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AgStatesman said:
UConn has more injuries then other teams, period. When do we start to question the training methods and preventive steps being taken?
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If you're going to question Huddy's training methods you must analyze her work over the years in all of the places she was employed. You can't just look at her years at UCONN because there can be so many factors which contribute to injuries as many have stated. You have to look at the injury experience throughout her career.

Huddy is not just someone who hung out a shingle and wandered in to Storrs off of the street. I suspect (but of course only have her credentials and experience to judge) that there is no substantive correlation between her training methods and the injuries that have occurred on her watch.
 
Injuries come in cycles and there are too many factors that go into the equation…there does not need to be a blame game or second guessing….
Believe in the system and that Geno and CD and staff will figure it….I still think we can win a championship this season….Go Huskies!!!
 
I get the disappointment. I get the wondering about...how did this happen. I do. Imagine how the team feels...the healthy and the injured. Everyone just get it out of your system and then get back in the dogfight supporting these ladies. They need it more than we do. Time to set some attendance records and to be the best 6th man in women's college basketball history. Huddle up...we got work to do.
 
UConn is fortunate to have enough depth to handle the consequences of her injury.
Folks have rightly or wrongly blamed Paige's injuries on her slight build which it's the opposite for Ice.
Ice played extensive minutes for USA BB and is known as a gym rat.
If anything it's the players who push themselves too hard.
That's partly how they got to become UConn Huskies in the first place.
There's a sliver lining here somewhere, we just need to look for it.
Ice will be able to redshirt and perhaps play the 4th year when UConn will really need her the most.
Hopefully she'll become stronger & an even bigger & brighter UConn star because of this setback.
No pain no gain.
 
HuskyNan said:
Really? Ask the football board. There are 12 players out with injuries, almost all sustained in non-game situations.
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It's disingenuous to say look at FB with 12 injuries in a contact sport among 85 scholarship players (14%) versus 6 injuries on the WBB roster of 12 (50%).

Almost all sustained in non-game situations? No. At least all the following (eight) were injured in games:
Carter;
Houston;
Brewton;
Jones:
Marion;
Roberson;
Anthony and
McCarthy.

Ross (second broken foot in two years which could indicate a bone loss issue) and McFadden (caught foot in turf when kicking) were preseason, and Fitzgerald and Brinson were practice injuries.

WBB injuries:
Bueckers (two different injuries);
Fudd;
Ducharme;
Juhasz;
Griffin and
Brady

Half the 12 player roster suffering serious injuries, resulting in a significant number of games in which they could not play, in less than a year, is concerning and should be evaluated to see if there's an area that needs to be addressed.

Issues mentioned by others, such as over training and the year round focus on one sport, could be the problems but we won't know if we don't review it.
 
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UConnCat said:
The press release said surgery "to repair damage suffered during the dislocation." Some ligament damage as well? Not sure.
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The key seems to be to avoid rupturing the patella tendon. That's the one that is most difficult to get back to normal from.

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Scud49 said:
Just crushing news so close to the start of the season, wishing her a full and speedy recovery. I was really looking forward to seeing her play.

Amari, I think we're going to need you more than ever now.....you can do it.
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Yes, Amari and the whole rest of the UCONN WBB family. I love the quote from ICE.
Best Wishes to ICE, looking forward to you full return next Fall!
 
Scrutiner said:
WBB injuries:
Bueckers (two different injuries);
Fudd;
Ducharme;
Juhasz;
Griffin and
Brady

Half the 12 player roster suffering serious injuries, resulting in a significant number of games in which they could not play, in less than a year, is concerning and should be evaluated to see if there's an area that needs to be addressed.

Issues mentioned by others, such as over training and the year round focus on one sport, could be the problems but we won't know if we don't review it.
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You do know that Azzi Fudd's foot condition existed before her arrival at UConn, right? What was the serious injury she suffered?

You do know that Caroline Ducharme's hip condition existed before her arrival at UConn, right? What was the serious injury she suffered? She missed a few games last season due to a concussion but no games due to the hip issue that required surgery during the off-season.

You do know that Dorka was hit going up for a shot during a game and landed on her wrist which was then fractured, right? How would training prevent that?
 
Geew1992 said:
Ask Shea Ralph
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I asked her. Right now she's dealing with two starters out for the season with torn achilles and another starter out for the season with an ACL tear. As soon as she figures out how to field a competitive team with the remaining nine players on the roster, she'll get back to you about UConn's injury problems...lol

Seriously, I hate this for Ice, but UConn will still be a power. Vandy, not so much.
 
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Iluvacc2 said:
This is horrible. Wishing her a speedy recovery. I was very much looking forward to her progress this year after an impressive summer with USA basketball.

Assuming that Dorka and Aaliyah are starters, does that mean Amari will be the backup center? (I consider Ayanna a forward). Albeit a very talented forward, but a little undersized for the center position.
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Clearly backup C is now a question mark. Before this injury the top candidates were Amari and Ice, and there might have been more that thought Ice was the better bet. Now it is Amari's to lose, but there are other alternatives, it's just that they are all PF's. PF was our deepest position and even after this injury, we have three above average players that can play there in Aaliyah, Ayanna and Aubrey.

Aaliyah might have to play some C, with Ayanna or Aubrey at the PF spot during that stretch. That is not ideal with Aaliyah having to play a significant part of her minutes out of position, but you are still putting quality players on the floor. Amari could make all that a mute point if she shows she can handle the backup role. Ayanna might be able to play C, but with an extra inch and more bulk to bang I would think Aaliyah would be a better choice.

Aubrey might have been considered the 5th small option previously because of our lack of depth there, and being loaded at PF. Now I think she will get some minutes consistently at the 3 and the 4.
 
For one thing, women have more ACL injuries than men as I understand it. If you are a woman soccer player you can almost assume you will have an ACL at least once in a professional career. So a lot of us men just don't get the frequency of acls. My personal suspicion these injuries are happening from all the diving for loose balls. Top teams want that level of hustle right? They expect and demand it. Paige bought into that as was great as a result but look what it cost her. A player like Paige might well have her career truncated from that approach but it's a big part of what makes her great.

My heart goes out to Ice, who had the whole world opening up for her this year and now will have to work hard to get that opportunity back. We all hate seeing it happen. Imagine if it were our daughter going through that. It's one of the great obstacles of life but we all have them right? Ice had hers early and before she even had a chance to display her ability this year. Now she needs to realize it's part of the game and when she works hard to come back it will be even more meaningful to her when she returns. So sad for her and wishing her strength and resilience!
 
ed4ourgirls said:
But don't you see?

Shea obviously adopted Hudy's training and conditioning methods.
That's why there have been such a rash of devastating injuries at Vandy.

There is a clear causality.

:rolleyes:
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We all may have somewhat different definitions of " Causality". I
choose to suspend judgment. Because I don't know why this, or
many other life events occur.
 
TeamFirst! said:
For one thing, women have more ACL injuries than men as I understand it. If you are a woman soccer player you can almost assume you will have an ACL at least once in a professional career. So a lot of us men just don't get the frequency of acls. My personal suspicion these injuries are happening from all the diving for loose balls.
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How do you get that? Diving for balls and ACL injuries? I'd like to hear your thought process on this.
 
Zarathustra said:
We all may have somewhat different definitions of " Causality". I
choose to suspend judgment. Because I don't know why this, or
many other life events occur.
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Well all these events that we've been discussing on this board (injuries, not winning NCs, recruiting misses, etc.), have to do with the Basketball gods. Our inability to appease them. Or in many situations we agitate them.
 
meyers7 said:
Well all these events that we've been discussing on this board (injuries, not winning NCs, recruiting misses, etc.), have to do with the Basketball gods. Our inability to appease them. Or in many situations we agitate them.
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The Basketball gods gave us 9 national championships in 15 years, including 3 in a row, 2 in a row, and 4 in a row. Payback time I guess.
 
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TeamFirst! said:
For one thing, women have more ACL injuries than men as I understand it. If you are a woman soccer player you can almost assume you will have an ACL at least once in a professional career. So a lot of us men just don't get the frequency of acls. My personal suspicion these injuries are happening from all the diving for loose balls. Top teams want that level of hustle right? They expect and demand it. Paige bought into that as was great as a result but look what it cost her. A player like Paige might well have her career truncated from that approach but it's a big part of what makes her great.

My heart goes out to Ice, who had the whole world opening up for her this year and now will have to work hard to get that opportunity back. We all hate seeing it happen. Imagine if it were our daughter going through that. It's one of the great obstacles of life but we all have them right? Ice had hers early and before she even had a chance to display her ability this year. Now she needs to realize it's part of the game and when she works hard to come back it will be even more meaningful to her when she returns. So sad for her and wishing her strength and resilience!
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1. Brady's injury is not an ACL tear. How did you not know that?
2. Neither of Bueckers' injuries had anything to do with diving on the floor. Where did you come up with this?

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I just GOOGLED Patellar Dislocation = It is worth the exercise to do this.
The first search item was " 10 causes, signs, and treatment of Patellar
Dislocation" from FACTY HEALTH. Read all ten. Some facts include:
It occurs most frequently in teenagers, Boys = Girls. It has a 24 %
genetic predisposition ( near relatives have a greater chance of it happening
to them ). Surgery is usually not indicated ( except when there is bone
or ligament damage ). It tends to occur with athletes who engage in
sports with stress the knee, they gave the example of gymnastics. It has
a good prognosis... but can reoccur. One treatment was to "Strenghen
the muscles" surround the knee cap to provide more support to the knee
area. It was very interesting and said alot more.... so check it out
and do some additional reseach if you are so inclined. GOOD LUCK
for a full and safe recovery to ICE. Z
 
I still think we could be dangerous this season, assuming no major injury to one of our 4 main guards, but the injuries to Paige and Ice create a scenario where however we finish, probably no team will have the quality of additions next year than Uconn will have. We have a recruiting class that will be among the best with KK, Ashlynn and Q, plus Paige and Ice added to the mix, while waiting to hear if El Alfy could lift our recruiting class to the best.

If we get her that would be 6 major additions, all of which were very high recruits except for Q who was still pretty high. We lose Dorka and Lou, maybe Aubrey, but there will be no more Boston at SC or Jones at Stanford among others, so on paper I think we should be the top ranked team heading into next year if we are anywhere near the top this year.
 
UConnCat said:
Most definitely some bad luck for the UConn football team and for the UConn women. Let's look at the WBB team:

Paige: torn acl. Unfortunately, this happens too often in women's basketball. Before Paige who was the last UConnWBB player to tear her acl? I can't even remember.

Azzi: foot injury that existed before her arrival at UConn. Azzi tore her acl while in high school.

Ducharme: hip injury which existed before her arrival at UConn

Dorka: fell awkwardly and landed on her wrist. Could proper training prevent that from happening?

Aubrey: back disc surgery. Does anyone know enough about Aubrey's anatomy to say that could have been prevented? I know people who've had back surgery and didn't even play sports.

Ice: dislocated patella. Last WBB player I recall this happening to was Chelsea Gray at Duke. She then fractured the same patella the following season. Several NBA players have had this injury over the years. Happened to NFL Quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

Who else am I missing? Christyn tore her acl during training camp with the Mystics. Are we to blame that on UConn's training too?

UConnWBB had a really good stretch of being injury free while other teams had the injury bug.
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UConnCat said:
UConnWBB had a really good stretch of being injury free while other teams had the injury bug.
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This is so very, very true. I've been amazed over the years I've watched the team closely how lucky they've been up until the last couple of years. So much so that I'd been afraid to comment lest I jinx things. Well, I guess the injury bug has hit us...hopefully things will return to a more "normal" situation soon. And there's hardly a kid left on the floor who hasn't been hurt, had surgery, etc. Gonna be a challenging year for sure.
 
UConnCat said:
UCLA.

In 2018, Notre Dame won the national championship despite losing 4 players to ACL injuries. Four acl tears: Brianna Turner, Mychael Johnson, Mikayla Vaughn and Lili Thompson. Did ND fire their S&C coach?
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No, ND didn't fire the trainer.

BTW, the injury to Lili Thompson occurred in the 2nd half of the UConn-Notre Dame regular-season game (unfortunately, there seems to be a history of that happening in these games.)

After Thompson went down, ND finished the season with 7 scholarship players and three walk-ons, one of whom -- Kaitln Cole -- was the only substitute guard. (Strangely, one of the scholarship subs, Danielle Paterson, is still playing ... at St. John's.)

Now, those five starters are all playing professional ball (four in the WNBA) so there was a lot of talent. However, UConn has a lot of talent and a great coaching staff to utilize it. Good luck to the coaching staff and remaining players going forward.

And best of luck to Ice Brady on her recuperation. I look forward to seeing her play. And it never hurts to restate that for Paige.
 
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meyers7 said:
Coincidence? Causation? Call it whatever you want. But all I'm saying is Rosemary Ragle left UCONN in 2016. Since she left we have not won a NC and the injuries seem to have been piling up.

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Rosemary was the trainer not the strength and conditioning coach but she sure was a good one. Fire Janelle Francisco.
 
after watching some of the players lifting weights i noticed some were going lower than a 45 degree angle with their legs. THAT is bad for the knees. Im a bit surprised that hasnt been an issue that was brought up to the trainer or strength coach.
 
Blond D. said:
after watching some of the players lifting weights i noticed some were going lower than a 45 degree angle with their legs. THAT is bad for the knees. Im a bit surprised that hasnt been an issue that was brought up to the trainer or strength coach.
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Andrea Hudy's email is available online.

I bet she'll answer. She seems to be that type of person.
 
Conndog said:
Any info on how this happened- I mean, was it a collision between two players? Did it just give out when running? I don’t have a pressing need to know but am curious
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I have absolutely no information about how this injury came about, but my suspicion is that somehow Nika was involved.:rolleyes:
 
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