Here’s a bombshell

[huskymedic]

Well, considering USC and UCLA "applied" and it stayed out of the news, I'd say public posturing is a desperate attempt for attention.

 

[ZooCougar]

The ACC is next.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Uconn is on its 4th President in 4 years- not a winning formula for leadership

You can stretch this to 20 years where we've had a considerable leadership void.

Every president over that stretch was an interim, either by label or by action.

 

[Skiblets]

Uconn is on its 4th President in 4 years- not a winning formula for leadership

Lack of leadership over the last 10 years has killed UConn . No stability nor tenure

 

[ZooCougar]

Maybe FSU, Clemson, and Miami to the SEC.

Then UConn, ND, and Kansas to the ACC?

FSU and Clemson to the SEC. UNC and Duke to the B1G.

 

[UconnPT2007]

No ACC schools are leaving that conference due to GOR through 2037. They’ll look to add most likely. I’d guess the remnants of the big12 and pac12 will form a conference.

The only way for the B1G to access the Northeast region is to add Uconn. Don’t think it’ll happen, though.

 

[BigTenFan]

Lack of leadership over the last 10 years has killed UConn . No stability nor tenure

Probably starts with a weak Board of Trustees - not sure why our Flagship University has such a poor track record of hiring.

 

[Storrs South]

You can stretch this to 20 years where we've had a considerable leadership void.

Every president over that stretch was an interim, either by label or by action.

I don't think that's a fair characterization of Herbst or (Austin), granted she was the one that presided over the ACC debacle back in the early 2010s, but she had also just walked in the door but she was not an interim in any facet to my memory. The university did thrive under her academically but of course she is responsible for athletics not being in what used to be the P5 today which I guess doesn't matter as much now today as it did yesterday.

 

[superjohn]

This is true (and better for the point being made).

My apologies.

It's just stuck in my head that California if it was a country would have the 5th highest GDP and it's shy of $4 trillion.

A lot of money in the Northeast and it's not that huge an area.

 

[superjohn]

You can stretch this to 20 years where we've had a considerable leadership void.

Every president over that stretch was an interim, either by label or by action.

UConn leadership has been abysmal for a long time.

 

[JeepCSC]

The northeast corridor would be the 4th largest economy in the world if it's at $4 trillion.

But it’s also the most pro-heavy region in the nation. It’s not a stronghold for college sports. The West Coast has had similar issues, and now it’s power conference was just neutered.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Washington, Oregon, Notre Dame, and UConn to round out the B1G. Who says no?

I would love the idea but why would the B10 take UConn now, given the competition. I think ACC more likely landing place for UConn. One thing for both conferences is that Connecticut's media market includes metro NYC. That is a prize.

 

[superjohn]

But it’s also the most pro-heavy region in the nation. It’s not a stronghold for college sports.

Northeast is college hoops crazy, they just unfortunately don't do college football well so there's disinterest.

 

[upstater]

you're not reading. this is assuming colorado is one of the 6 schools that leaves. i'm a Cal fan and no one cares about their football program, not even the students. wsu and osu bring nothing to the table either.

the big12 already brings in more revenue than the PAC and you think losing half its members will someone change that?

The B1G is making an incredible amount of money. They won't share it with the rest of the Pac-10. If these schools had value, the Pac Network would be making them a bundle.

 

[upstater]

How so? It states the GOR would have to be paid, meaning for the next 15 years. I don’t fully understand it all, but it doesn’t equate to a relatively small buyout to me. Unless you mean football only, which I don’t see B1G allowing them to only come in football for next 15 years.

The B1G payout dwarfs NDs payout for basketball from the ACC. By a lot.

 

[shizzle787]

The B1G payout dwarfs NDs payout for basketball from the ACC. By a lot.

ND currently gets everything it wants: football independence, national coverage on NBC, access to the CFP, basketball in the ACC, and hockey in the B1G. They are still getting a healthy sum of money from NBC. They will be fine.

 

[Salty Dog]

Kansas to the Big East & football independent?

This was posted on Kansas forum a few hours ago. Tweet was sent out by Xavier (can't confirm real since I didn't see it myself).

 

[LoyalFanCT]

Kansas to the Big East & football independent?

This was posted on Kansas forum a few hours ago. Tweet was sent out by Xavier (can't confirm real since I didn't see it myself).

What do people here think about this. Could it lead to UConn and Kansas becoming friendly rivals, and then going together as a pair to B10 or ACC.

 

[runner11]

I wonder if the next big shoe to drop is the two super conferences telling the NCAA “hey, it’s been a blast, but we’ve got it from here”.

As for the ACC GOR, I assume at some price a school can buy back their interest. Assuming the differential between getting in with the SEC/Big or not justifies the price.

Agree that I don’t think the SEC needs FSU or Clemson. People keep confusing markets with success on the field. NC and Virginia are the big incremental markets to grab.

Agree with the first 2 points but markets matter less and less with streaming.

 

[bendm]

The B1G is making an incredible amount of money. They won't share it with the rest of the Pac-10. If these schools had value, the Pac Network would be making them a bundle.

Are you saying the big10 isn’t interested in also adding UW and oregon etc? I bet they are

 

[Dean Wormer]

I'd think it would have to be Stanford. Academics line up with B1G "beliefs/standards". Huge market for NoCal. Easy flights in/out of SFO or other airports. Money isn't an issue for Stanford. Big name recognition and outstanding in Olympic and non-revenue sports.

Notre Dame. This move was about backing the leprechaun into a corner and forcing him to break. That’s what’s up.

 

[CL82]

It’s like $38M a year, so yeah. Take $38M from an ACC school and you have UConn’s budget situation. It’s not doable while also trying to run a Big Ten program for 15 years on zero television money.

I don’t know if anyone really knows Notre Dame’s situation with the ACC…I guess I would be shocked if it was not a sweetheart deal for the Irish.

I actually think 38 million a year is high even for a full member. I think it’s more like 32 million a year. Keep in mind however, that Notre Dame is not a full member. They are only in for basketball an Olympic sports. They get paid $10.8 million per year.

So, if Notre Dame decides that they finally want to join the Big Ten, their ACC GOR isn’t going to be an impediment. Let’s say that the value of their basketball an Olympic sports is worth double in the Big Ten what it is in the ACC, which is probably just a little bit high. they’d be giving up 20 million of the 60 that they would get in the big 10 leaving them with 40 million or roughly 30 million more than they’re making now.

Link

 

[Chin Diesel]

Notre Dame. This move was about backing the leprechaun into a corner and forcing him to break. That’s what’s up.

Yes, I am quite certain the B1G or any other conference would love to have ND.

 

[CL82]

It might be news to you, but it’s the same as it always has been. Exit fee (~$52 million) + GOR. Notre Dame has a football contract with NBC so the ACC only owns 5 games/year.

Notre Dame could chase the money of course. The college landscape has changed irrefutably. I think UNC could be looking at negotiated settlement at this point, but who knows. The B10 seems to have gone all-in on the West Coast, so the SEC might be the only suiter. Time will tell. And maybe sooner than anyone expected from even this morning.

The ACC doesn’t “own” any of Notre Dame’s football games. Notre Dame is independent but has a scheduling agreement with the ACC.

 

[JeepCSC]

I actually think 38 million a year is high even for a full member. I think it’s more like 32 million a year. Keep in mind however, that Notre Dame is not a full member. They are only in for basketball an Olympic sports. They get paid $10.8 million per year.

So, if Notre Dame decides that they finally want to join the Big Ten, their ACC GOR isn’t going to be an impediment. Let’s say that the value of their basketball an Olympic sports is worth double in the Big Ten what it is in the ACC, which is probably just a little bit high. they’d be giving up 20 million of the 60 that they would get in the big 10 leaving them with 40 million or roughly 30 million more than they’re making now.

Link

Well the numbers are a bit off. ACC is at $36 million payout now, though it will go up as the ACC Network now is at full rollout. And you forgot to add the NBC contract of about $15 million.

Back of the envelope if ND left by 2025, it would cost ND $52 million + ($11 million x 11 years) = $173 million. Doable with the B10 payouts, but not nothing. ND has consistently taken much less money to not play the B10. USC and the college landscape may have shaken things up enough to change the calculations. Time will tell.

 

[Fishy]

I actually think 38 million a year is high even for a full member. I think it’s more like 32 million a year. Keep in mind however, that Notre Dame is not a full member. They are only in for basketball an Olympic sports. They get paid $10.8 million per year.

So, if Notre Dame decides that they finally want to join the Big Ten, their ACC GOR isn’t going to be an impediment. Let’s say that the value of their basketball an Olympic sports is worth double in the Big Ten what it is in the ACC, which is probably just a little bit high. they’d be giving up 20 million of the 60 that they would get in the big 10 leaving them with 40 million or roughly 30 million more than they’re making now.

Link

I’m not including ND with ACC schools.

I really have no idea what their situation is with the ACC and I don’t think either side has actually spelled it out. I remember Swofford saying that if ND joined a conference, it would have to be the ACC, but I am also sure that the time period in question was not the duration of the television contract.

 

[CL82]

I’m not including ND with ACC schools.

I really have no idea what their situation is with the ACC and I don’t think either side has actually spelled it out. I remember Swofford saying that if ND joined a conference, it would have to be the ACC, but I am also sure that the time period in question was not the duration of the television contract.

The SI article that I linked spells out the numbers. Now that you mention it, I do remember that there was some provision for period of time that if Notre Dame was to join the conference it would be the ACC. I have no recollection of whether there was any penalty provision associated with that outside of what they forfeit for GOR and exit fees.

 

[JeepCSC]

The ACC doesn’t “own” any of Notre Dame’s football games. Notre Dame is independent but has a scheduling agreement with the ACC.

They own the tv rights to Notre Dame’s football games at ACC arenas. It’s why you can find some Irish games on the ACC network.

 

[Dean Wormer]

Yes, I am quite certain the B1G or any other conference would love to have ND.

Of course. But more than that, if ND wants independence but all their options are in the BiG, like USC & Michigan for example, then they’ll be forced to join whether they like it or not.
Either way they’ll get paid, but if they have to choose between SEC or B1G, who do you think they’ll go with?

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Are the B1G and $EC going to start kicking out the worthless schools (Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Rutgers, Minnesota, Mississippi St, etc) when they try to raid the top dogs of the ACC and PAC?

The SEC loves Vandy it gives them a semblance of credibility as academic institutions plus who doesn’t like going to Nashville
Also 3 interstates meet in that City and they have a great Airport.
24, 65, and the mighty 40 .
Other than NO. What SEC city is even close. Plus it’s normally a win All Great reasons for a road trip.
if Vandy were in my league it’s a road game I would pencil in .
Minnesota is very deep in Big Ten lore , Bronko Nukurski‘s school and a power in bygone years. Where talking the History Channel Conference here .
Northwestern again is a very prestigious co founder of the Western close to Chicago see Minnesota.
That leaves Mississippi State and Rutgers both difficult to rationalize . Other than one‘s a legacy , and the other is the Flagship school of a large state adjacent to an unrepresented larger state . That’s the best I can come up with.