Kansas Facing Major Allegations

[intlzncster]

NCAA Notice of Allegations

Statement from Head Men’s Basketball Coach Bill Self:

“By the NCAA’s own admission through its public statements early this summer, it’s no secret that there is tremendous pressure on the NCAA to respond to the federal court proceedings involving college basketball. Compelled to reassure member institutions and the general public that it can police its member institutions, the NCAA enforcement staff has responded in an unnecessarily aggressive manner in submitting today’s unsubstantiated Notice of Allegations, and I, as well as the University, will vigorously dispute what has been alleged.

In its haste and attempt to regain control, the enforcement staff has created a false narrative regarding me and our basketball program. The narrative is based on innuendo, half-truths, misimpressions and mischaracterizations. In reality, we all know there is only one version of the truth. The truth is based on verifiable facts, and I am confident the facts we will demonstrate in our case will expose the inaccuracies of the enforcement staff’s narrative.

I have always taken pride in my commitment to rules compliance and led programs that operate with integrity and within the rules, and I am proud of the success that we have achieved at each program along the way. Every student-athlete who has ever played for me and their families know we follow the rules.

These allegations are serious and damaging to the University and to myself, and I hate that KU has to go through this process. With our staff’s full cooperation, these allegations will be addressed within NCAA procedures and with urgency and resolve. I will strenuously defend myself and the program, but I will respect the process and will not speak to the details of the case.”

Ballsy return serve.

 

[uchusky32]

NCAA Notice of Allegations

Statement from Head Men’s Basketball Coach Bill Self:

“By the NCAA’s own admission through its public statements early this summer, it’s no secret that there is tremendous pressure on the NCAA to respond to the federal court proceedings involving college basketball. Compelled to reassure member institutions and the general public that it can police its member institutions, the NCAA enforcement staff has responded in an unnecessarily aggressive manner in submitting today’s unsubstantiated Notice of Allegations, and I, as well as the University, will vigorously dispute what has been alleged.

In its haste and attempt to regain control, the enforcement staff has created a false narrative regarding me and our basketball program. The narrative is based on innuendo, half-truths, misimpressions and mischaracterizations. In reality, we all know there is only one version of the truth. The truth is based on verifiable facts, and I am confident the facts we will demonstrate in our case will expose the inaccuracies of the enforcement staff’s narrative.

I have always taken pride in my commitment to rules compliance and led programs that operate with integrity and within the rules, and I am proud of the success that we have achieved at each program along the way. Every student-athlete who has ever played for me and their families know we follow the rules.

These allegations are serious and damaging to the University and to myself, and I hate that KU has to go through this process. With our staff’s full cooperation, these allegations will be addressed within NCAA procedures and with urgency and resolve. I will strenuously defend myself and the program, but I will respect the process and will not speak to the details of the case.”

Sounds innocent to me!

 

[DarthGrumpy]

I am not holding my breath here; but, the NCAA could go after Kansas hard in this case. I was hoping of the same at UNC not because the NCAA wants to poke one of it's largest cash cows; but, because what happened there caught the attending of the university accreditation board (Southern Association of Colleges and Schools). A loss of accreditation could have killed the University itself, not just its basketball program. Unfortunately, they followed the NCAA's lead and punted on the issue, too.

https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/editorials/article186179403.html

The difference at Kansas is that the FBI is involved, which could lead to wider legal issues for Kansas and the NCAA as a whole and could also attract additional attention from Congress, which the NCAA has been trying to avoid for decades. I am not going to hold my breath...

 

[tentoes4rings]

I am not holding my breath here; but, the NCAA could go after Kansas hard in this case. I was hoping of the same at UNC not because the NCAA wants to poke one of it's largest cash cows; but, because what happened there caught the attending of the university accreditation board (Southern Association of Colleges and Schools). A loss of accreditation could have killed the University itself, not just its basketball program. Unfortunately, they followed the NCAA's lead and punted on the issue, too.

https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/editorials/article186179403.html

The difference at Kansas is that the FBI is involved, which could lead to wider legal issues for Kansas and the NCAA as a whole and could also attract additional attention from Congress, which the NCAA has been trying to avoid for decades. I am not going to hold my breath...

I also won’t hold my breath but I think Kansas might not get the full teflon treatment UNC or Duke would have to get. One of those schools would need to take a ship on Emmert’s face at half court of a nationally televised game to get in any trouble.

 

[RichZ]

CBS Sports fluff piece on Kansas issue.
This says it was written by Norlander, but it reads like it was written by the assistant PR director for the University.

 

[gtcam]

I hold my breath, waiting for UConn to be penalized in this case because of Lew Perkins.

The only thing Lew would be penalized for is taking the whole basket of rolls at the buffet

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

The only thing Lew would be penalized for is taking the whole basket of rolls at the buffet

That could be enough to get UConn a post-season ban in the present case.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

I also won’t hold my breath but I think Kansas might not get the full teflon treatment UNC or Duke would have to get. One of those schools would need to take a ship on Emmert’s face at half court of a nationally televised game to get in any trouble.

Or suing him for gross mismanagement....

 

[huskymedic]

 

[ctchamps]

NCAA Notice of Allegations

Statement from Head Men’s Basketball Coach Bill Self:

“By the NCAA’s own admission through its public statements early this summer, it’s no secret that there is tremendous pressure on the NCAA to respond to the federal court proceedings involving college basketball. Compelled to reassure member institutions and the general public that it can police its member institutions, the NCAA enforcement staff has responded in an unnecessarily aggressive manner in submitting today’s unsubstantiated Notice of Allegations, and I, as well as the University, will vigorously dispute what has been alleged.

In its haste and attempt to regain control, the enforcement staff has created a false narrative regarding me and our basketball program. The narrative is based on innuendo, half-truths, misimpressions and mischaracterizations. In reality, we all know there is only one version of the truth. The truth is based on verifiable facts, and I am confident the facts we will demonstrate in our case will expose the inaccuracies of the enforcement staff’s narrative.

I have always taken pride in my commitment to rules compliance and led programs that operate with integrity and within the rules, and I am proud of the success that we have achieved at each program along the way. Every student-athlete who has ever played for me and their families know we follow the rules.

These allegations are serious and damaging to the University and to myself, and I hate that KU has to go through this process. With our staff’s full cooperation, these allegations will be addressed within NCAA procedures and with urgency and resolve. I will strenuously defend myself and the program, but I will respect the process and will not speak to the details of the case.”

Translation for those who don’t want to read the entire statement: “Agenda based fake news originated from The Boneyard to malign an innocent university in retaliation for justifiable NCAA treatment against Connecticut University otherwise known as Yukon”.

 

[CL82]

One of those schools would need to take a ship on Emmert’s face at half court of a nationally televised game to get in any trouble.

So something like this?

 

[freescooter]

I heard Self is handing out $10 bills to kids taking admissions tours so Kansas can use the Carolina defense. We pay regular students too

 

[McLovin]

KU charged with lack of institutional control, more

The NCAA has charged Kansas basketball with five Level I violations, among them a lack of institutional control and head coach responsibility violations on the part of Bill Self. The football program was also hit with two Level II violations.

www.espn.com

Article from last night... ends like this


>>> David Ridpath, president of the Drake Group, a think tank dedicated to protecting academic integrity in college sports, and an associate professor of sports business at Ohio University, said it's too early to tell whether the NCAA can make a dent in cleaning up college basketball corruption.

"[The notice of allegations] is not surprising," Ridpath said. "But it's one thing to allege and another to know what's going to be the end game. I think we saw that in the North Carolina case [involving alleged academic misconduct]. I have my doubts that the membership really truly, truly wants to punish these schools and punish coaches like Bill Self. At the end of the day, whether he knew or didn't know, he should have known or did know. My guess is Bill Self probably knew a lot more than he's letting on.

"If we're going to have these rules, they need to be enforced. Until we see the end game, I don't know how worried Kansas should be about these allegations because it still has to go through the infractions process. The committee on infractions has shown in the past that it's very reticent to punish some schools. We'll have to wait and see. If they're doing their job, Kansas should be absolutely eviscerated." <<<

 

[CTBasketball]

The NCAA will probably make them forfeit all post-season results, knowing that Kansas doesn’t win in March anyways.

They’ll let them keep their “coveted” regular season titles.

 

[ctchamps]

KU charged with lack of institutional control, more

The NCAA has charged Kansas basketball with five Level I violations, among them a lack of institutional control and head coach responsibility violations on the part of Bill Self. The football program was also hit with two Level II violations.

www.espn.com

Article from last night... ends like this


>>> David Ridpath, president of the Drake Group, a think tank dedicated to protecting academic integrity in college sports, and an associate professor of sports business at Ohio University, said it's too early to tell whether the NCAA can make a dent in cleaning up college basketball corruption.

"[The notice of allegations] is not surprising," Ridpath said. "But it's one thing to allege and another to know what's going to be the end game. I think we saw that in the North Carolina case [involving alleged academic misconduct]. I have my doubts that the membership really truly, truly wants to punish these schools and punish coaches like Bill Self. At the end of the day, whether he knew or didn't know, he should have known or did know. My guess is Bill Self probably knew a lot more than he's letting on.

"If we're going to have these rules, they need to be enforced. Until we see the end game, I don't know how worried Kansas should be about these allegations because it still has to go through the infractions process. The committee on infractions has shown in the past that it's very reticent to punish some schools. We'll have to wait and see. If they're doing their job, Kansas should be absolutely eviscerated." <<<

There won't be any congressional action on this. They postured a few years back, but that was never going to go beyond posturing. Too many universities in too many states. No way would it be accepted by the populations in those states for them to do the right thing.

Something might get done if the universities who were punished severely by the NCAA for lesser infractions were to sue the NCAA if they don't act on this current corruption. I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me some schools could make a case for damages based on the inequity of treatment.

 

[Scrutineer]

NCAA Notice of Allegations

Statement from Head Men’s Basketball Coach Bill Self:

“By the NCAA’s own admission through its public statements early this summer, it’s no secret that there is tremendous pressure on the NCAA to respond to the federal court proceedings involving college basketball. Compelled to reassure member institutions and the general public that it can police its member institutions, the NCAA enforcement staff has responded in an unnecessarily aggressive manner in submitting today’s unsubstantiated Notice of Allegations, and I, as well as the University, will vigorously dispute what has been alleged.

In its haste and attempt to regain control, the enforcement staff has created a false narrative regarding me and our basketball program. The narrative is based on innuendo, half-truths, misimpressions and mischaracterizations. In reality, we all know there is only one version of the truth. The truth is based on verifiable facts, and I am confident the facts we will demonstrate in our case will expose the inaccuracies of the enforcement staff’s narrative.

I have always taken pride in my commitment to rules compliance and led programs that operate with integrity and within the rules, and I am proud of the success that we have achieved at each program along the way. Every student-athlete who has ever played for me and their families know we follow the rules.

These allegations are serious and damaging to the University and to myself, and I hate that KU has to go through this process. With our staff’s full cooperation, these allegations will be addressed within NCAA procedures and with urgency and resolve. I will strenuously defend myself and the program, but I will respect the process and will not speak to the details of the case.”

"In its haste and attempt to regain control, the enforcement staff has created a false narrative regarding me................"

Pretty aggressive comments from Self about the motives of the NCAA. Must be worried, or maybe thinks the best defense is a great offense.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Ballsy return serve.

So Self is saying the NCAA has lost control and is trying to get it back by controlling a program whose lost control? Ok I think I got it!!

 

[CL82]

"In its haste and attempt to regain control, the enforcement staff has created a false narrative regarding me......"

Pretty aggressive comments from Self about the motives of the NCAA. Must be worried, or maybe thinks the best defense is a great offense.

He's caught red handed. His only shot is smear the accuser.

 

[freescooter]

Really this is just the tip of the iceberg. The whole NCAA system needs to be blown up. Get rid of 1- done. Get rid of the transfer portal and grad transfers. Cut the schedule to 24 games regular season. Eliminate the bs early season tournaments in exotic locations that draw flies for fans. Start the season on the Saturday after Thanksgiving. Play all games on campus. And cap coaching salaries. And shut down Kansas Louisville Arizona and any other program famous for slime. Make them sit out s year like Kentucky did in the Fifties.

 

[intlzncster]

Really this is just the tip of the iceberg. The whole NCAA system needs to be blown up. Get rid of 1- done. Get rid of the transfer portal and grad transfers. Cut the schedule to 24 games regular season. Eliminate the bs early season tournaments in exotic locations that draw flies for fans. Start the season on the Saturday after Thanksgiving. Play all games on campus. And cap coaching salaries. And shut down Kansas Louisville Arizona and any other program famous for slime. Make them sit out s year like Kentucky did in the Fifties.

Most of those things don't accomplish anything.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Maybe the best moment of life as a sports fan.

 

[ctchamps]

Most of those things don't accomplish anything.

Always had boosters and gamblers corrupting the system. There were always rogue coaches. But as the money got bigger the amount of rule breaking increased with more participating. Now it's systemic and organized. The networks had demonstrated how much money could be made in college sports and the universities wanted a piece of the action. So they set up their own sports platforms. They no longer have incentive to self regulate.

The networks, watching their profits erode, made a decision to limit the erosion. Hence the big discrepancy between the power 5 and the rest. Yes I know football dictates the money. But the universities who currently control the market are smart to ensure that the market stays confined. It's a perfect symbiotic relationship between the p5 universities and networks. Not complicit enough to warrant anti trust action but successful enough to keep the hungry satisfied so content is provided with the lions share of monies going to a smaller number of entities.

The shoe companies recognized this logic and wanted to steer players to a smaller number of their affiliated institutions so as contracts came up they could offer large monies to smaller and smaller numbers of institutions. They got caught and now the dirt is flying.

The NCAA has long been obsolete. They have been treading water for some time. They prolonged their vulnerability and sham oversight with the APR. They did what they could to stop the erosion but it was never going to happen. Too much money inertia. Whether they want to or not they feel they have to cater to the money.

The have nots have a couple of cards to play.

The first is Content. If they all united (probably won't happen because the weak rarely have the ability to stay together) all the universities outside of the P5 could end the NCAA oversight and band together as one entity with the idea of selling themselves to the highest bidder. To fight the football revenue "monopoly" this new group can then set up a system where they select 16 universities as "football programs" with no holds barred regarding academics or monies given to recruits. Like it or not that's the system that currently exists if not with every university certainly enough universities as to eliminate fairness. Time to stop pretending.

The institutions in this new entity not selected get a more equitable revenue sharing than currently exists. In addition there could be another number of universities at the B level who move up to the A level depending on performance and attendance with those not performing at the A level moving down. This would prevent the system from stagnating and offer other universities the opportunity to advance, something that is not available to them today. Now the P5 would be the cumbersome model with 100 or so teams fighting for football recruits as compared to 16 teams fighting for those same recruits. The 16 universities would have to be "subsidized" with monies from a new hungry media platform that has the vision to compete with contracts given to the P5. Certainly risky so I'm not holding my breath. But with high rollers like Bezos aggressively seeking content for his platform anything is possible.

The second is no longer pretending the system can be fixed. Even if people are too fearful on taking a chance with the above model removing oversight could severely damage the P5 and hence the networks that have propped up those universities. Boosters no longer restrained level the playing field when it comes to money dispersion. If several Pedunk University boosters start buying the better football players coming out of high school the P5 product starts to become poorer and the attending media contracts become less sustainable.

 

[HooperScooper]

But, either way, the bottom line is this: it's really hard to envision a scenario where Kansas officials are able to successfully argue their program shouldn't be punished severely for the fact that Adidas officials were aggressively pursuing and executing deals for prospects in an attempt to ensure the apparel company's biggest basketball program remained atop the Big 12.

That doesn't mean they won't try, though.

The NCAA is locked and loaded on Kansas, and it's probably not going to miss

The Jayhawks can cry foul all they want, but it's unlikely the noise will save them from punishment

www.cbssports.com

 

[zls44]

He's so consistently so wrong about everything that Self will probably end up getting a raise.