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Hurley: UConn between going young or still competing

Hopefully its a motivational tactic for JA and co. I mean, there aren't enough 'young guys' to give minutes to.
 
the Q said:
Carlton has gotten even better defensively.
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Last game, 8 feet from the hoop, he was pump faked into a foul by a 5'9" guy and he was the secondary defender. He might be better at running at guards 25 feet from the hoop but his post defense is no better.
 
UConnStats said:
Sid could be better than Polley by the end of the year if he adjusts. Right now, the speed on the game is definitely a bit much for him, and he’s clearly nervous judging by the missed layups/dunks. It makes sense to keep playing Wilson.

I don’t think much can be done about the center situation. Carlton already plays more than Cobb, and we lost Yakwe. We really are stuck at that spot. Whaley has a low floor and ceiling. He’s a foul trouble big only IMO.

I think the biggest potential change could be BA’s minutes. If he could prove himself more, we could use his size (relative to the other guards) at the 3 this year. Wouldn’t mind him playing more at Smith’s expense if the game flow permits. It would really make sense if he could shoot 36%+ from 3 in conference play.
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I actually agree with most of your post, except the game being too fast for Sid is 100% wrong. If anything, the game is still a bit too fast for Polley and you could make the same case for B. Adams. To me, when you see guys going up and blocking what everyone thinks is a wide open dunk (which Sid has now done at least a handful of times where he's flown out of nowhere for a block), that isn't someone who isn't adjusting to the speed of the game. Sid right now lacks basketball IQ and doesn't understand where he needs to be on the court. I think he's probably had a bit of a struggle adjusting to Hurley's system when last year he was in the KO "stand around and watch 1 guy dribble" offensive scheme during practices...just my 2 cents.
 
kansashusky said:
The ceiling of Sid and BA is much higher than Whaley and Carlton, and they can grow from valuable minutes. Whaley and Carlton don't have a high ceiling, and playing them more will just result in us losing, and not gaining anything.

Polley, if he is hitting shots, has a decent ceiling, but he is so limited physically, both defending and rebounding, that more playing time wont't equal his entire development.
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But Whaley hasn't been playing at all.

And Sid can't replace Carlton where our biggest weakness is, C.
 
I'd also like to see B. Adams out there taking some of Smith's minutes. Smith definitely has his moments where he can score at will, but then he disappears for very long stretches. I'd rather start to develop Adams and he seems to be a better 3 point shooter. All that being said, I don't think Polley is going to have many more games where he gets 7 wide open 3 pointers and misses them all. He was definitely not himself the other night. I know the BY wants to kill this team for lack of effort, but the effort was there. You can't miss 5-10 open layups and 10 or more wide open 3 pointers and expect to win on the road. We got the shots we wanted they just didn't fall. This was not anything like the Nova game where we just got completely manhandled.
 
As to Hurley's quote I think we'll see an uptick in some guys minutes and vice versa but not wholesale changes. Take Whaley, he's stuck to the bench while Hurley is trying to win and now he's going to play 20 minutes a game? Not happening. BAdams and Sid will see increased minutes. Carlton will stay in games even when he's stinking it up. Whaley I guess will play a little more. I hope AG becomes the full time PG from here on out and have JA off the ball. As for Diarra he's 50/50 to play a game this year. I'm not counting on him.
 
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MDHuskFan said:
Agree & disagree. While our current roster construction has us playing guys like Sid & BA @ the 4 & 3 respectively. The future of the team prob has Sid more 3 w/ some PT @ the 4 & BA @ 2-3.
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These kids are very young but... Sid needs a lot of development. As for BA, I just haven't seen anything from him yet.
 
3rdbass said:
I would definitely not call him a disaster. Definitely a regression from last season but he is still the best player on the floor who can create his own offense. He is the difference to losing by 10 instead of 30 like last year. The difference between this year and last year is we have 2 extra guards to help out and mitigate some of the damage. Unfortunately our front line is just as bad as last year if not worst with Carlton's regression.
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His spin move to the two hand dunk was the greatest false advertisement since ajou. I thought Hurley was the big whisperer.
 
upstater said:
But Whaley hasn't been playing at all.

And Sid can't replace Carlton where our biggest weakness is, C.
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Exactly, that's why the comment of going young doesn't make sense to me.
 
QDOG5 said:
As to Hurley's quote I think we'll see an uptick in some guys minutes and vice versa but not wholesale changes. Take Whaley, he's stuck to the bench while Hurley is trying to win and now he's going to play 20 minutes a game? Not happening. BAdams and Sid will see increased minutes. Carlton will stay in games even when he's stinking it up. Whaley I guess will play a little more. I hope AG becomes the full time PG from here on out and have JA off the ball. As for Diarra he's 50/50 to play a game this year. I'm not counting on him.
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I hope ag never plays more than he should because that familiar black cloud seems to be headed this way. Hope not. Has Hurley finalized his contract??? To add to gloom and doom. NC State getting involved with kofi is not good. They are ranked with a charismatic newer coach and a lot of tradition here in Raleigh. As of right now. We are trending into the NC state zone if you think about it. They have poached quite a few targets of ours as well, over the years,which surprises me that this board isn’t too concerned about their interest.
 
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the Q said:
Carlton has gotten even better defensively.

But yes he still gets in too much foul trouble to be a difference maker.
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I think he is worst offensively and how can you say he has gotten better defensively when he can’t stay on the floor without fouling.
 
superjohn said:
I haven't seen him be the best player on the floor in any of our games against the non cupcakes.
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Houston last year he surely was and pretty good against Syracuse this year. Problem with Jalen is he hasn’t gotten better with his left hand, outside shooting and body. Makes you wonder what he was actually working on in the offseason. He is still our best player in breaking down opponents.
 
As Chief said months ago and was criticized - the number 1 priority this season is recruiting. While maybe a little disappointed, Dan’s talent assessment of the current team has not changed much. I think he expected more from Jalen due to hoping he changed certain things.
 
I’ll say it again. Not to pile on the poor guy but.... I never liked Carlton. No explosion, soft body, no hops, no heart, minimal b-ball iq, can play d. Below avg hands, all he has is a bit of soft finesse around the rim. That’s it. I don’t understand why we can never get just like a pure shooter like a GIffey(kinda) Brian Fair or a Rashad Anderson type. hell - I’ll take 1/3 of those guys talent. it seems like every team has one but us - why can’t we just go out to Iowa or Indiana and pluck some farmboy from the cornfields who Can’t play a lick of d but can hit an open shot coming off bench. Also , I find it hard to believe that Ollie could not recruit one Dirt dog nasty SOB down low- I don’t get it - how come everyone else has these players but us? it’s mystifying to me. The player doesn’t have to be super talented - just have a nose for the ball - kind like a bigger of a vital type down low thats scrappy - we can’t find one player in the country like that? come on!
 
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yukonfan4 said:
new and improved(?) lineup:

gilbert
vital---b.adams
wilson-whaley
polley-diarra
carlton

trial by fire
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Not start JA? He won’t like that bc it’ll kill his draft stock
 
QDOG5 said:
As to Hurley's quote I think we'll see an uptick in some guys minutes and vice versa but not wholesale changes. Take Whaley, he's stuck to the bench while Hurley is trying to win and now he's going to play 20 minutes a game? Not happening. BAdams and Sid will see increased minutes. Carlton will stay in games even when he's stinking it up. Whaley I guess will play a little more. I hope AG becomes the full time PG from here on out and have JA off the ball. As for Diarra he's 50/50 to play a game this year. I'm not counting on him.
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Diarra is 50/50 whether he will play competitive basketball again. Reoccurring knee ligament issues is as bad as it gets.
 
Help me out.
How could Cobb play fewer minutes?
 
It's 1 game into conference play. 1 game.

As for playing for the future, we have 1 freshman (B Adams) on the team and 1 red shirt freshman (Wilson) on the team. It's not like we have a 5 man freshman class that's going to be playing together for 4 years.

If Hurley wants to give Jalen a message he can tell him to his face, lmao at the idea that it's "going through the media" as if Jalen is sitting there with his morning coffee paging through the Hartford Courant and now will see this and get the message.

There is a lot of hoops left and the 2011 Big East, the 2019 AAC is not.

Keep improving and don't even let the thought of throwing in the towel get in these kids heads.
 
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Many do not want to admit seeing what they have seen so far this year, and still have stars in their eyes thinking Sweet Sixteen. It’s a fall back should it get ugly.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
It's 1 game into conference play. 1 game.

As for playing for the future, we have 1 freshman (B Adams) on the team and 1 red shirt freshman (Wilson) on the team. It's not like we have a 5 man freshman class that's going to be playing together for 4 years.

If Hurley wants to give Jalen a message he can tell him to his face, lmao at the idea that it's "going through the media" as if Jalen is sitting there with his morning coffee paging through the Hartford Courant and now will see this and get the message.

There is a lot of hoops left and the 2011 Big East, the 2019 AAC is not.

Keep improving and don't even let the thought of throwing in the towel get in these kids heads.
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naaaaaaaaaaaiiiillllllllllllldddd it! (opeepo musta been served some runny jello or sumptin. can't otherwise understand why folks so ornery on this board, attacking each other, and our dawg future too, all the time over nuthin…..)
 
JB75 said:
I’ll say it again. Not to pile on the poor guy but.... I never liked Carlton. No explosion, soft body, no hops, no heart, minimal b-ball iq, can play d. Below avg hands, all he has is a bit of soft finesse around the rim. That’s it. I don’t understand why we can never get just like a pure shooter like a GIffey(kinda) Brian Fair or a Rashad Anderson type. hell - I’ll take 1/3 of those guys talent. it seems like every team has one but us - why can’t we just go out to Iowa or Indiana and pluck some farmboy from the cornfields who Can’t play a lick of d but can hit an open shot coming off bench. Also , I find it hard to believe that Ollie could not recruit one Dirt dog nasty SOB down low- I don’t get it - how come everyone else has these players but us? it’s mystifying to me. The player doesn’t have to be super talented - just have a nose for the ball - kind like a bigger of a vital type down low thats scrappy - we can’t find one player in the country like that? come on!
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I disagree on low basketball IQ -- I think Carlton actually has decent basketball IQ, he just has no athleticism or mean streak and therefore plays soft.

The guy you're looking for is Diarra. KO just found the only one who has the knees of a 70-year-old at age 17.

On Hurley's comments: I love it. I have no idea if he's going to follow through on it, and I don't even have an opinion on whether that would be a good thing, but it's great that he's saying it. I said weeks ago that he needs to go from cheerleader/building the team up, to demanding excellence in terms of basketball IQ and toughness on the court, and he's calling them out on it.
 
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