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Illinois Post Game Thread

Her probably plug in his organ and play me a song.

a man stands in front of a sign that says comedy on it
 
Got nothing from our best player and still won by double digits. Smith gets the game ball. Reibe honorable mention. Glad to see Solo getting his groove back in the first half. Mullins’ stroke is pretty.
Who is our best player? Illinois got 25 from their best player and lost
 
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And when we play at Georgetown while it would be nice to play against Abraham it should be deemed: Mr. Smith goes to Washington.
 
Some fun stats:

Time tied: 0:13 (when the score was 0-0)
Time UConn led: 39:47
Time Illinois led: 0:00

H1: UConn +11
H2: UConn +2
Final: UConn +13 (spread was UConn 4.5)

It’s okay if Illinois is +7 in the last 10 minutes if UConn is +21 in the first 30. Running the clock continues to raise our heart rates and gray our hairs, but we remain undefeated using that strategy in the last 3ish years

It’s okay to win and be happy about it!
 
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The 20 second shot clock started at 2:30, the shot by Malachi came at 2:11. The referee called it right. I replayed it several times.
I attached the same picture several other times but here it is again, contradicting what you said. The shot clock at the bottom of the screen flashed 30 before counting down from 20 (it was doing this throughout the game for god knows what reason), but there it is reset at 2:32 on the game clock.
 

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If you watched the replay, you would see the shot clock reset at 2:30 and Malachi's shot came at 2:11. Therefore, the call was correct.
See my other reply to you with evidence that it was reset at 2:32 on the game clock.
 
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But again, when you say it's 2:32, that was the time the ball clanged off the rim. The actual time that Reibe gained possession and the 20 second clock started was a second or two later.
The clock was reset in the picture I posted with 2:32 on the game clock. It flashed 30 before counting down from 20 throughout the game (another weird glitch in the whole situation, of course), but it’s clearly reset at 2:32 game time.
 

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Why don’t you? It didn’t cost Illinois the game and it’s great that it worked out in our favor but it wasn’t right. You know as well as I do that if the roles were reversed the Boneyard would be rioting. It just wasn’t right.
My take is if the shot clock shows 18 seconds, that is what the players on the floor are going to rely on. It would hardly be fair to UConn to show that they have 18 seconds left and then call them for a shot clock violation
 
This is wrong. Show me a 20 playclock with 2:32 on the screen. I can show you a 2:29 screenshot with 19 seconds.

I took a shot of my screen with my camera.

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Interesting… so the rabbit hole goes deeper. Love the picture. How do we go from 30 (when it should have been 20) on the clock at 2:32 to 19 at 2:29? If you measure it from this moment in time then it never would have been a shot clock violation at all, but they still did initially reset the shot clock upon Reibe’s possession of the rebound at 2:32.
 
I don’t know why so much obsession about that call. The refs made a lot of mistakes and bad calls today. It was an awful crew and in my opinion the mistakes mostly benefited Illinois.

Also the clocks on TV aren’t always the real
clocks.
Good point about the TV clocks. I can only speak for myself, but I’m perseverating on it just because it was never explained to a degree that actually settled it. Your point about the TV clocks might just be that explanation, because the broadcast shot clock was screwed up throughout the game (showing 30 for some consequential amount of time before suddenly starting a countdown from 20 after any given offensive rebounds - I don’t know how many times this happened, but it caught my eye at least twice outside of the possession we’re all talking about).
 
My take is if the shot clock shows 18 seconds, that is what the players on the floor are going to rely on. It would hardly be fair to UConn to show that they have 18 seconds left and then call them for a shot clock violation
I completely agree with that.
 
Someone just needs to take the clip into a video editor and see how many seconds from "ball in hands after rim contact" to "ball out of the hand on the Smith three".

Any other calculations are not going to reveal anything definitive because of how wonky the TV display can be.
 
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No... that wasn't the explanation given.

This screenshot also doesn't capture the reset of the clock which did not happen at 2:32.

It happened at 2:31 or 2:30.

This makes all the difference.

Look at this screenshot: 2:29 on the clock. 19 seconds on the play clock. If the guy hadn't reset the clock after Karaban's miss, the play clock would have expired at either 2:11 or 2:10. Malachi was fouled before 2:11 (the whistle came at that time) but he let the ball go at 2:10.

[For some reason my screenshot off of youtube tv is just blacked out, but trust me the clock reset properly, and at 2:29, the play clock was at 19 seconds.]

How could the refs make any other ruling?
Combining your picture and my picture leads me to believe there was something fundamentally wrong with the shot clock reset in general. Reibe had full possession of the offensive rebound and a fresh 30 seconds (which should have been 20) on the shot clock at 2:32 game clock. Some time passed (apparently about 2 seconds) before it changed from reading 30 to 20 and counting.

I also noticed this “30 then suddenly 20 and counting” after other offensive rebounds during the game. I think the clock had a bug… or funny business? Didn’t seem to influence the game - including on the possession in question. Even if it were a turnover and UConn was up by 7 with 2:10 left, I have every confidence they would’ve still won.
 

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