Illinois Post Game Thread

[RuffRuff]

Any idea why Mullins didn’t even sit on the bench when he was not in the game was just standing in the back tunnel ?

He was riding a bike.

 

[TheHorde]

Love Reed - might be my favorite player on the team. Have you seen any of the background stuff on him? Hurley having to shift him from Teddy Bear to Kodiak? I am not bashing him - I'm simply saying that he's a softie. My god people, take the poles out of your collective butts.

If his favorite city is Austin, then I’d be really disappointed in him.

 

[freshler40]

I think you're seeing the TV reset. With my naked eyes in real time, I never saw the 30. You caught it instantly. Great job.

But when I watch it, I just see the 20. And it wasn't a bothced reset or anything wrong by the timekeeper. He saw Reibe come down with it, hit the button, and the clock reset at 2:31. This is what I wrote in my first post on the matter. I do not think you'll find a screenshot showing the 20 second time clock at 2:32.

But here's the larger point: This is what happens exactly on every single play. The timekeeper waits for the player to grab possession, and only then does the clock reset. It doesn't reset as soon as the ball touched the player's hands.

Everything that happened was really proper EXCEPT for the reset after the Karaban shot and (POSSIBLY) the refs allowing Malachi counting Malachi's shot (even though I think it left his hand after time expired). But I don't know the rule on that. Seems right that if you're fouled and the ball is in your hand, then continuation should not be a factor -- but again, I don't know the rule on that.

We were told to play until you hear a whistle, none were blown until Smith was fouled. What's the problem here?

 

[TheHorde]

We were told to play until you hear a whistle, none were blown until Smith was fouled. What's the problem here?

Exactly this. If the refs didn’t see the ball hit the rim, then they should have blown the whistle to stop play when they saw the shot clock reset.

 

[amishboy]

As much as I enjoyed the win, I still tend to focus on triviality, rather than, say, clock violations. So my thought is, even if your team color is orange, it’s still not a good look on coaches. I don’t remember Jim Boeheim, Rick Barnes, Bruce Pearl, Shaka Smart, or any other coach trying to be orange.

 

[Leebo]

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We already know that though. The initial 20 second clock appears at 2:31. Malachi fouled at 2:11. Malachi shoots at 2:10.

I haven't gone back to look at it myself, but I'm talking about the timeline in an actual video editor, not the whole seconds of the TV display.

If what you're referring to was sufficient to determine it, no one would be disagreeing.

 

[upstater]

I haven't gone back to look at it myself, but I'm talking about the timeline in an actual video editor, not the whole seconds of the TV display.

If what you're referring to was sufficient to determine it, no one would be disagreeing.

Isn't it arbitrary though? I mean, it's arbitrary when the timekeeper hits the reset button after they determine the player came down with the rebound and kept possession.

Refs looked at it, they wouldn't have made the determination he was fouled at 21 if he was fouled at 19.

So, I just don't see the point in looking at 10ths of a second when the whole process is arbitrary from the split second the timekeeper decides to reset the clock.

 

[upstater]

We were told to play until you hear a whistle, none were blown until Smith was fouled. What's the problem here?

If he was fouled after the original play clock had expired, the refs would've wiped away the basket.

 

[upstater]

Malachi would’ve gotten the shot off later, within that 20.

We just dont know what the rule is for that...

 

[NewBlood]

It feels good again to be beating top 15 teams by double digits and leading all game and still nitpicking about it being an "average" game overall.

Exactly

We had two of starters have non effective games, our 5 star barely break in and we were up 20 against a potential Final Four team. It’s good here, enjoy it

 

[Leebo]

Isn't it arbitrary though? I mean, it's arbitrary when the timekeeper hits the reset button after they determine the player came down with the rebound and kept possession.

Refs looked at it, they wouldn't have made the determination he was fouled at 21 if he was fouled at 19.

So, I just don't see the point in looking at 10ths of a second when the whole process is arbitrary from the split second the timekeeper decides to reset the clock.

I'm just sitting here on my phone watch people unable to agree on if it was the right call or not.

Surely there must be some way for everyone to get on the same page, right?

If I could get on my computer and see for myself, I'd form my own opinion, but I won't be able to for like 24 hours.

 

[thekollieman]

Isn't it arbitrary though? I mean, it's arbitrary when the timekeeper hits the reset button after they determine the player came down with the rebound and kept possession.

Refs looked at it, they wouldn't have made the determination he was fouled at 21 if he was fouled at 19.

So, I just don't see the point in looking at 10ths of a second when the whole process is arbitrary from the split second the timekeeper decides to reset the clock.

Agreed. My “evidence” turned out to be me pausing it when Reibe definitely did have possession. I thought this coincided with when the timekeeper reset the clock due to it reading 30, but it actually changed to 30 as soon as the ball hit the rim. Then a second or so after Reibe secured the rebound, the timekeeper reset the clock to 20. That’s an arbitrary judgment, but it was done officially at a time that would’ve allowed Malachi to get the shot off regardless of the erroneous reset that came later. Then the announcer mistakenly called it the original 30, but obviously meant the second 20. I think it’s all tied up with a bow in my mind now, and I appreciate all the good faith discussion on the matter.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Solo carried us offensively early and then went ice cold. AK only had 12 points and still put the ball down and drove which is always a disaster but he played a great game. Malachi was the player of the game. Big Eric was awesome, we had no reason to believe he would be this good this early.

Tarris wasn't even close to healthy, he didn't move well at all and couldn't jump. If he was healthy we would've totally blasted them. This game should've been a blowout but Hurley took Malachi out of the game and he did the stall ball thing again.

It looked like we should've blown them out with Tarris at like 20% (2 pts, 5 rebs) Silas in foul trouble all game, and Braylon not integrated at all yet. It shows just how good we are. We are deep especially at the right places, this is a great team.

The crowd was all UConn.

He was big on defense

 

[upstater]

I'm just sitting here on my phone watch people unable to agree on if it was the right call or not.

Surely there must be some way for everyone to get on the same page, right?

If I could get on my computer and see for myself, I'd form my own opinion, but I won't be able to for like 24 hours.

I think we are now agreed.

It took 5 or 6 posts each to do so.

 

[Edward Sargent]

We have to stop holding the ball forever when we're up 10+ with 10 minutes to go. All of our worst play has come from 10:00-2:00 left in the game. It was fine in 23/24 because those guys had crazy killer instincts and would find a bucket on their own. But that's a huge luxury and not something you can count on reliably.

Actually I thought this team had an answer each time there was an appearance of a run by Illinois

 

[huskiesNhoos]

Love Reed - might be my favorite player on the team. Have you seen any of the background stuff on him? Hurley having to shift him from Teddy Bear to Kodiak? I am not bashing him - I'm simply saying that he's a softie. My god people, take the poles out of your collective butts.

No offense...you might be one of my top 500 favorite BY posters but I think your takes are terrible

 

[Edward Sargent]

I know we play aggressively but we get some of the strangest phantom calls…especially on Ross

Second foul on Demary too

 

[Excalibur]

Love Reed - might be my favorite player on the team. Have you seen any of the background stuff on him? Hurley having to shift him from Teddy Bear to Kodiak? I am not bashing him - I'm simply saying that he's a softie. My god people, take the poles out of your collective butts.

No, you said he isn't a guy that can play through pain, which is an objectively terrible take.

 

[KingAG]

Agreed. My “evidence” turned out to be me pausing it when Reibe definitely did have possession. I thought this coincided with when the timekeeper reset the clock due to it reading 30, but it actually changed to 30 as soon as the ball hit the rim. Then a second or so after Reibe secured the rebound, the timekeeper reset the clock to 20. That’s an arbitrary judgment, but it was done officially at a time that would’ve allowed Malachi to get the shot off regardless of the erroneous reset that came later. Then the announcer mistakenly called it the original 30, but obviously meant the second 20. I think it’s all tied up with a bow in my mind now, and I appreciate all the good faith discussion on the matter.

I’m genuinely happy for you bro lmao. You were committed to getting to a conclusion.

 

[Inyatkin]

Doesn’t really matter what the topic is, “everyone is wrong but me” is never a winning argument

 

[Rocktheworld]

Not just this game - last year he had a tendency to drift if things weren’t going well.

How does that have anything to do with his toughing it out through pain, which he already did this season to make sure we beat BYU? Don’t try to move the goalposts; you sound no less idiotic for your initial post.

And yeah - the koolaid mafia is out.

What is the “koolaid mafia”? Please expound

Say 10 positive things and the defense mafia will zero in on the one non.

Lay out your 10:1 good:bad points.

Hurley said his health was about a week out in post game.

Exactly. And yet, he played through whatever discomfort he was still experiencing to help us win. Are you that dumb that you don’t realize you’re defeating your own stupid point?

 

[Rocktheworld]

We had a big lead. Then we did not. We gave up a big lead. Not THE lead.

Spend more time watching college basketball. These are 18-22 year olds, it’s a game of runs, and Illinois isn’t a bad team. Did you expect another 30-0 run? We’re allowed to take a 20 point lead and it’s unfathomable for them to have a few 8-10 point runs of their own?

Think.

 

[RuffRuff]

Pretty good analysis, emphasizing the importance of AK on the team, as a key QB of their set actions. Which slow down and tire high scoring teams like Illinois, forcing them to chase/defend through picks and actions. One of the secrets of the Hurley system (and what kept us in winning distance to Florida last year).

 

[LetsGoUC]

Best game by Malachi so far in a UConn uniform.

Mullins looks like he will be very good. Just wait to he finds his footing.

 

[uconn_jack]

Eric, with his back to the basket, spun to his right along the baseline and laid in with his left hand. He's going to be quite the player for us.

That was such a pretty move.