GoT Season Seven

[CTMike]

My hatred for Sansa is all consuming.

Plus I didn't remind her. Bran did.

Also back on point. Bran is asking for Jon because he wants to tell him he's a Targaryen, right?

I liked the dragon stone scenes this week and agree with Nelson about not having Jon bend the knee. But there was something painful about those scenes I don't think I'm a big fan of the way Danny is written and played right now

She spent a lot of seasons being "for the people" and now she's all "I've never met you but I demand you bend the knee". Would have liked her to handle the meeting with a little more savvy. Jon should have handled it better too.

 

[Scalito]

My hatred for Sansa is all consuming.

Plus I didn't remind her. Bran did.

Also back on point. Bran is asking for Jon because he wants to tell him he's a Targaryen, right?

I liked the dragon stone scenes this week and agree with Nelson about not having Jon bend the knee. But there was something painful about those scenes I don't think I'm a big fan of the way Danny is written and played right now

Daenerys has always sucked. She is a millstone wrapped around the neck of GOT. In the books too. Who wants to read about Danny going on a scavenger hunt across the ocean over and over and over?

 

[August_West]

Tyrion is getting his ass handed to him.

Cersei outwitted him on the water and Jaime ate his lunch at casterly rock.


I thought tyrion was supposed to be the smart Lannister

 

[Scalito]

Tyrion is getting his ass handed to him.

Cersei outwitted him on the water and Jaime ate his lunch at casterly rock.


I thought tyrion was supposed to be the smart Lannister

Meh. The ending is a foregone conclusion. The Lannisters are not going to be able to withstand the combined might of the other Houses, plus Unsullied and Dothraki and Dragons. The show is just reaching to try and make it look interesting and maybe to give tools like the Tully's a chance to participate.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Tyrion is getting his ass handed to him.

Cersei outwitted him on the water and Jaime ate his lunch at casterly rock.


I thought tyrion was supposed to be the smart Lannister

Tyrion is the Phil Jackson of Westeros.

 

[Scalito]

That episode was practically a montage of getting rid of unnecessary characters. We also got a montage and some exposition that Sansa is not stupid anymore, which was forced. Like Royce wouldn't know that the armor should have some protection from the cold. Why are the Knights of the Vale sticking around?

I think Littlefinger will do something to help out Sansa or the northmen more generally before he is killed.

I did like the exchange between Olenna and Jamie, but it bugs me that Olenna wouldn't have seen Tarly coming a mile away and made him a better deal. Maybe she just didn't care anymore.

At least we will get to see the Dothraki ride into battle, since the rest of Dany's allies are finished.

I actually liked the Dragonstone arc. It would have been kind of silly if Snow bent the knee or Dany signed up to fight White Walkers off the first meeting.

I would like to know why the Knights of the Vale are sticking around too, but to answer that you need to know what Littlefinger is plotting. His behavior is odd. The last time civil war broke out, he was beaming from camp to camp, meeting with all the players and brokering deals to his advantage. Now he is just . . . giving advice to Sansa.

No siree. Makes no sense.

 

[CTMike]

I would like to know why the Knights of the Vale are sticking around too, but to answer that you need to know what Littlefinger is plotting. His behavior is odd. The last time civil war broke out, he was beaming from camp to camp, meeting with all the players and brokering deals to his advantage. Now he is just . . . giving advice to Sansa.

No siree. Makes no sense.

She's been giving him the cold shoulder but she should start realizing the power she has over him... lead him on then bite his head off, so to speak. He'd fall for it too. The power of the poose.

 

[John]

Tyrion is getting his ass handed to him.

Cersei outwitted him on the water and Jaime ate his lunch at casterly rock.


I thought tyrion was supposed to be the smart Lannister

Starting to wonder if Dany will start holding Tyrion responsible for any of these disasters

 

[mauconnfan]

I like Euron.

Although it sounds funny, I agree

 

[Scalito]

She's been giving him the cold shoulder but she should start realizing the power she has over him... lead him on then bite his head off, so to speak. He'd fall for it too. The power of the poose.

She should just marry him and rule the Seven Kingdoms by his side. The thought of them hurting one another is too dreadful for my tender heart. I love them both so much.

 

[businesslawyer]

My hatred for Sansa is all consuming.

Plus I didn't remind her. Bran did.

Also back on point. Bran is asking for Jon because he wants to tell him he's a Targaryen, right?

I liked the dragon stone scenes this week and agree with Nelson about not having Jon bend the knee. But there was something painful about those scenes I don't think I'm a big fan of the way Danny is written and played right now

Fully disagree on Danny. She played a very complex character last night. She ordered a lord to bend the knee, he didn't, she could have just offed him, and instead she sort of ignored the impasse and moved on.

 

[businesslawyer]

Meh. The ending is a foregone conclusion. The Lannisters are not going to be able to withstand the combined might of the other Houses, plus Unsullied and Dothraki and Dragons. The show is just reaching to try and make it look interesting and maybe to give tools like the Tully's a chance to participate.

You would think that the ending was given away when Melisandre noted that Danny and Snow being together was the meeting of fire and ice, harking back to the name of the series. On the other hand, if the author and producers want to prank us, the head of the White Walkers could marry Cersei and they could kill everyone and rule together.

By the way -- Jamie seems to have gotten over his distaste for his sister's mass murder. Forgive and forget I always say.

 

[Scalito]

You would think that the ending was given away when Melisandre noted that Danny and Snow being together was the meeting of fire and ice, harking back to the name of the series. On the other hand, if the author and producers want to prank us, the head of the White Walkers could marry Cersei and they could kill everyone and rule together.

By the way -- Jamie seems to have gotten over his distaste for his sister's mass murder. Forgive and forget I always say.

All Cersei had to do was bend her knees!

 

[Excalibur]

By the way -- Jamie seems to have gotten over his distaste for his sister's mass murder. Forgive and forget I always say.

Much like the rest of the plot at this point, it's setting up for the eventual fall. Jamie will turn on her eventually, particularly now that he knows that she is responsible in some way for the deaths of all of his children as well as his father.

 

[ZooCougar]

Fully disagree on Danny. She played a very complex character last night. She ordered a lord to bend the knee, he didn't, she could have just offed him, and instead she sort of ignored the impasse and moved on.

She's getting really tiresome. Her whole bend your knee for me act doesn't jive with her whole servant leader/revolutionary liberator mo.

 

[August_West]

Much like the rest of the plot at this point, it's setting up for the eventual fall. Jamie will turn on her eventually, particularly now that he knows that she is responsible in some way for the deaths of all of his children as well as his father.

Just like Sansa

 

[ZooCougar]

You would think that the ending was given away when Melisandre noted that Danny and Snow being together was the meeting of fire and ice, harking back to the name of the series. On the other hand, if the author and producers want to prank us, the head of the White Walkers could marry Cersei and they could kill everyone and rule together.

By the way -- Jamie seems to have gotten over his distaste for his sister's mass murder. Forgive and forget I always say.

On your last point, blood runs deep.

 

[August_West]

She's getting really tiresome. Her whole bend your knee for me act doesn't jive with her whole servant leader/revolutionary liberator mo.

Exactly. And there was no journey to it. Simply jumped from one to the other

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I couldn't tell if Jamie was angry with Euron for discussing sex with his sister or because he hadn't thought of using his finger like that. I am guessing the latter.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

For those scoring at home, the Targaryan/Stark side has Dothraki, a half man/half magic tree mystic that can see everything at once, the best assassin in the 7 kingdoms, and THREE SCALITOING DRAGONS, and they are still losing. They are the WORST.

I am off the fence. I want Cersei to win.

 

[Scalito]

For those scoring at home, the Targaryan/Stark side has Dothraki, a half man/half magic tree mystic that can see everything at once, the best assassin in the 7 kingdoms, and THREE SCALITOING DRAGONS, and they are still losing. They are the WORST.

I am off the fence. I want Cersei to win.

Lol

 

[businesslawyer]

On your last point, blood runs deep.

Blood runs deep? Or more likely men don't care if they're getting some?

 

[HuskyHawk]

I agree that the whole "bend the knee" speech from Danny seemed out of character. Suddenly she's acting like her brother, full of entitlement.
She did back off a bit, but she's not the queen of anything at the moment and needs to earn loyalty rather than demanding it.

Jon is such a blunt instrument. His caveman-like performance didn't help. Fortunately Davos did a little better, but come on Jon, do a little selling. Shake the hips...bring out your inner Elvis. If he had 1/4 of Euron's flair he'd be golden.

What's with Sam Tarley? I believe that the ArchMaester didn't randomly assign him some crappy scrolls and books to translate, but instead selected everything he has on the white walkers and other information Sam will need. There's a reason he's on screen so much.

Cersei's torture was indeed worse than any I could think of, proving Olenna right. At least she got in her jab, which also let Jamie realize that his brother was innocent (as was Sansa). That wrinkle may yet play a role. Glad Jamie let her die with dignity.

Sansa gained 40 IQ points almost overnight. The interactions with Bran, who could explain a bit better, and Littlefinger, were both odd. Littlefinger's comment about preparing for every possible outcome was interesting in theory, but impossible in practice. The general point was valid though. Bran needs to start providing some useful intel, or he's no damned use at all.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

Fully disagree on Danny. She played a very complex character last night. She ordered a lord to bend the knee, he didn't, she could have just offed him, and instead she sort of ignored the impasse and moved on.

I agree. I think we are still witnessing Danni learning how to rule and the type of ruler she will be. 2 seasons ago, she would have been too naive, but she has learned that power must often be a cold hard fist in the real world. Now she must learn the balance of power vs. Diplomacy. While she is the breaker of chains, she also has the ego of a monarch. I think her character is the most interesting in many ways.

Olena was one of my favorite characters. Hated seeing her go.

Little Finger thinks he can marry Sansa and keep bother the North and the Vale. In a kingdom dealing with the end of a bloody war, he would be one of the most powerful people in the world regardless of who sits on the Iron Throne. He is always playing the long game.

 

[coachcap]

There has to be a Lannister spy in Danni's midst. She & Tyrion laid out their battle strategy in the map room. All of their moves to date have been counterpointed. Is Varys using the raven express to his advantage? (Hence Melisandre's forewarning that he's fated to die at Dragonstone) I Tyrion being a true Lannister? Is Missandei scheming behind Danni's back? Something is amiss.