Key tweets, and it's all gone to Hell.

[Ldandy]

The Mountain West has put several teams in the p-5. I'm not sure the AAC can say that, yet.

I also think the lack of competition and higher amount of public flagship schools as opposed to private and commuter schools may have something to do with it being perceived as more stable.

That being said when the AAC add schools this round of realignment I fully expect the AAC to reload with a block of Western schools to form a true nationwide conference. At that point it will be really interesting to see what happens to the MW. Might see some schools like Wyoming move to the Big Sky.

Everybody welcome Okie back to the board.

 

[MountainMan]

Everybody welcome Okie back to the board.

I'm on my best behavior. If you question my motives check my posts on LT's.

 

[CallMeBruce]

The Mountain West has put several teams in the p-5. I'm not sure the AAC can say that, yet.

Of course it can. The AAC is the Big East, which sent 8 schools to the P5. That doesn't matter, obviously, since it doesn't tell us anything about the current strength of the league. Other than Utah, who has the MWC sent to a P5 conference?

 

[noeynox]

Of course it can. The AAC is the Big East, which sent 8 schools to the P5. That doesn't matter, obviously, since it doesn't tell us anything about the current strength of the league. Other than Utah, who has the MWC sent to a P5 conference?

TCU. But your point about the big east being the AAC is a good one.

 

[CallMeBruce]

TCU. But your point about the big east being the AAC is a good one.

Funny part is I almost gave TCU to the Big East. But again, that has nothing to do with the current strength of the league, so it's a pretty silly conversation.

 

[MountainMan]

Of course it can. The AAC is the Big East, which sent 8 schools to the P5. That doesn't matter, obviously, since it doesn't tell us anything about the current strength of the league. Other than Utah, who has the MWC sent to a P5 conference?

Not really. The Big East still exists and the AAC has only been around a few years. The AAC has not put any schools in the p-5, yet. Only a few of the current AAC members were ever in the Big East as well so for the most part its' a new conference.

TCU never played a game in the Big East, not sure how you could count them.

 

[CallMeBruce]

Not really. The Big East still exists and the AAC has only been around a few years. The AAC has not put any schools in the p-5, yet. Only a few of the current AAC members were ever in the Big East as well so for the most part its' a new conference.

TCU never played a game in the Big East, not sure how you could count them.

It's been explained a million times on here, but no. The AAC is the Big East. They sold the name to the new Big East, which just started a few years ago. And in either case, you're trying to compare currently league quality by using teams that aren't in the league anymore. Do you seriously not understand why that's stupid?

 

[Adios]

Not really. The Big East still exists and the AAC has only been around a few years. The AAC has not put any schools in the p-5, yet. Only a few of the current AAC members were ever in the Big East as well so for the most part its' a new conference.

TCU never played a game in the Big East, not sure how you could count them.

The AAC legally carries on the history of the Big East before the split...

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Louisville and Rutgers both played as members of the AAC for a season before leaving.

So if you want to get technical, there you have it.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Funny part is I almost gave TCU to the Big East. But again, that has nothing to do with the current strength of the league, so it's a pretty silly conversation.

At the very least, TCU was more than happy to leave the MWC for the Big East.

All the speculation is pointless because we don't know what the AAC will look like after the B12 expands. At present, it is much, much stronger than the MWC in football. Tulsa just crushed San Jose St. 45-10. Tulsa isn't expected to be one of the AAC's stronger teams.

 

[kingdobbs]

The crazy part about the whole FCS to FBS is the schools who have the support and should move up don't want to. Montana, NDSU, etc... Montana has every reason to move up with Boise, Wyoming, CSU, Air Force, etc.. They average over 25k for games in the FCS yet Estern Michigan has games with less than 3k people and they play FBS. Makes no sense.

I think they like the idea of being able to play for a championship knowing that in the FBS they are playing for a conference and possibly bowl win but no real championship.

The fact that there is a requirement that you already have an invitation to a FBS league, or be part of a league that, as a whole, reclassified*, is a much more significant impediment than most people realize. And from the EMU side of things, inertia is a powerful thing. For them (for example) to join FCS, they would become the only FCS in the state, and join a conference with few teams they have ever played (since they would speculatively not be allowed to retain MAC membership), when staying FBS in the MAC gives them more teams that are closer they have played for longer.

Also, this is something that was said about Idaho a number of years back. They were an FCS powerhouse, moved up to FBS, and struggled for many years to find success and have now reclassified and rejoined the Big Sky.

*As I understand it. The "must have an invitation to join a conference" is a rule, but it's somewhat unknown whether you can get around it in this fashion except as a thought exercise.

 

[MountainMan]

The AAC legally carries on the history of the Big East before the split...

That's hilarious. One would think that the Big East would keep it's history as opposed to giving it to Tulsa, SMU, and Tulane and the AAC.

 

[CTMike]

That's hilarious. One would think that the Big East would keep it's history as opposed to giving it to Tulsa, SMU, and Tulane and the AAC.

It was more about who keeps any conference money (buyouts and tournament shares) than the history.

 

[MountainMan]

It's been explained a million times on here, but no. The AAC is the Big East. They sold the name to the new Big East, which just started a few years ago. And in either case, you're trying to compare currently league quality by using teams that aren't in the league anymore. Do you seriously not understand why that's stupid?

What's stupid is having Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, ECU, etc.. carry on Big East records when actual members of the original Big East still play together in a conference called the Big East. But that is realignment for ya.

 

[MountainMan]

It was more about who keeps any conference money (buyouts and tournament shares) than the history.

Gotcha. Learn something everyday with realignment it seems.

 

[jho]

That's hilarious. One would think that the Big East would keep it's history as opposed to giving it to Tulsa, SMU, and Tulane and the AAC.

More importantly, the AAC got to keep the most of the accumulated NCAA Tournament "units" from the old Big East. Check out this article which explains how the AAC still generates more in tournament payouts than any other conference although, admittedly, the gravy train is slowing down.
Big East basketball not among the top money-makers

 

[CL82]

That's hilarious. One would think that the Big East would keep it's history as opposed to giving it to Tulsa, SMU, and Tulane and the AAC.

Hmmn stupid or trolling? I'll go with trolling but let's test that.

As has been said previously, the American is the league that UConn has been in since 1979. When the Catholic 7 left the conference sold it's name to them. Connecticut and Cinci got the lion's share of those fees. The American continued to collect all NCAA credits earned under the name the Big East. It continues to have it's offices in the same building in Providence.

Here's a link to the announcement of the name change on the old Big East website. LINKY

So we'll see from your next post if you were stupid (ill informed) or trolling.

 

[Husky92]

Hmmn stupid or trolling? I'll go with trolling but let's test that.

As has been said previously, the American is the league that UConn has been in since 1979. When the Catholic 7 left the conference sold it's name to them. Connecticut and Cinci got the lion's share of those fees. The American continued to collect all NCAA credits earned under the name the Big East. It continues to have it's offices in the same building in Providence.

Here's a link to the announcement of the name change on the old Big East website. LINKY

So we'll see from your next post if you were stupid (ill informed) or trolling.

You handled that far better than I have been this morning. Well done.

 

[MountainMan]

Hmmn stupid or trolling? I'll go with trolling but let's test that.

As has been said previously, the American is the league that UConn has been in since 1979. When the Catholic 7 left the conference sold it's name to them. Connecticut and Cinci got the lion's share of those fees. The American continued to collect all NCAA credits earned under the name the Big East. It continues to have it's offices in the same building in Providence.

Here's a link to the announcement of the name change on the old Big East website. LINKY

So we'll see from your next post if you were stupid (ill informed) or trolling.

LOL. So here you are Insulting someone on the internet because it seems strange that the AAC carries the Big East records while the new Big East doesn't. It's not stupid or trolling at all to think that the current Big East would carry the old Big East records because they were actual members of the Big East as opposed to most of the AAC who have little to no history with the Big East conference. No idea why you feel so insecure that you need to go that route but it's unnecessary.

And Husky 92 would have had ot freak out over this?

Seriously you guys need to relax. This conversation is hardly worth getting upset about.

 

[NYUConn]

LOL. So here you are Insulting someone on the internet because it seems strange that the AAC carries the Big East records while the new Big East doesn't. It's not stupid or trolling at all to think that the current Big East would carry the old Big East records because they were actual members of the Big East as opposed to most of the AAC who have little to no history with the Big East conference. No idea why you feel so insecure that you need to go that route but it's unnecessary.

And Husky 92 would have had ot freak out over this?

Seriously you guys need to relax. This conversation is hardly worth getting upset about.

You realize the New Big East doesn't play football right? So why in god's name would would they carry the records?

 

[CL82]

LOL. So here you are Insulting someone on the internet because it seems strange that the AAC carries the Big East records while the new Big East doesn't. It's not stupid or trolling at all to think that the current Big East would carry the old Big East records because they were actual members of the Big East as opposed to most of the AAC who have little to no history with the Big East conference. No idea why you feel so insecure that you need to go that route but it's unnecessary.

And Husky 92 would have had ot freak out over this?

Seriously you guys need to relax. This conversation is hardly worth getting upset about.

.... and there it is .... troll.

Thank you for your interest in the University of Connecticut.

[Ignore]

 

[Husky25]

LOL. So here you are Insulting someone on the internet because it seems strange that the AAC carries the Big East records while the new Big East doesn't. It's not stupid or trolling at all to think that the current Big East would carry the old Big East records because they were actual members of the Big East as opposed to most of the AAC who have little to no history with the Big East conference. No idea why you feel so insecure that you need to go that route but it's unnecessary.

And Husky 92 would have had ot freak out over this?

Seriously you guys need to relax. This conversation is hardly worth getting upset about.

It's been explained ad nauseum.

 

[huskymedic]

Thinking he missed the news about Temple but...

Zach Barnett@zach_barnett 1 day ago
The Big 12 isn't the only FBS conference considering expansion - FootballScoop

 

[HuskyHawk]

What's stupid is having Tulsa, Tulane, SMU, ECU, etc.. carry on Big East records when actual members of the original Big East still play together in a conference called the Big East. But that is realignment for ya.

And it's stupid that the records of the Baltimore Colts belong to Indianapolis, that the St. Louis Cardinals are in Phoenix, and that the Baltimore Ravens are really the Cleveland Browns, despite the fact that there is a new team called the Cleveland Browns.

 

[Marty Jackson]

And it's stupid that the records of the Baltimore Colts belong to Indianapolis, that the St. Louis Cardinals are in Phoenix, and that the Baltimore Ravens are really the Cleveland Browns, despite the fact that there is a new team called the Cleveland Browns.

how about all that Jazz in Utah or the Lakes in Los Angeles.