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Kadary Richmond Transferring

Storrs South said:
Imagine thinking this. Imagine enjoying a steak dinner in a house that is burning to the ground. Wild fanbase.

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tcf15 said:
Was just going to say, strong 2017-18 UConn vibes coming out of Syracuse these days.
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hoping for them to be 2015-2016 vibes....gives us more time to enjoy
 
7774 said:
1. Kadary would be amazing. We'd go into next year guaranteed to have an actual point guard on our team. People saying he could play minutes at the 2 or 3 must never watch this kid. He's 100% point guard and having him on the court playing any position other than point guard is a complete waste of his talent. It's really hard to find actual point guards.

2. Anyone who wants Allen Griffin within 100 miles of our team is nuts. Syracuse fans would love it if he transferred to UConn, it would be a small bright spot in their complete dumpster fire.
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While it would not be the only possibility, Cole and Kadary would be an easy backcourt to imagine together, as Cole can play off the ball on offense and guard the point on D, and Kadary is easily big and athletic enough to guard 2s while running the point.

If Hurley wants him, I want him. If that means someone not as good doesn't get minutes, tough friggin cookies. Enjoy your role on the team or go somewhere else.
 
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businesslawyer said:
While it would not be the only possibility, Cole and Kadary would be an easy backcourt to imagine together, as Cole can play off the ball on offense and guard the point on D, and Kadary is easily big and athletic enough to guard 2s while running the point.

If Hurley wants him, I want him. If that means someone not as good doesn't get minutes, tough friggin cookies. Enjoy your role on the team or go somewhere else.
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Well said. It's super weird that some people don't want to offend guys already on this team. They're big boys and know how this business works. Seems to me that barring any big changes, we're pretty often referring to Gaffney being the odd man out. I don't WANT the kid to transfer, he's a really good piece on this team and looked dominant at times. But if he's going to have this huge mental hurdle about being aggressive and playing fast, well, he's going to get recruited over.
 
businesslawyer said:
While it would not be the only possibility, Cole and Kadary would be an easy backcourt to imagine together, as Cole can play off the ball on offense and guard the point on D, and Kadary is easily big and athletic enough to guard 2s while running the point.

If Hurley wants him, I want him. If that means someone not as good doesn't get minutes, tough friggin cookies. Enjoy your role on the team or go somewhere else.
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I don't disagree, but the players not getting minutes in that scenario are likely Diggins and Gaffney, and you could see a negative narrative developing with two transfers supplanting two homegrown direct recruits.

I'm all for whatever results in the best team, and I sure like the sound of having a 6'5" starting PG; but to read in another thread that was just posted about how vaunted Diggins is seems a bit in conflict with the notion that he'd welcome having his lane clogged before he even sets foot on campus by a guy who has made clear that he wants a starting position where he can showcase his skills.
 
businesslawyer said:
While it would not be the only possibility, Cole and Kadary would be an easy backcourt to imagine together, as Cole can play off the ball on offense and guard the point on D, and Kadary is easily big and athletic enough to guard 2s while running the point.

If Hurley wants him, I want him. If that means someone not as good doesn't get minutes, tough friggin cookies. Enjoy your role on the team or go somewhere else.
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As much as I love Cole, I'd rather have Gaffney there. Not that Gaffney's any better, but he'd get exposed with a bigger guard posting up on him. Gillespie would be coming back and he basically camped out in the paint against Cole.
 
8893 said:
I don't disagree, but the players not getting minutes in that scenario are likely Diggins and Gaffney, and you could see a negative narrative developing with two transfers supplanting two homegrown direct recruits.

I'm all for whatever results in the best team, and I sure like the sound of having a 6'5" starting PG; but to read in another thread that was just posted about how vaunted Diggins is seems a bit in conflict with the notion that he'd welcome having his lane clogged before he even sets foot on campus by a guy who has made clear that he wants a starting position where he can showcase his skills.
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Diggins/Cole and Kadary or some other guard will all get 20+ minutes if they're good enough. Diggins may not be as talented right away but he has a unique skill set that's hard to keep off the court.

Gaffney seems the odd man out right now. He seems smart and like a great guy, but if he can't overcome his mental hurdles with being aggressive and playing fast, he is going to get recruited over. If he decides to play like he did in spurts this year when he looked absolutely dominant it will be a different story. I'm not holding my breath though.
 
ZenConn said:
As much as I love Cole, I'd rather have Gaffney there. Not that Gaffney's any better, but he'd get exposed with a bigger guard posting up on him. Gillespie would be coming back and he basically camped out in the paint against Cole.
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That's why you play matchup dependent. If Cole starts getting posted up, you either just switch the defensive matchup to put Jackson/Kadary/Hawkins on him, or take Cole out and run with a 6'5+ PG. When you have wings that pass as well as Jackson or Richmond does, you have that luxury.

Cole did really well on defense against some of the top guards in the conference though. I wouldn't assume he won't hold his own next year.
 
husky429 said:
That's why you play matchup dependent. If Cole starts getting posted up, you either just switch the defensive matchup to put Jackson/Kadary/Hawkins on him, or take Cole out and run with a 6'5+ PG. When you have wings that pass as well as Jackson or Richmond does, you have that luxury.

Cole did really well on defense against some of the top guards in the conference though. I wouldn't assume he won't hold his own next year.
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I agree they can play it by ear but I don't see Cole getting switched off of guarding a point guard to guarding a shooting guard. This is where the bigger guards we have should step in. Both Hawkins and Diggins are freshman next year so I'm tempering my expectations and it looks like from all indications, Kadary isn't coming here.
 
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Hurleyman216 said:
My only concern with bringing in Kadary if he wanted to come here is if it made Diggins reconsider coming.
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I don’t think it is gonna be an issue.

If he’s feeling burned by Syracuse in terms of playing time, he’s almost certainly not going to come into a more crowded situation here.

But it’d be great to get him.
 
8893 said:
I don't disagree, but the players not getting minutes in that scenario are likely Diggins and Gaffney, and you could see a negative narrative developing with two transfers supplanting two homegrown direct recruits.

I'm all for whatever results in the best team, and I sure like the sound of having a 6'5" starting PG; but to read in another thread that was just posted about how vaunted Diggins is seems a bit in conflict with the notion that he'd welcome having his lane clogged before he even sets foot on campus by a guy who has made clear that he wants a starting position where he can showcase his skills.
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Kadary isn't a grad transfer. With last year not counting, he has four years of eligibility. I have no idea if he's better than Diggins or not, but if he's so much better that there aren't minutes available for Diggins, then so what? We've upgraded the point for the next 3 years.

Yes, I get that top 50 recruits won't sit on the bench for too long if better guys are in front of them. But the key part to that sentence is BETTER GUYS ARE INFRONT OF THEM.
 
If KR decides to come to Storrs--Assuming Dan Hurley sees a fit--There is no reason why he and Sool couldn't co-exist on the floor at the same time. Like a Bazz/Boat duo with PG skills

Looks to me like KR has some positional flexibility between the 1-2-3 spots
 
Regardless of how you feel about boeheim, he's been around the block more than a few times and he's had his share of PTP'ers. Maybe there's something more to the story here.
 
Kolumbo said:
Regardless of how you feel about boeheim, he's been around the block more than a few times and he's had his share of PTP'ers. Maybe there's something more to the story here.
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The story is that Boeheim consistently played a kid who stunk in front of Richmond, consistently told the media that Richmond was out of shape and not ready to play when he was clearly a better player than the kid he was sitting behind, and he was likely looking at more of the same next year.
 
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Storrs South said:
This is the group of schools Cuse competes against now for talent. Sounds like they will land him.

Looks and feels like how the KO era ended.

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I agree with the parallel.
Big difference is the NCAA tourney run each made as the ship sank... KO got UConn a championship, Boeheim made Sweet 16.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
The story is that Boeheim consistently played a kid who stunk in front of Richmond, consistently told the media that Richmond was out of shape and not ready to play when he was clearly a better player than the kid he was sitting behind, and he was likely looking at more of the same next year.
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Seemingly. I know a lot of people would like to believe that. I'm just saying, maybe.

 
Kolumbo said:
Seemingly. I know a lot of people would like to believe that. I'm just saying, maybe.

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I suppose. Although everything I said can be verified except the part about next season. Girard does stink. He did play in front of him. The team was far better with Richmond on the court, and Boeheim did regularly criticize Richmond's fitness and readiness. If you want to make Boeheim the hero here, your prerogative. The fact that he's one of three leaving thus far doesn't help your cause.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
Akok
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akok hasnt shown he's a good enough shooter to play stretch 4 but he's definitely a good enough shooter to play stretch 5

right now he's listed at 215... i'm not sure that's accurate but if he can add another 5 lbs then i'd love him at C

the problem is i don't think he can keep adding weight without risking further injury to his legs. maybe another 5lbs is ok idk
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
I suppose. Although everything I said can be verified except the part about next season. Girard does stink. He did play in front of him. The team was far better with Richmond on the court, and Boeheim did regularly criticize Richmond's fitness and readiness. If you want to make Boeheim the hero here, your prerogative. The fact that he's one of three leaving thus far doesn't help your cause.
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What? I didn't dispute anything you said. Geezus. If you put your butthurt aside for a while you might be more rational. I'm saying maybe there's a reason boeheim did the opposite of what everyone else would have done, including orange nation. Even Calhoun had his share of players who were in the doghouse.
 
UChusky916 said:
Big difference is the NCAA tourney run each made as the ship sank... KO got UConn a championship, Boeheim made Sweet 16.
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The ship was on cruise control from Captain Calhoun when we won the championship. The sinking didnt start for a few years.

agree that current cuse feels a lot like us at the end of the KO era, although their on court product isnt nearly as bad at least not yet.
 
UChusky916 said:
I agree with the parallel.
Big difference is the NCAA tourney run each made as the ship sank... KO got UConn a championship, Boeheim made Sweet 16.
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I would equate KO's championship run in 2014 with Cuse's Final Four run 5 years ago.

I would equate KO's first round win over Colorado in 2016 to this year's run to the Sweet Sixteen for Cuse

Then the following year it all fell apart starting 2016-17. That's about what Cuse looks like right now. Only difference was UConn was preseason ranked top 25 that year.

If we follow the KO path of self destruction, that means Boeheim only has two years left coaching.
 
bendm said:
akok hasnt shown he's a good enough shooter to play stretch 4 but he's definitely a good enough shooter to play stretch 5

right now he's listed at 215... i'm not sure that's accurate but if he can add another 5 lbs then i'd love him at C

the problem is i don't think he can keep adding weight without risking further injury to his legs. maybe another 5lbs is ok idk
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I know the numbers don’t back it up right now but when I watch akok shoot I think he has the ability to be a great shooter (hopefully a fully healthy summer will bridge that gap)
 
ZenConn said:
As much as I love Cole, I'd rather have Gaffney there. Not that Gaffney's any better, but he'd get exposed with a bigger guard posting up on him. Gillespie would be coming back and he basically camped out in the paint against Cole.
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Sometimes it is okay to play zone when match-ups are not working in your favor. I think I would have at least tried it a few possessions of it as Gillespie just destroyed us in man the last time we played Nova.
 
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