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Hurley: UConn between going young or still competing

JLock819 said:
I was the biggest KO supporter, but everything went down hill rapidly after the chip. The kids, obviously, own their development too but KO ran the program. He is responsible for the absolute debacle that was the last few yrs.
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Right there with ya. I sadly threw out an "Olliewood" t-shirt the other day
 
August_West said:
people forget we went to the round of 32 in 16. And were close to the bubble in 15.

Thats how bad the last 2 years (and now this year) were.

Because Id kill for 2016 even 2015 (boats senior year) right now.
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Winning record/postseason berth? 5-star FR starting at the three? Phil Nolan pulling down at least one charge per game? Sign me the heck up.
 
Stainmaster said:
Winning record/postseason berth? 5-star FR starting at the three? Phil Nolan pulling down at least one charge per game? Sign me the heck up.
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Thats why when people say "we went downhill fast" after the 14, I scratch my head. That Boat team (after losing Giffey, Napier, Daniels etc...) had no business winning 20 and being 10-8. No, we had 2 decent seasons. A post champ rebuild where we still won 20, and an AAC tourney championship and round of 32 loss to a 1 seed.
Its revisionist history.
 
August_West said:
Thats why when people say "we went downhill fast" after the 14, I scratch my head. That Boat team (after losing Giffey, Napier, Daniels etc...) had no business winning 20 and being 10-8. No, we had 2 decent seasons. A post champ rebuild where we still won 20, and an AAC tourney championship and round of 32 loss to a 1 seed.
Its revisionist history.
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The ‘15 season was NIT and ONLY due to Boat. His performance that year was legendary, go back and watch some of those games. It was 1 v 5 on the offensive end almost every game.

‘16 was a 75ft heave from the bubble... who knows how that season would’ve ended but happy to enjoy the Rd of 32.
 
JLock819 said:
The ‘15 season was NIT and ONLY due to Boat. His performance that year was legendary, go back and watch some of those games. It was 1 v 5 on the offensive end almost every game.

‘16 was a 75ft heave from the bubble... who knows how that season would’ve ended but happy to enjoy the Rd of 32.
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Um yeah. Because we just lost the nucleus of our team.

We had a Freshman point forward.

20 wins with that squad was solid.
 
JLock819 said:
I think what most are saying, and I tend to agree, is that Ollie left A LOT of the development to the kids to figure out on their own. Some could, most couldn’t. And here we are today...
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His development efforts pre and post championship were worlds apart fwiw
 
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KSC94 said:
His development efforts pre and post championship were worlds apart fwiw
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Who, KO? Isn’t that what I’ve been saying? Dropped off a cliff post championship.
 
August_West said:
Um yeah. Because we just lost the nucleus of our team.

We had a Freshman point forward.

20 wins with that squad was solid.
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Um yeah, you take Boat off that team and they, at max, win 15 games. Do you remember the game at Houston? There wasn’t a single guy on the roster other than Boat who could even get a shot off in crunch time.
 
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Friendship said:
Ollie didn't develop a thing. Identical stats year after year for these guys, eye test too. Ollie just got lucky Napier was great.
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Wrong Daniels had no role his freshman year with JC, Griffey was ok but became a really nice player his Jr year. Napier was a nice player his freshman year a pain in the butt his soph year and was really good his last 2 and Boat an impact player his last 2. Some JC in them no doubt but the final prints were drawn up by KO.

Then he sucked.
 
JMick said:
Sid oozes potential. If we want to be good next year, he has to be a major part of that. If that means he needs to play more this year to work out the kinks, then so be it
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Kid just needs minutes, reps and game maturity. Kid is a big time baller IMO. You can just see it.
 
the Q said:
With AG’s outside shooting, giving him some time off the ball might not be the worst thing for the offense either. Not a ton, but getting him more spot up opportunities can only help.
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I said this the other day. Maybe let he and Jalen share the PG spot and SG spot off and on. And sure enough, against UCF we see Al hit three early threes, mostly off of passes from Jalen I believe.

It is simply the case that Al is the better shooting guard of the two.
 
Ollie changed at some point.

Choose your favorite reason or combination of reasons but he was just different in 2013 than 2018.

A guy that did nothing but battle for decades essentially stopped battling.

What people used to laugh off as a mid-life crisis may have a much different cause.
 
August_West said:
Thats why when people say "we went downhill fast" after the 14, I scratch my head. That Boat team (after losing Giffey, Napier, Daniels etc...) had no business winning 20 and being 10-8. No, we had 2 decent seasons. A post champ rebuild where we still won 20, and an AAC tourney championship and round of 32 loss to a 1 seed.
Its revisionist history.
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Lol we were like preseason #15 in the country. We under performed.
 
Towney007 said:
Lol we were like preseason #15 in the country. We under performed.
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that was a way inflated ranking. Preseason rankings mean absloute jack crap .

We werent even in the top 60 in 2011.

But you want to put stock in them?
 
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August_West said:
that was a way inflated ranking. Preseason rankings mean absloute jack crap .

We werent even in the top 60 in 2011.

But you want to put stock in them?
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Rankings are complete garbage across the board no idea why anyone even looks.

Interesting tidbit tho - preseason rankings correlate better to tournament results than in season rankings.
 
whaler11 said:
Rankings are complete garbage across the board no idea why anyone even looks.

Interesting tidbit tho - preseason rankings correlate better to tournament results than in season rankings.
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they are pretty reliable on at the very top. Its easy to know who will be at the VERY top of the list and have that be an indicator.

Once you get into double digits. Forget it. Crap shoot.
 
Okay but acting like we blew through preseason expectations is absolute nonsense. Everyone on this board liked that team.
 
superjohn said:
Jalen has been a disaster for the team this year. If you think these 20 point performances by him are really doing anything towards the team winning and improving I don't know what to tell you.
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And what about what we owe him for how hard he has played for this university the last 3 years and not bailing like others. He deserves to play out his senior year.
 
My guess is Ollie never would have been successful at running a program like this but personally he fell off a cliff after he won the championship and it damaged the program badly.

He did some great things with the players he had his first two seasons though.
 
Towney007 said:
Okay but acting like we blew through preseason expectations is absolute nonsense. Everyone on this board liked that team.
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Of course. We just won a title and we’re adding a supposed Ferrari. But it was unknown quantities across every position except boat
 
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I’m rooting for Sid hard and even tho he’s only played a handful of Games, I wudda thought by now we would have seen him go on a little 6 to 8 point spurt in one of these games. Besides the little sequence he had in the Arizona game(Which was one of the more exciting moments of the year) XL center was going nuts - I think Sid might be more of a project than some of us are willing to admit
 
JB75 said:
I’m rooting for Sid hard and even tho he’s only played a handful of Games, I wudda thought by now we would have seen him go on a little 6 to 8 point spurt in one of these games. Besides the little sequence he had in the Arizona game(Which was one of the more exciting moments of the year) XL center was going nuts - I think Sid might be more of a project than some of us are willing to admit
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Sid really needs to improve his jump shot. With teams forcing us to play a half court game, his skill set is limited in these situations.
 
JB75 said:
I’m rooting for Sid hard and even tho he’s only played a handful of Games, I wudda thought by now we would have seen him go on a little 6 to 8 point spurt in one of these games. Besides the little sequence he had in the Arizona game(Which was one of the more exciting moments of the year) XL center was going nuts - I think Sid might be more of a project than some of us are willing to admit
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I think it’s simply too soon to tell. He is certainly intriguing with the ability he has.
 
BFieldHusky said:
Sid really needs to improve his jump shot. With teams forcing us to play a half court game, his skill set is limited in these situations.
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he is shooting missiles with zero arc to them. Really needs to work on that in the off season.

He has had some really awful stretches of floor time the last couple games USF especially his first run in the first half was putrid at both ends for 2 minutes straght.

But I want him in there. He has a high ceiling if he gets some game reps and can put it together. Really intriguing toolbox he has. I thought at the end of the game when we were trapping out of the press at USF that he was the one who made them uncomfortable.
 
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