at Cole Field House on the U. of Maryland campus that year. UTEP is currently tied with us in NCAA team national championships.
     
  13. uc1974

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    I was at the Final Four that year (I'm old). The final was supposed to include Duke but Bob Verga was injured and the Blue Devils lost to Ky in the semis. They did win the long gone 3rd place game against Utah (State?) by two as I recollect. The crowd was stunned at the skill of TWU and they gave Adolph Rupp quite a lesson. I think the game was on TV but its been 50 yrs and I can't remember if there were TV cameras there or not. Cole FH was not a big building and it was not comfortable temperature wise.
     
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  14. AZHuskiePop

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    I don't remember watching it on TV
    I think I listened to on the Radio
    That was Rupp's seven dwarfs
    TW had a white player that started the semifinal game but probably because it was against KY of the SEC he chose to start five African American players. Sports played a big role in desegegration
     
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  15. WhiteDressWes

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    I watched the game on TV, live.
     
  16. alexd.

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    ESPN replayed the TV broadcast back in March. Very cool.
    You don't realize how much you get used to graphics until you watch a game with none.
     
  17. JMick

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    you're all super old
     
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  18. uc1974

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    I want to watch games with just the crowd noise--no mostly horrible announcers and color guys, silly on the sidelines nonsense. But, not possible because you can't get the feed w/o the verbal diarrhea. Too bad.
     
  19. coachcap

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    Pre-Direct tv or DISH it was available. Circa 1992, the Mrs. & I were driving home from Disney. We stopped for an overnight at my sister's then new home in the Raleigh area to visit. My brother-in-law had recently installed one of those huge satellite dishes in the back yard for tv reception. I was amazed at all the feeds pulled from the ether. This was the era before the networks scrambled the signals. As I checked out the channel availability, I clicked consecutively on channels broadcasting a Portland Trailblazers game. One channel was the full broadcast, the next was the broadcast without the announcers mics, & the third was the announcers without the background mics.
     
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  20. uc1974

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    I remember that it was once possible. Now it's Joe Tessitore & Co. babbling too much. I think they are all paid by the word which is why there are so many and most have only one syllable.
     
  21. jostar1

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    Berry Tramel ‏@BerryTramel · 15h15 hours ago
    OU-Houston arrives with lots of stakes
    OU-Houston arrives with lots of stakes


    “There's not a place I go in this city that people don't know Houston and Oklahoma are playing in NRG” Stadium, said UH athletic director Hunter Yurachek. “There's an excitement unlike anything I've seen.”

    Talk about fortuitous timing for Houston. The Cougars went 13-1 last season and beat Florida State 38-24 in the now-major Peach Bowl. Herman stayed in Houston, despite reports of Georgia and South Carolina trying to turn his head. Quarterback Greg Ward Jr. returns as a veteran senior playmaker.

    And in July, the Big 12 announced it was back in the market for expansion candidates.

    “That's part of the buzz going on right now for sure,” Yurachek said. “Our goal for awhile now has been to put ourselves in the best position possible to compete at the highest level. Potential door opening, potential opportunity to do that, you kind of feel a level of energy around our entire campus, anticipation tied to the game, tied to the talk of Big 12 expansion. Just a phenomenal level of energy on our campus.”

    The outcome of the OU-Houston game shouldn't affect expansion talks. You can't make such huge decisions based on one scoreboard on a particular Saturday. But obviously the game is vital to UH's profile as a legit contender to join a college football power conference.

    “We're doing everything we can do,” Houston board of regents chairman Tilman Fertitta said Thursday during a press conference to announce his $20 million donation to renovate UH's basketball arena. “We think in the next 60-90 days, it will all be over and hopefully the University of Houston will be in the Big 12.

    “I think there is a whole lot of support out there. I just don't see how you can't say Houston when it's all over with.”

    Well, the six non-Texas schools can see it. Especially OU and OSU, which fear that Big 12 membership could galvanize the Houston program the way it did TCU's. Even the Texas schools, despite public support from Texas Tech and the University of Texas, have to have qualms about adding a fifth school from south of the Red River.

    “I feel a lot of the (Big 12) presidents feel the league is Texas heavy already,” Iowa State president Steve Leath told the Ames Tribune last month. “It's a little problematic … all I can say on that is they will get a fair shake. They certainly have a lot of factors we're interested in.”

    Houston absolutely would fill the short-term void that the Big 12 seeks, of better football. A Houston/Brigham Young combination would increase the league's football status immediately.

    And Houston has a ready answer for those who wonder if the Cougars could inflict recruiting damage onto fellow Big 12 schools. According to figures compiled by UH, the Big 12 has increasingly lost Texas high school recruits to the SEC, since Texas A&M joined that league in 2012. In 2010, SEC schools signed only three of the top 50 Texans. In 2016, SEC schools signed 20 of the top 50 Texans, and A&M accounted for just six of those 20.

    “If I remember correctly, one of President (David) Boren's comments was, he was looking for a member that would make the Big 12 competitively better,” Yurachek said.

    “Concern over Houston, what that could mean, shows we could bring a different level of competitiveness. If you're a football coach and you want a metric that can help you get in the College Football Playoff, playing an opponent the quality of Houston …”

    Yes, UH would get some recruits away from Big 12 schools. UH also would get some recruits away from SEC schools.

    “They're all pulling kids out of the area,” Yurachek said. “Competition is a great thing.

    “You want to make your conference better. You don't want to bring someone who makes your conference weaker.”

    And so arrives the OU-Houston drama, with so much more at stake than just the outcome of a football game. Except to the people who will decide the outcome.

    “The furthest thing from any of our players' mind is the Big 12,” Yurachek said. The game is an “opportunity to prove ourselves against one of the best programs in the country and one of the best programs in the history of college football.

    “If we win that game, we still have 11 more to play. If we lose that game, still we have 11 more to play. To say that has any bearing on any presidential vote would be reaching.”
     
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    Bill smith‏@TXRedcreek5 1h1 hour ago
    @kbohls how confident are you that under no circumstances does UT extend GOR for horse trade in big 12 realignment?

    Kirk Bohls ‏@kbohls · 46m46 minutes ago
    Very confident.


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  23. Pudge

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    So ...you're an Outlier. A Iowa State or Kansas State. You know Texas is a likely Goner after 2024. OU & OkSt delivered in a package. What are you left with?

    1. Stockpile Cash - grab more now.
    2. Make the residual payments post 2024 large - win some NCAA MM
    3. Cover markets that make sense.
    4. Align your future with the best possible. Which have other options in 2024?

    Do you take more Texas? Do you take Florida? Mormons? NY or NE? Denver? What is East Carolina or Memphis thinking?

    Whatever the Governor of Texas thought he was doing ... the shift is clearly about what Baylor & ISU & KSU & TCU & WVU think they land when musical chairs get pulled. If they really go by the existing contract ... they've got to go Four.
     
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    dayooper It's what I do. I drink and I know things.

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    The seven may want to go to four, but does Oklahoma, Kansas and Texas want four? Does TTU think (or even know) that Texas is taking them with them? That's the problem the Big12 is in; too many teams that have different agendas and needs.
     
  25. FDNY99

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    Outside of OU, UT and Kansas...the rest of the B-12 schools in reality would fit in the AAC. OSU and TT need OU and UT to petition to take them along. WVU and UConn would be a fit in the ACC...but that's about it. The rest of them need the B-12 to stay together.