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nd73 said:
Then who would be added(Still believe we would have large sway on the vote)? Let's pretend we don't ,who would fit the criteria that the football schools would want(FSU,Clemson,VT, Notre Dame, Miami). More likely we stay at 15 with deregulation just passed.
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To the ACC with ND, no one. That is why ND goes with 1 to the B1G because then you get the chance to add another major from say the Big 12 or maybe even the ACC at the same time. There is no one that you could persuade from an existing P5 to join the ACC.
 
TerryD said:
But that does not leave room for series or annual games against teams like Texas, Georgia, Stanford, Texas A&M, etc.. (all on ND's future schedules), plus the recently rumored games against teams like Alabama and LSU, etc...along with the Shamrock Series games in pro stadiums around the country.

This is one big reason why ND does not want to be handcuffed with a conference football schedule. 5 games a year to the ACC is bad enough.
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Then enjoy having a handicap when it comes to being in the football playoff. You get those series as an independent because you have a schedule to fill (and they are good teams to fill it with). Join a conference to enhance your chance at playing for a national championship and something has to give.

Also, the Shamrock series is a home game for ND. Could be a conference game played anywhere ND desires.
 
huskymedic said:
ESPNRittenberg 5:25pm via TweetDeck
Big 12 meetings over. My takeaway: Expansion likely, decision unlikely at late May meetings, but everyone understands status quo untenable.
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If the decision to expand comes soon, the expansion candidates will be picked within days.

So... the key is the decision to expand. Not the vetting of the candidates.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I will say that if Texas blocks expansion just to screw its conference partners over, you will see that conference become a rancid stew of open vitriol.
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That will matter to Texas why? I think it is pretty obvious through their actions to date that all they care about is UT and UT only. They know that 6 out of 10 of the current Big 12 members have little to no shot at finding a home in a P5 Conference without their direct intervention or major conference upheaval. OU has some options, KU less, OSU and WVU even slimmer. The rest are in the AAC or MWC the day the conference expires. UT is the ultimate rich kid/poor sport. All the other schools know that they can take their toys and go home at any time. Therefore many choose to remain quiet and put up with their BS.
 
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Ldandy said:
That will matter to Texas why? I think it is pretty obvious through their actions to date that all they care about is UT and UT only. They know that 6 out of 10 of the current Big 12 members have little to no shot at finding a home in a P5 Conference without their direct intervention or major conference upheaval. OU has some options, KU less, OSU and WVU even slimmer. The rest are in the AAC or MWC the day the conference expires. UT is the ultimate rich kid/poor sport. All the other schools know that they can take their toys and go home at any time. Therefore many choose to remain quiet and put up with their BS.
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This is the point that everyone glosses over because we so desperately want to be invited.

UT is not interested in being made "whole" by rolling the LHN into a B12N. UT is interested in keeping the significant revenue advantage they currently have over their fellow conference mates. They are the ultimate rich kid in that they want to always be able to say "we make more than you".

In my opinion, any decision that allows Oklahoma, Kansas & the rest of the B12 to narrow the current revenue advantage UT has will be a no go with Bevo. They don't care about preserving the B12 unless it's under their terms because they don't need to. If they really valued their competition with OK and other B12 schools they would have stood up and said "we need to look at the revenue numbers but we are committed to the B12". There has been nothing from Austin which again, IMO, means that they have no interest in playing ball. With the LHN they are already in the $35-$40MM range, they won't be at a big disadvantage when compared to the SEC & B1G and they have a $10-15MM advantage over the rest of the conference.

The TV deal runs thru 2024-25 so they can sit back & wait it out knowing that at the end of the day they will find a home regardless of what happens in CR.
 
Adam RittenbergESPN Staff Writer
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Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby on models presented to ADs/coaches today: "They looked at 14-team scenarios, they looked at a few 16-team scenarios. They looked at 12 teams, they looked at 10 teams, they looked at with a playoff, without a playoff. They looked at an 8-game schedule with a strong opponent, an 8-game schedule with a medium opponent. You name a scenario, they've looked at it."
 
bobbyinaz said:
This is the point that everyone glosses over because we so desperately want to be invited.

UT is not interested in being made "whole" by rolling the LHN into a B12N. UT is interested in keeping the significant revenue advantage they currently have over their fellow conference mates. They are the ultimate rich kid in that they want to always be able to say "we make more than you".

In my opinion, any decision that allows Oklahoma, Kansas & the rest of the B12 to narrow the current revenue advantage UT has will be a no go with Bevo. They don't care about preserving the B12 unless it's under their terms because they don't need to. If they really valued their competition with OK and other B12 schools they would have stood up and said "we need to look at the revenue numbers but we are committed to the B12". There has been nothing from Austin which again, IMO, means that they have no interest in playing ball. With the LHN they are already in the $35-$40MM range, they won't be at a big disadvantage when compared to the SEC & B1G and they have a $10-15MM advantage over the rest of the conference.

The TV deal runs thru 2024-25 so they can sit back & wait it out knowing that at the end of the day they will find a home regardless of what happens in CR.
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Agree, but I take there most recent stance as bargaining.

UT: Wait we already have a network and won't take a penny less.

B12: Okay we'll make you whole, you won't lose a buck.

UT: Well but we've got this network, it's a branding thing. We can't give that up.

B12: You can keep the name in Texas.

UT: Well, if we are just keeping the same payout, why should we change anything? (Waits to see if B12 keeps conceding ground.)
 
CL82 said:
Agree, but I take there most recent stance as bargaining.

UT: Wait we already have a network and won't take a penny less.

B12: Okay we'll make you whole, you won't lose a buck.

UT: Well but we've got this network, it's a branding thing. We can't give that up.

B12: You can keep the name in Texas.

UT: Well, if we are just keeping the same payout, why should we change anything? (Waits to see if B12 keeps conceding ground.)
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It could very well be a negotiating ploy and I hope you're right.

It's just my opinion that if that were the case, they would've made some statement about being "committed" to the B12. Any small indication coming from Austin that they really want to make the B12 work long term would put all of this nonsense to rest. With all the swirling rumors, and with nearly every journalist outside of Austin casting them as the villain, they have remained silent. I don't believe that's an indication of them willing to play nice with everyone else
 
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bobbyinaz said:
It could very well be a negotiating ploy and I hope you're right.

It's just my opinion that if that were the case, they would've made some statement about being "committed" to the B12. Any small indication coming from Austin that they really want to make the B12 work long term would put all of this nonsense to rest. With all the swirling rumors, and with nearly every journalist outside of Austin casting them as the villain, they have remained silent. I don't believe that's an indication of them willing to play nice with everyone else
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If everyone knows that you go along in the end, saying that you may not has no negotiating power.
 
Bohls: On the search for an AD, better NBA officiating, Big 12 growth


By Kirk Bohls - American-Statesman Staff

This promises to be an interesting month as the Big 12 prepares for a meeting of athletic directors at the end of May to discuss the conference’s future concerning expansion and a possible television network. I still see no willingness on Texas’ part to fold the Longhorn Network into a Big 12 network, even if the league gives the Longhorns an extra $15 million share to cover its LHN income, because, the Texas source said, “we would get the same money, but lose our branding and having our own channel? Not very compelling. If we get rid of LHN, it will be to change conferences, in my opinion.”

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/sports/bohls-on-the-search-for-an-ad-better-nba-officiati/nrGkg/
 
Source: Bearcats are "Very well positioned" if Big 12 expands
Jeremy Rauch
Posted: 05/04/2016 8:53 PM

CLIFTON, OH (FOX19) - A source close to University of Cincinnati athletics told FOX19 NOW the Bearcats are “Very well positioned” to join the Big 12 if the conference approves expansion later this month.

Big 12 coaches and athletic directors met on Wednesday to discuss the potential of expanding from a 10-team league, to a 12-team or 14-team league to improve their chances of competing for the College Football Playoff by adding a conference championship.

Several teams like Cincinnati, BYU, UConn, Houston, Memphis and Central Florida have been mentioned as possible candidates for the Big 12 in their hopes of expanding.

That same source told FOX19 NOW they are growing more optimistic each day that the Bearcats would be a favorite candidate to join the Big 12.

UC is nearing the end of their third season as a member of the American Athletic Conference.

Copyright 2016 WXIX. All rights reserved.
 
So, people in Austin are saying there is no incentive to expand. Bowlsby is suggesting that expansion is being discussed. Cincy claims they are in. And still total silence from the people that matter in Storrs. This is going to be a long couple of weeks.
 
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djct1999 said:
... And still total silence from the people that matter in Storrs. This is going to be a long couple of weeks.
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ICYMI:

jacobscourant May 03, 2:29pm via Twitter Web Client
Getting number of tweets/emails about UConn and Big 12: Talked to the highest sources in Storrs other day. They remain in holding pattern.

jacobscourant May 03, 2:32pm via Twitter Web Client
It's up to Big 12. UConn believes it has learned the line between being letting its positives be known to Big 12 & publicly begging.

jacobscourant May 03, 2:37pm via Twitter Web Client
This is UConn's pivate take: Power 5 conferences expand now for national not regional footprint. With NY, this can work to UConn advantage.

jacobscourant May 03, 2:38pm via Twitter Web Client
Just remember it's those Big 12 presidents doing the picking. They're the ones with the power.
 
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djct1999 said:
So, people in Austin are saying there is no incentive to expand. Bowlsby is suggesting that expansion is being discussed. Cincy claims they are in. And still total silence from the people that matter in Storrs. This is going to be a long couple of weeks.
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Would you rather the people in Storrs live-tweeting their dinner at their favorite Norman, OK restaurant?
 
Ultimately, Texas knows a "status quo" vote pushes Oklahoma out the door. Which they may be fine with by the way if they are looking to move to a different P5 in 9-10 years.

One thing I wonder is if this Big 12 network does become created do the smaller Big 12 schools push for the GOR to be extended out far into the future far away from the B1G's next round of contracts in 2023ish in order to keep Oklahoma and Texas from being courted.
 
John E. Hoover ‏@johnehoover 6h6 hours ago

I do think they'll announce in June that they've voted to begin the expansion process. Which will take 8-12 months.

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Does anyone have an answer as to why Tim Brando is pumping up BYU so hard on his Twitter??
 
Ts5034 said:
Does anyone have an answer as to why Tim Brando is pumping up BYU so hard on his Twitter??
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Brando is "dear friends" with AAC commish Mike Aresco. With Big 12 expansion likely, it's increasingly looking like teams will be taken from the AAC. The fewer teams from the American that are taken, the better it is for the conference and Aresco.
 
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jostar1 said:
John E. Hoover ‏@johnehoover 6h6 hours ago

I do think they'll announce in June that they've voted to begin the expansion process. Which will take 8-12 months.

John E. HooverVerified account
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Co-host of Further Review w Hoover & Rew on The Franchise Tulsa ... Columnist at http://TheFranchiseOK.com ... Listen at am1270/fm107.9 in Tulsa, fm107.7 in OKC

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So expansion teams will be invited in June and will join in 8-12 months;), is what he is saying.:rolleyes:
 
jfuchs91 said:
Brando is "dear friends" with AAC commish Mike Aresco. With Big 12 expansion likely, it's increasingly looking like teams will be taken from the AAC. The fewer teams from the American that are taken, the better it is for the conference and Aresco.
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Aresco is a UConn law grad and a Connecticut resident. You really think he wants us to stay in the AAC? Seriously?

Where's @Fishy ??
 
Butch said:
Aresco is a UConn law grad and a Connecticut resident. You really think he wants us to stay in the AAC? Seriously?

Where's @Fishy ??
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Yeah, I think he does actually. His job is maximizing the AAC and keeping it viable and relevant. UConn is a huge contributor to those goals.

FWIW, it has always bugged me that he is quick to hype the other American programs, but is reserved in his praise of UConn.
 
CL82 said:
Yeah, I think he does actually. His job is maximizing the AAC and keeping it viable and relevant. UConn is a huge contributor to those goals.

FWIW, it has always bugged me that he is quick to hype the other American programs, but is reserved in his praise of UConn.
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The conspiracy theorists would say that UConn has already secretly (ala L'ville) put in its required intent to the leave the conference notice and that Aresco has to pump up the brand minus the team that's leaving. Or so the theory goes.
 
Butch said:
Aresco is a UConn law grad and a Connecticut resident. You really think he wants us to stay in the AAC? Seriously?

Where's @Fishy ??
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Aresco absolutely wants UConn to stay in the AAC. UConn gives the AAC significance. It is arguably the most athletically prestigious program in G5. Aresco's current $Million salary depends on keeping the AAC relevant.
 
Hey look another media member against B12 expansion... and who also thinks UConn is probably not in the top 2 anyway:

 
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