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Hurley: UConn between going young or still competing

Clearly a message to Jalen. It wouldn’t shock me that he’s had a sit down with him prior to this quote to the media.

It’s not just the season we are talking here. It’s Jalen’s future. Hurley mentioned before the season started that Adams had it in him to be a great player. We have not seen it.

It’s on Jalen and Jalen only to save the season; and his future as a basketball player.
 
superjohn said:
I haven't seen him be the best player on the floor in any of our games against the non cupcakes.
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You're being too hard on the guy...who on the team was better on Wednesday? Jalen certainly hasn't lived up to expectations this year but until the 4 minute mark of the 2nd half, he was the only guy outside of Vital who showed anything. We would've lost by 20 if he didn't play; you can't say that about anyone else on the team.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
I think we have a different definition of the word “disaster”. Take him out of the rotation, then you’ll see what a disaster is, I can assure you that.
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I think of Jalen a lot like Tony Robertson. A really good player, but never going to be "the" guy.
 
jimva said:
I think of Jalen a lot like Tony Robertson. A really good player, but never going to be "the" guy.
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I remember watching Tony play Jason (Jay) Williams in high school, and wishing we could get Jason. But he was enamored of Duke. Tony was a decent recruit but he never developed the skills he needed to become a great player even at the college level.

Jalen has different weaknesses but the same problem, he didn't develop a well rounded game by broadening his skill set / developing new skills.
 
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pj said:
I remember watching Tony play Jason (Jay) Williams in high school, and wishing we could get Jason. But he was enamored of Duke. Tony was a decent recruit but he never developed the skills he needed to become a great player even at the college level.

Jalen is a different problem but same problem, he didn't develop a well rounded game by broadening his skill set / developing new skills.
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I’m guessing Jalen has the same problem that Tony had...
 
Someone is going to have to sell me on Sid. I've seen zero from him offensively and a couple of nice blocks but no rebounding on the defensive end. He is also apparently, allergic to the weight room..
 
Skiblets said:
Someone is going to have to sell me on Sid. I've seen zero from him offensively and a couple of nice blocks but no rebounding on the defensive end. He is also apparently, allergic to the weight room..
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The kid is a 19 year old athletic freak. The weight will come if you're really that worried about it. He has potential to show big jump for next season after more game action/practices under Hurley.
 
Friendship said:
The kid is a 19 year old athletic freak. The weight will come if you're really that worried about it. He has potential to show big jump for next season after more game action/practices under Hurley.
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KW is also an athletic freak which doesn't translate to game situation. Again, I'm taking a wait and see with him...not sold yet.
huskymedic said:
Nothing to do w/ record. If he’s talking about sitting people and playing for the future he’s headed that way.
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I love these comments. Playing existing players was Pal's rationale to throw Edsall under the bus (again) by pointing out Hurley was playing with the players Ollie recruited. Now that Hurley is confirming the benefit of Edsall's strategy, Pal is backtracking. Pure gold right there!
 
Rico444 said:
You're being too hard on the guy...who on the team was better on Wednesday? Jalen certainly hasn't lived up to expectations this year but until the 4 minute mark of the 2nd half, he was the only guy outside of Vital who showed anything. We would've lost by 20 if he didn't play; you can't say that about anyone else on the team.
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He hasn't been the best player on the floor in any non cupcake game, that's just the reality.
 
Skiblets said:
KW is also an athletic freak which doesn't translate to game situation. Again, I'm taking a wait and see with him...not sold yet.

I love these comments. Playing existing players was Pal's rationale to throw Edsall under the bus (again) by pointing out Hurley was playing with the players Ollie recruited. Now that Hurley is confirming the benefit of Edsall's strategy, Pal is backtracking. Pure gold right there!
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Sid Wilson is a 4 star recruit who has been away from the game for a while. Kwintin is a kid who was given a scholarship off of a youtube video. Sid has shown flashes of what he can do but is a 19 year old trying to figure things out after being away from the game. Kwintin is a 24 year old who likes to make instagram dunk videos but really has no business being near a D1 program.
 
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superjohn said:
Sid Wilson is a 4 star recruit who has been away from the game for a while. Kwintin is a kid who was given a scholarship off of a youtube video. Sid has shown flashes of what he can do but is a 19 year old trying to figure things out after being away from the game. Kwintin is a 24 year old who likes to make instagram dunk videos but really has no business being near a D1 program.
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I don’t buy “away from the game” as much as others. He was practicing as a rs. He didn’t tear an acl or gave Gilbert’s shoulder.

He’s a guy who is a wing type version of how people are talking about wahab in his thread.
 
Ewekon said:
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Even better than who or what? Majok?
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Better dbpm than last year. A lot better. He’s been better on both ends.

And with win shares he’s already been as valuable as he was last year.

Yes he is limited. But he’s essentially a better Okwandu with potential to get into the orbit of an oriahki type. But that’s his ultimate upside level.
 
the Q said:
Better dbpm than last year. A lot better. He’s been better on both ends.

And with win shares he’s already been as valuable as he was last year.

Yes he is limited. But he’s essentially a better Okwandu with potential to get into the orbit of an oriahki type. But that’s his ultimate upside level.
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Carlton? You're talking about Josh Carlton?
 
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I don’t think he actually means it. He just needed to find a creative way to tell Jalen that he kinda sucks lol
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
I think we have a different definition of the word “disaster”. Take him out of the rotation, then you’ll see what a disaster is, I can assure you that.
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We’re already going young.

We took the ball out of Jalen’s hands and put it in Gilbert’s.

People can complain all they want about Jalen not playing well. He’s playing out of position, and he doesn’t know how to play out of position. You can’t suddenly expect him to be great at moving without the ball, when he never was.

And it’s bull. You beg the kid to stay, and then this..should have told him to go to a place where he could be successful if this is what you were going to do.
 
blackbird said:
We’re already going young.

We took the ball out of Jalen’s hands and put it in Gilbert’s.

People can complain all they want about Jalen not playing well. He’s playing out of position, and he doesn’t know how to play out of position. You can’t suddenly expect him to be great at moving without the ball, when he never was.

And it’s bull. You beg the kid to stay, and then this..should have told him to go to a place where he could be successful if this is what you were going to do.
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I love this narrative that we begged Jalen to stay. His only other option would have been to forego his degree to go play in Europe or worse. Maybe he could have transferred, but he’s old for his grade so that wouldn’t have made sense for him either. He wasn’t going anywhere.
 
Friendship said:
Comparing Sid and KW is a bit of a stretch
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The only comparison I made was to the 'athletic freak' comment about Sid - my point being that one can be an athletic freak but not ready for D1 basketball. Sid's line today just reaffirming my point. Not sold on him at all despite his recruiting rankings and his supposed athleticism
 
Robertelamin said:
I’m guessing Jalen has the same problem that Tony had...
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For both it is 100% mental. Some people have been blessed with mountains of talent but just don't have the personality to be "the" guy. Nothing negative about them, it's just who they are.
 
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superjohn said:
Some people probably won't like this but it's one of the things I love about Hurley, he's extremely candid and won't give you the politicians response.

He knows there is no getting through to Jalen and the frontcourt is a disaster. It's unfrotunate that outside of playing Alterique and Sid all of the minutes and giving Brendan Adams a much bigger roll there isn't all that much he can do for the future. I guess play Josh the whole game but we all know how that'll go.
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This... Hurley realizes JA is not fixable and won’t step up. Too bad for both, really. He could have been a key in really turning the program, leaving a legacy, helping elevate the other players on the floor. Instead, JA likely leaves UConn as a non-storied player with no real NBA potential, absent a miracle transformation. Sad.
 
Rico444 said:
Who was better than him against USF?

Saying he's been a disaster is complete hyperbole.
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It's relative. If BE had his stats, it would be beyond awesome. For US it is a big disappointment. Keep in mind turnovers and assists are stats too.
 
Rico444 said:
Who was better than him against USF?

Saying he's been a disaster is complete hyperbole.
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I said I haven't seen him be the best player on the floor in any of our games against non cupcakes. You can make the argument he was "our" best player on the floor in that game (Vital played better IMO) but his stat line is deceiving, he didn't play winning basketball and hasn't all season.
 
Rico444 said:
Who was better than him against USF?

Saying he's been a disaster is complete hyperbole.
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Sorry Rico but he had a very good 15 minutes to begin then he was a huge part of the demise for this team vs. USF with his lack of control and possession concern. He is supposed to be the or a leader and he's doesn't even flash the glimpse of one on either end with any consistency whatsoever. Not even saying anyone was "better" but when they lose to a team they should beat who really cares who played best? What you hope for is your senior leading scorer and leader to make the plays or help others do so to help win games, he hasn't come close to that vs a good team this year.
 
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superjohn said:
I said I haven't seen him be the best player on the floor in any of our games against non cupcakes. You can make the argument he was "our" best player on the floor in that game (Vital played better IMO) but his stat line is deceiving, he didn't play winning basketball and hasn't all season.
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The whole team has sucked all year, singling out Jalen as being a disaster as you have is really odd.
 
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