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Hurley: UConn between going young or still competing

Maybe we stun everyone and play our balls off tmrw. I just wanna see effort and an improved offense with less turnovers. Can we at least do that the rest of tear?
 
JB75 said:
Maybe we stun everyone and play our balls off tmrw. I just wanna see effort and an improved offense with less turnovers. Can we at least do that the rest of tear?
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If they can somehow give a game long effort, for me, it will be fun watching. I want to win but that's more of a hope this year than expectation; I have a hard time watching when the effort doesn't seem to meet the eye test. It wasn't that long ago that I thought this team was really fun to watch; maybe I got blinded by that light but I'm hoping otherwise.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
I think we have a different definition of the word “disaster”. Take him out of the rotation, then you’ll see what a disaster is, I can assure you that.
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Reminds me of watching Carmelo at the end with the Knicks. You might peek at the boxscore and think he must have been pretty good cuz he got 18-20 points, then you actually watch the game....
 
Really Its simple.

Sid needs to see a lot more floor.

Its pretty easy.
All our guys can play more than one spot. Sid is a 3 really, but is playing 4 now. CV is a 2/3.... Jalen is a 2/1..........

Sid or Polley at the 4.
Sid or CV spot BA at the 3
CV or Jalen or BA at the 2
Alterique or Jalen at the 1

Tarin Smith doesnt need to see the floor. Swapping/Rotating players through those positions will give Sid and Polley and Alterique the time they need while still getting CV and Jalen the minutes you need to actually have people who can score a hoop. and BA can get 10 maybe depending on game......


for the 5 spot? who cares? Nothing happening here no matter what

Carlton and Whaley with Cobb and Yakwe spotting
 
It's not the NFL draft, we won't get better recruits by tanking. I'm assuming he's calling out Jalen Adams and Cobb. Can't be Vital. We have no choice to play Carlton, Whaley and Sid with all the injuries.

Sid is the only one I feel with benefit from more playing time. B. Adams isn't any good.
 
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superjohn said:
Some people probably won't like this but it's one of the things I love about Hurley, he's extremely candid and won't give you the politicians response.

He knows there is no getting through to Jalen and the frontcourt is a disaster. It's unfrotunate that outside of playing Alterique and Sid all of the minutes and giving Brendan Adams a much bigger roll there isn't all that much he can do for the future. I guess play Josh the whole game but we all know how that'll go.
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He knows the front court is a disaster. He's proly also starting to realize that the guys with the requisite talent (AG & Sid) aren't ready yet. I'm sure he's also trying to send a message.

It's extremely unlikely that he feels there is no getting through to Adams.
 
superjohn said:
Reminds me of watching Carmelo at the end with the Knicks. You might peek at the boxscore and think he must have been pretty good cuz he got 18-20 points, then you actually watch the game....
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Agree, I'd always held out a tiny bit of hope that he was capable of putting the team on his back and taking it to a next level. Watching the USF game extinguished a lot of whatever was left of that hope.
 
upstater said:
Great lineup--except when it comes to scoring.
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it's hard to pickup sarcasm here sometimes, so just in case we missed each others attempts at it see below:

yukonfan4 said:
the question mark next to improved(?) was meant to convey skepticism. obviously that lineup wouldn't win as many games as the current one. that's a given and misses hurley's point of contemplating the change in the first place
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kansashusky said:
The ceiling of Sid and BA is much higher than Whaley and Carlton, and they can grow from valuable minutes. Whaley and Carlton don't have a high ceiling, and playing them more will just result in us losing, and not gaining anything.

Polley, if he is hitting shots, has a decent ceiling, but he is so limited physically, both defending and rebounding, that more playing time wont't equal his entire development.
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Sid could be better than Polley by the end of the year if he adjusts. Right now, the speed on the game is definitely a bit much for him, and he’s clearly nervous judging by the missed layups/dunks. It makes sense to keep playing Wilson.

I don’t think much can be done about the center situation. Carlton already plays more than Cobb, and we lost Yakwe. We really are stuck at that spot. Whaley has a low floor and ceiling. He’s a foul trouble big only IMO.

I think the biggest potential change could be BA’s minutes. If he could prove himself more, we could use his size (relative to the other guards) at the 3 this year. Wouldn’t mind him playing more at Smith’s expense if the game flow permits. It would really make sense if he could shoot 36%+ from 3 in conference play.
 
To me, part of this is just candid and part of it is issuing a challenge to the older guys. He's basically telling them that if they don't step it up, we're going to lose anyway and if that's the case then we'll lose with the young guys.
 
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JB75 said:
CV shud not get his minutes cut back. Maybe Jalen a little and deff Tarin smith
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Why cut our most productive guard minutes in CV. Jalen fine but I want to continue to see CV play significant minutes. He can have an even greater impact as on the floor leader for our young guards. He definitely will be a better guard to look up to than Jalen is right now with his attitude.
 
superjohn said:
Jalen has been a disaster for the team this year. If you think these 20 point performances by him are really doing anything towards the team winning and improving I don't know what to tell you.
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I would definitely not call him a disaster. Definitely a regression from last season but he is still the best player on the floor who can create his own offense. He is the difference to losing by 10 instead of 30 like last year. The difference between this year and last year is we have 2 extra guards to help out and mitigate some of the damage. Unfortunately our front line is just as bad as last year if not worst with Carlton's regression.
 
CardiacAndre7 said:
This is a bad look.
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The boneyard can call it a season one game into conference play with a key injury. Never the coach. At least Ollie would say we gonna keep grindin. Work hard and be strong for one another. Cuz we’re UConn 10 toes in. Stair takers. Planting seeds in the garden. We don’t jump ship with the rats. Practice is Greta. Got a new Lamborghini in the garage. And a Ferrari. Not throw in the towel.
 
Hi-Low said:
Somehow I don't see Wilson playing the 5 spot for Cobb. Yes Wilson will get minutes but Cobb has to play the 5 with Carlton otherwise someone might get killed.
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Carlton will only play 8-10 minutes a game due to fouling out.
 
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3rdbass said:
I would definitely not call him a disaster. Definitely a regression from last season but he is still the best player on the floor who can create his own offense. He is the difference to losing by 10 instead of 30 like last year. The difference between this year and last year is we have 2 extra guards to help out and mitigate some of the damage. Unfortunately our front line is just as bad as last year if not worst with Carlton's regression.
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I haven't seen him be the best player on the floor in any of our games against the non cupcakes.
 
JMick said:
Well it's good he didn't say they've made a decision yet, then. Never understood getting mad at a coach when they give an honest answer. I much prefer it to a load of bull Spartacus
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I’m not mad I’ll judge him by what he actually does - but it’s a weird thing to even say. They don’t lack for available minutes and no one all that interesting to give more to.
 
MervthePurvis said:
The boneyard can call it a season one game into conference play with a key injury. Never the coach. At least Ollie would say we gonna keep grindin. Work hard and be strong for one another. Cuz we’re UConn 10 toes in. Stair takers. Planting seeds in the garden. We don’t jump ship with the rats. Practice is Greta. Got a new Lamborghini in the garage. And a Ferrari. Not throw in the towel.
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Good lord, I don't miss that. You just gave me chest pains repeating all the cliched cutesy hollow nonsense.
 
Cv is a guy “culturally” Dan Hurley seems to want the team to be like, comments in the past have shown this. Keep CV’s minutes, let him rub off on some the others. Other players who can casually go they the motions & produce results may look good on an end game box score but may sabotage long term plans.
 
A suspension for a scooter is one thing, a “I’ll take your minutes away during your pro try out year if you don’t get it together” is something totally different. Should show a lot about JA If he actually follows thru.
 
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whaler11 said:
I’m not mad I’ll judge him by what he actually does - but it’s a weird thing to even say. They don’t lack for available minutes and no one all that interesting to give more to.
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Eh I don't know. Maybe by this he just means playing Sid and B Adams more minutes than they've gotten
 
upstater said:
I don't think the young guys we want to develop are actually even on this current team.
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Agree & disagree. While our current roster construction has us playing guys like Sid & BA @ the 4 & 3 respectively. The future of the team prob has Sid more 3 w/ some PT @ the 4 & BA @ 2-3.
 
kansashusky said:
I dont understand the sentiment at all.

We don't gain anything from going young. We will just get embarrassed this year. Hurley needs to win games to show progress from Ollie.

We do need to play Sid and BA more, but outside of that, what is the advantage?

Whaley and Carlton will not benefit from more minutes IMO.
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It could be something to say to challenge Jalen and the other older players.
 
MervthePurvis said:
The boneyard can call it a season one game into conference play with a key injury. Never the coach. At least Ollie would say we gonna keep grindin. Work hard and be strong for one another. Cuz we’re UConn 10 toes in. Stair takers. Planting seeds in the garden. We don’t jump ship with the rats. Practice is Greta. Got a new Lamborghini in the garage. And a Ferrari. Not throw in the towel.
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You forgot a rolling stone gathers no moss....
 
3rdbass said:
I would definitely not call him a disaster. Definitely a regression from last season but he is still the best player on the floor who can create his own offense. He is the difference to losing by 10 instead of 30 like last year. The difference between this year and last year is we have 2 extra guards to help out and mitigate some of the damage. Unfortunately our front line is just as bad as last year if not worst with Carlton's regression.
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Carlton has gotten even better defensively.

But yes he still gets in too much foul trouble to be a difference maker.
 
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