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How do we know Donovan Williams is as good as some claim? Should Diaco find a backup?

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Confident Carl said:
Preferred Walk on Brandon Bisak from Andrew Ward, in Fairfield. He is 6'5"230 and looked good in the Spring game. I can see him being awarded a scholarship next year. That will give you 4 options. With MA recruit Jordan McAfee being the 4th. Tyler Davis will most likely also be available if needed.
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I had thought Bisack would be playing by now. Saw him play in HS, in the toughest league in the state, and if he had had some blockers and receivers, he would have gotten some offers. I hope BD gives him some snaps, unless he inherited some of PP's arrogance. Lol
 
Confident Carl said:
I think Casey Cochran, Chandler Whitmer, Michael Nebrich and Richard Lagow would take exception. Casey unfortunately got hurt, Whitmer had no protection what so ever.
Nebrich and Lagow never played. Nebrich excelled at Fordham and Lagow is starting at Indiana.

COLUMN: IU needs to unleash Richard Lagow
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Nebrich set a lot of Virginia passing records. I thought he was a terrific young freshman when he came here, reminded me a lot of Matt Grothe. PP, that arrogant old man, duck*ing ruined him, benched him with the hope that Johnny McEntee would turn into Carson Palmer. Lol
 
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businesslawyer said:
The sad thing is that many here probably assume that I write/talk like this because I'm a lawyer. Unfortunately, it's more that I became a lawyer because that's how I write/talk/think.
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Who gives a sheet? Lol, just messing with you. I actually agree with both (all?) your points on this topic.
 
WingU-Conn said:
Thanks for proving my point.

Let's burn a redshirt halfway through the season to see if we need to bring in a transfer, who wouldn't be able to play next year anyway, or a JUCO. Because obviously JUCO QBs are an upgrade, just ask backup Garret Anderson. Unless a transfer is available, but we've got one of those too and the performance is still lacking. So let's run a true freshman out there, because if there's one thing we can learn about the long term viability of a QB, it's how he performs as a true freshman with a below average offensive line.

But wait, there's more. The B12 isn't concerned about our attendance, our brand, our tradition, our market value, our academics, our leadership, or our culture; they want to see how that true freshman looks on tape. Because the long term CR/GOR issues alway come down to who you have behind center.

Delete your account.
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Wow, where to start with your nonsense?
How does playing a Freshman QB automatically bring you to the conclusion that a Transfer or Juco QB needs to come into the program?
No connection there. Last time I checked NCAA student-athletes have 4 years of eligibility. If Williams plays as a Freshman he still has 3 more years of eligibility. There is already another QB commit coming in next year and from Recruitng Boards its easy to see that additional QB's are being targeted.
Shireffs has eligibility next season, correct? T Davis has 3 more years after this season (By the way, second straight week he looked real good holding for FG's and PAT's--so glad they converted him to TE where he gets to show off his crazy receiving skills). Doesn't seem to be a shortage of QB's.

How misguided are you to believe the Big12 is the best option for UCONN? In football, think "bug on windshield", think Rutgers in Big10.
The best and only landing spot for UCONN for football , and all sports, is ACC. Clemson and FSU both likely moving to preferred Conf affiliation outside ACC.

Take your BP meds , catch your breath, count to 10 before your next post.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Love dumb person logic. Let me spell it out for you in clear terms. Stating, in effect, that our head coach is far, far from infallible (you hardly need to convince me) is not at all dispositive of (or frankly even relevant to) whether someone who has never seen Williams play (that would be you Einstein) is in a position to rationally second guess the evaluation of someone who sees him practice every day.
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Another Poster Tough Guy
businesslawyer said:
Love dumb person logic. Let me spell it out for you in clear terms. Stating, in effect, that our head coach is far, far from infallible (you hardly need to convince me) is not at all dispositive of (or frankly even relevant to) whether someone who has never seen Williams play (that would be you Einstein) is in a position to rationally second guess the evaluation of someone who sees him practice every day.
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Nice that you resort to name calling and personal attacks on someone else's opinion. Is that what they taught you at the Correspondence School you got your so-called Law Degree from. You bring validity to the old joke "What do you call a bus load of lawyers crashing over a cliff........"
 
UCONN FB said:
Another Poster Tough Guy

Nice that you resort to name calling and personal attacks on someone else's opinion. Is that what they taught you at the Correspondence School you got your so-called Law Degree from. You bring validity to the old joke "What do you call a bus load of lawyers crashing over a cliff..."
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Internet tough guy calls out other internet tough guys.

You are free to stop by my tailgate and prove that the biggest muscles on your body aren't in your fingers. Bring your own food and drink cause I'm not sharing sheet with you.
 
huskyrob1 said:
Nebrich set a lot of Virginia passing records. I thought he was a terrific young freshman when he came here, reminded me a lot of Matt Grothe. PP, that arrogant old man, duck*ing ruined him, benched him with the hope that Johnny McEntee would turn into Carson Palmer. Lol
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Amazing to this day what the hell the guy ever saw in the McEntee to put him on the field without a couple of QB's being injured. Was the beginning of a long draught at the QB position which lives on. Up to Diaco to find the next one who can make an impact. Love the toughness of Shireffs and thought we'd see improvement, but he's not the answer either. Watch all the games, you know you need a slinger or an athlete who can sling enough. We'll see!
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Internet tough guy calls out other internet tough guys.

You are free to stop by my tailgate and prove that the biggest muscles on your body aren't in your fingers. Bring your own food and drink cause I'm not sharing sheet with you.
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Thanks for the invite but being up front in the Blue Lot since the stadium opened I'm not sure I'll want to wander all the way back to the Red Lot Runway to join your Hot Dog and Spam Shindig.
 
I'm in the Blue Lot...I'll gladly host a UConn FB vs Serrano shindig. Hell, I'll even supply drinks.
 
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UCONN FB said:
Thanks for the invite but being up front in the Blue Lot since the stadium opened I'm not sure I'll want to wander all the way back to the Red Lot Runway to join your Hot Dog and Spam Shindig.
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Laughable. These guys could rent you for a day to shine their shoes . . .
 
Can you name the last freshman recruit that started more than half the games at QB in his senior season?

Yes, we should recruit as many QB as we can. We have yet to find a good one out of HS that panned out.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
Since some of you just chose to insult me rather than deal with the bigger issue -- my input was not really needed. Here is one key point: UConn can take preemptive action now to ensure this website next year or the year after is not filled with negative comments that we need a better quarterback. UConn is not going to get into the top 30 rankings without this kind of effort. And without a top ranking I doubt a power five conference is going to let us in. Perhaps, the B12 will prove me wrong next week. I hope so.
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Check this guy out, ^^^^. He's sloved all of our problems. We just need a top 25 QB. Well it's a good thing you showed up.

BS isn't the problem. Travel in all directions. How far do you have to go to find one that is so much better and would have come to Uconn?

The guy in Indiana was a head case who never would have lasted here, so he''s out. You want Rutgers QB? Deleware's? That's the pool you are playing in. CT's best HS QB didn't last a week in the program.

BS could make better decisions, but the staff could just as easily call better plays for him.

Our problem is the line. It's always about the line at UConn. No one has any idea on any given play if they will hold up. I imagine that has some effect on the QB play.

We can't run, but we keep trying. Setting up third and long a lot.

BS can't hit the deep fade/go. Yet we keep calling it. He can hit the out, the hitch, the come back, the post, the seam, the slant, and the cross. Call those instead.

We can't block or get the WR screen to work quickly enough, stop calling it so much.

We have trouble at the goal line, yet we never call the spider 2 Y banana, universally known as a near sure thing. The pats ran it yesterday. Easy potch and catch.

Our defense is slow in the middle and on the edge. We don't pressure the qb. We play well for stretches, then give up long touchdowns.

We get nothing out of the return game.

But let's talk about the QB like we just started watching FB yesterday. BS isn't a top QB, but in the history of our program he is.

If you want to butch about the offense last week, focus on why it took so long to find our All American WR.
 
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SubbaBub said:
Check this guy out, ^^^^. He's sloved all of our problems. We just need a top 25 QB. Well it's a good thing you showed up.

BS isn't the problem. Travel in all directions. How far do you have to go to find one that is so much better and would have come to Uconn?

The guy in Indiana was a head case who never would have lasted here, so he''s out. You want Rutgers QB? Deleware's? That's the pool you are playing in. CT's best HS QB didn't last a week in the program.

BS could make better decisions, but the staff could just as easily call better plays for him.

Our problem is the line. It's always about the line at UConn. No one has any idea on any given play if they will hold up. I imagine that has some effect on the QB play.

We can't run, but we keep trying. Setting up third and long a lot.

BS can't hit the deep fade/go. Yet we keep calling it. He can hit the out, the hitch, the come back, the post, the seam, the slant, and the cross. Call those instead.

We can't block or get the WR screen to work quickly enough, stop calling it so much.

We have trouble at the goal line, yet we never call the spider 2 Y banana, universally known as a near sure thing. The pats ran it yesterday. Easy potch and catch.

Our defense is slow in the middle and on the edge. We don't pressure the qb. We play well for stretches, then give up long touchdowns.

We get nothing out of the return game.

But let's talk about the QB like we just started watching FB yesterday. BS isn't a top QB, but in the history of our program he is.

If you want to butch about the offense last week, focus on why it took so long to find our All American WR.
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It's this guy and the other dimwit. Thinking outside the box entails wanting a better QB. Why didn't anyone else think up this brilliant plan? We need a better QB. Find the next Lamar Jackson.

Then throws down the Superfan card. Special kind of stupid.
 
I know some of you don't like to be bothered with actual trends, but did you see this recent story from The Washington Post. (Oh yeah, I forgot we don't need to read that -- it wasn't written by the self-proclaimed rulers of the Boneyard).

The practice of waiting for a college quarterback to develop is quickly going extinct, an antiquated custom akin to the wishbone offense and recruits who aren’t on Snapchat. Top quarterbacks show up in the fall of their freshman season, or even the spring before, already equipped with enough know-how to saunter into the starting huddle. The position that supposedly takes longest to master has been overrun by collegiate neophytes.

Why freshman quarterbacks are taking over college football
 
LoyalFanCT said:
I know some of you don't like to be bothered with actual trends, but did you see this recent story from The Washington Post. (Oh yeah, I forgot we don't need to read that -- it wasn't written by the self-proclaimed rulers of the Boneyard).

The practice of waiting for a college quarterback to develop is quickly going extinct, an antiquated custom akin to the wishbone offense and recruits who aren’t on Snapchat. Top quarterbacks show up in the fall of their freshman season, or even the spring before, already equipped with enough know-how to saunter into the starting huddle. The position that supposedly takes longest to master has been overrun by collegiate neophytes.

Why freshman quarterbacks are taking over college football
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My bad. We should've listened to you guys all along. We need to do more things like Bama, FSU, Texas A&M and like. We should recruit more like them. Recruit against them actually. We should allocate 100% of our recruiting budget chasing these types of kids.

So given all that, we should absolutely play Donovan Williams this year behind our offensive line. It worked so well with Tim Boyle.
 
The whole O-line thing is tiresome. Some other poster wrote on a previous thread, "maybe BS makes the line look bad."

I'd like to see Williams this year or he'll go into next year with zero experience competing with BS again and we'll be watching another lost season, especially with no Noel Thomas to throw to.

Jimmy Serrano said:
My bad. We should've listened to you guys all along. We need to do more things like Bama, FSU, Texas A&M and like. We should recruit more like them. Recruit against them actually. We should allocate 100% of our recruiting budget chasing these types of kids.

So given all that, we should absolutely play Donovan Williams this year behind our offensive line. It worked so well with Tim Boyle.
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JSM1970 said:
The whole O-line thing is tiresome. Some other poster wrote on a previous thread, "maybe BS makes the line look bad."

I'd like to see Williams this year or he'll go into next year with zero experience competing with BS again and we'll be watching another lost season, especially with no Noel Thomas to throw to.
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Yeah getting tiresome. Have you read all of the posters clamoring for more involvement of the TE's? We actually sent them out on routes against USF. The result was BS nearly ending up in the hospital.

You guys are free to believe and post whatever you like. I'm just glad you guys have no input into the actual game planning.

You know what is getting tiresome? The criticism of BS and the desire to burn everything to the ground after every loss.
 
UCONN FB said:
Wow, where to start with your nonsense?
How does playing a Freshman QB automatically bring you to the conclusion that a Transfer or Juco QB needs to come into the program?
No connection there. Last time I checked NCAA student-athletes have 4 years of eligibility. If Williams plays as a Freshman he still has 3 more years of eligibility. There is already another QB commit coming in next year and from Recruitng Boards its easy to see that additional QB's are being targeted.
Shireffs has eligibility next season, correct? T Davis has 3 more years after this season (By the way, second straight week he looked real good holding for FG's and PAT's--so glad they converted him to TE where he gets to show off his crazy receiving skills). Doesn't seem to be a shortage of QB's.

How misguided are you to believe the Big12 is the best option for UCONN? In football, think "bug on windshield", think Rutgers in Big10.
The best and only landing spot for UCONN for football , and all sports, is ACC. Clemson and FSU both likely moving to preferred Conf affiliation outside ACC.

Take your BP meds , catch your breath, count to 10 before your next post.
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My BP is fantastic, thank you for caring. If I was out of breath, it was from laughing at the genius(s) who connected the B12 invite into bringing in another QB. You missed just about the entire context of my post. Well done. Given that you can't be bothered to read the thread for context, you aren't worth the time it would take to respond and explain.
 
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JSM1970 said:
The whole O-line thing is tiresome. Some other poster wrote on a previous thread, "maybe BS makes the line look bad."

I'd like to see Williams this year or he'll go into next year with zero experience competing with BS again and we'll be watching another lost season, especially with no Noel Thomas to throw to.
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Did you not notice how many guys ran free to the QB on Saturday? Free, as in completely untouched. Even making a hot read you're not going to have much success with guys sprinting into the backfield with nobody so much as laying a hand on them. That's on the line, as well as the running backs not making the right reads and picking up the blitzing linebackers and safeties.
 
BS can make zero plays with his feet and has zero escapability. we all acknowledge he plays hard, he just has zero QB skills like NC State determined early on.

We know his ceiling, can we try something new and see what it looks like. Not saying to kick him off the team or anything.

Jimmy Serrano said:
Yeah getting tiresome. Have you read all of the posters clamoring for more involvement of the TE's? We actually sent them out on routes against USF. The result was BS nearly ending up in the hospital.

You guys are free to believe and post whatever you like. I'm just glad you guys have no input into the actual game planning.

You know what is getting tiresome? The criticism of BS and the desire to burn everything to the ground after every loss.
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Jimmy, you raise the issue of recruiting budgets. Worth looking into this topic. Some schools spend more than others. But in a USA Today article, Wisconsin associate athletics director for external relations Justin Doherty said, "it's not about the money. It's about building relationships with a prospect and a coach." The article also reports "spending does not equal winning."

Schools in power conferences spending more on recruiting
 
LoyalFanCT said:
Jimmy, you raise the issue of recruiting budgets. Worth looking into this topic. Some schools spend more than others. But in a USA Today article, Wisconsin associate athletics director for external relations Justin Doherty said, "it's not about the money. It's about building relationships with a prospect and a coach." The article also reports "spending does not equal winning."

Schools in power conferences spending more on recruiting
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Are you implying that Diaco and staff aren't capable of building those relationships? It's probably their greatest strength, but it's only part of the overall decision criteria faced by a prospective athlete.
 
CTMike said:
Are you implying that Diaco and staff aren't capable of building those relationships? It's probably their greatest strength, but it's only part of the overall decision criteria faced by a prospective athlete.
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No, he's throwing anything against the wall to see if it will stick. We all know that staff is going to continue to recruit QBs, and obviously they are going after the best players they believe we have a chance to land. The two questions asked in the thread title can be easily answered in four words...

We don't. He's trying.
 
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