Illinois Post Game Thread

[jostar1]

 

[jostar1]

Nice picture of Reed and Reibe.

 

[NJHoops]

We’re certainly a long ways away from when there were legitimate worries about him ever wanting to be part of the program again.

 

[Jaydumo20]

Stew was 1-5 from 3

Im kind of over stats. They are revisionist. You are correct, but his 3 was timely. Also, solos 1st half is why we were up so big. That 1st half was so important it won us the game.

 

[Mike Honcho]

Solo is so good from midrange and at the basket right now

It's been remarkable improvement.

 

[storrsroars]

Im kind of over stats. They are revisionist.

I wish MLB writers understood this because Oneil Cruz was the true NL MVP this year.

/s

 

[MGD15]

Any idea why Mullins didn’t even sit on the bench when he was not in the game was just standing in the back tunnel ?

 

[husky429]

Any idea why Mullins didn’t even sit on the bench when he was not in the game was just standing in the back tunnel ?

Might've been getting his ankle worked on between stints.

 

[JakeTheDog]

Absolutely love the work Coach Hurley has done to maintain continuity between the program’s different eras.

 

[upstater]

Combining your picture and my picture leads me to believe there was something fundamentally wrong with the shot clock reset in general. Reibe had full possession of the offensive rebound and a fresh 30 seconds (which should have been 20) on the shot clock at 2:32 game clock. Some time passed (apparently about 2 seconds) before it changed from reading 30 to 20 and counting.

I also noticed this “30 then suddenly 20 and counting” after other offensive rebounds during the game. I think the clock had a bug… or funny business? Didn’t seem to influence the game - including on the possession in question. Even if it were a turnover and UConn was up by 7 with 2:10 left, I have every confidence they would’ve still won.

I think you're seeing the TV reset. With my naked eyes in real time, I never saw the 30. You caught it instantly. Great job.

But when I watch it, I just see the 20. And it wasn't a bothced reset or anything wrong by the timekeeper. He saw Reibe come down with it, hit the button, and the clock reset at 2:31. This is what I wrote in my first post on the matter. I do not think you'll find a screenshot showing the 20 second time clock at 2:32.

But here's the larger point: This is what happens exactly on every single play. The timekeeper waits for the player to grab possession, and only then does the clock reset. It doesn't reset as soon as the ball touched the player's hands.

Everything that happened was really proper EXCEPT for the reset after the Karaban shot and (POSSIBLY) the refs allowing Malachi counting Malachi's shot (even though I think it left his hand after time expired). But I don't know the rule on that. Seems right that if you're fouled and the ball is in your hand, then continuation should not be a factor -- but again, I don't know the rule on that.

 

[upstater]

Someone just needs to take the clip into a video editor and see how many seconds from "ball in hands after rim contact" to "ball out of the hand on the Smith three".

Any other calculations are not going to reveal anything definitive because of how wonky the TV display can be.

?

We already know that though. The initial 20 second clock appears at 2:31. Malachi fouled at 2:11. Malachi shoots at 2:10.

 

[Chin Diesel]

It feels good again to be beating top 15 teams by double digits and leading all game and still nitpicking about it being an "average" game overall.

 

[CL82]

I’ve been on this BY for almost 27 years
lurking and have been a poster since 2012-13
To break into the top 100 stupidest posts is probably the most difficult thing to accomplish. If you include the conference realignment forum breaking into the top 1000 is elite company..

And really, I don't think anything is bumping the love portion post out of the top spot.

 

[CL82]

Some of it must be due to autocorrect but in this thread I’ve seen:

Reiner
Reibel
Reliebe
Riebe

It’s Reibe. Eric Reibe.

Although Heinrich Reiner sounds like he would be a tough rebounder.

 

[ucp990411]

I am a high school math teacher. Maybe I should pose this question to my students.
Lol

Ask them how many points a team gets for a 3 pt shot

 

[RuffRuff]

A baseball player would know. The greatest and toughest athletes in the world along with golfers.

First you bash Reed for not playing when hurt, then you bash him for not playing well when hurt.

Love Reed - might be my favorite player on the team. Have you seen any of the background stuff on him? Hurley having to shift him from Teddy Bear to Kodiak? I am not bashing him - I'm simply saying that he's a softie. My god people, take the poles out of your collective butts.

 

[ucp990411]

We had a big lead. Then we did not. We gave up a big lead. Not THE lead.

We kept pushing but we missed 14 or our last 16 shots according to my stats.

 

[thekollieman]

I think you're seeing the TV reset. With my naked eyes in real time, I never saw the 30. You caught it instantly. Great job.

But when I watch it, I just see the 20. And it wasn't a bothced reset or anything wrong by the timekeeper. He saw Reibe come down with it, hit the button, and the clock reset at 2:31. This is what I wrote in my first post on the matter. I do not think you'll find a screenshot showing the 20 second time clock at 2:32.

But here's the larger point: This is what happens exactly on every single play. The timekeeper waits for the player to grab possession, and only then does the clock reset. It doesn't reset as soon as the ball touched the player's hands.

Everything that happened was really proper EXCEPT for the reset after the Karaban shot and (POSSIBLY) the refs allowing Malachi counting Malachi's shot (even though I think it left his hand after time expired). But I don't know the rule on that. Seems right that if you're fouled and the ball is in your hand, then continuation should not be a factor -- but again, I don't know the rule on that.

I just turned it back on and realized the shot clock goes to 30 on rim contact and then 20 when an offensive player secures it. That picture I posted a bunch just shows before the clock operator reset it (arguably they reset it late), but now I understand the 30 before 20 thing… that being said, I’m not ruling out a glitch because in the first 30 (initiating the possession) it flashed 30 for a moment between 26 and 25 lol. I don’t know what to say about that but now I’m convinced, based on the clock operator’s determination of when Reibe possessed the rebound, Malachi would’ve gotten the shot off later, within that 20.

 

[RuffRuff]

Any idea why Mullins didn’t even sit on the bench when he was not in the game was just standing in the back tunnel ?

He was riding a bike.

 

[freshler40]

I think you're seeing the TV reset. With my naked eyes in real time, I never saw the 30. You caught it instantly. Great job.

But when I watch it, I just see the 20. And it wasn't a bothced reset or anything wrong by the timekeeper. He saw Reibe come down with it, hit the button, and the clock reset at 2:31. This is what I wrote in my first post on the matter. I do not think you'll find a screenshot showing the 20 second time clock at 2:32.

But here's the larger point: This is what happens exactly on every single play. The timekeeper waits for the player to grab possession, and only then does the clock reset. It doesn't reset as soon as the ball touched the player's hands.

Everything that happened was really proper EXCEPT for the reset after the Karaban shot and (POSSIBLY) the refs allowing Malachi counting Malachi's shot (even though I think it left his hand after time expired). But I don't know the rule on that. Seems right that if you're fouled and the ball is in your hand, then continuation should not be a factor -- but again, I don't know the rule on that.

We were told to play until you hear a whistle, none were blown until Smith was fouled. What's the problem here?

 

[TheHorde]

We were told to play until you hear a whistle, none were blown until Smith was fouled. What's the problem here?

Exactly this. If the refs didn’t see the ball hit the rim, then they should have blown the whistle to stop play when they saw the shot clock reset.

 

[amishboy]

As much as I enjoyed the win, I still tend to focus on triviality, rather than, say, clock violations. So my thought is, even if your team color is orange, it’s still not a good look on coaches. I don’t remember Jim Boeheim, Rick Barnes, Bruce Pearl, Shaka Smart, or any other coach trying to be orange.

 

[Leebo]

?

We already know that though. The initial 20 second clock appears at 2:31. Malachi fouled at 2:11. Malachi shoots at 2:10.

I haven't gone back to look at it myself, but I'm talking about the timeline in an actual video editor, not the whole seconds of the TV display.

If what you're referring to was sufficient to determine it, no one would be disagreeing.

 

[upstater]

I haven't gone back to look at it myself, but I'm talking about the timeline in an actual video editor, not the whole seconds of the TV display.

If what you're referring to was sufficient to determine it, no one would be disagreeing.

Isn't it arbitrary though? I mean, it's arbitrary when the timekeeper hits the reset button after they determine the player came down with the rebound and kept possession.

Refs looked at it, they wouldn't have made the determination he was fouled at 21 if he was fouled at 19.

So, I just don't see the point in looking at 10ths of a second when the whole process is arbitrary from the split second the timekeeper decides to reset the clock.

 

[upstater]

We were told to play until you hear a whistle, none were blown until Smith was fouled. What's the problem here?

If he was fouled after the original play clock had expired, the refs would've wiped away the basket.