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Goodman: Hurley to UConn (not official)

I really hope this is true and we can move the program forward. I guess we will have to wait a little bit longer until Rhode Island is eliminated from the tourney to find out.
 
We are not going to hear anything official until KO’s appeal is over or the school reaches a settlement with him. UConn cannot actually fire KO for cause without going through the process first. If they bring in a new coach before that’s over, they’ve arguably breached the contract and would likely owe KO the full $10M.
 
VAHuskyFan said:
We are not going to hear anything official until KO’s appeal is over or the school reaches a settlement with him. UConn cannot actually fire KO for cause without going through the process first. If they bring in a new coach before that’s over, they’ve arguably breached the contract and would likely owe KO the full $10M.
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I’m sure they are hoping to get the KO settlement done soon. Probably a little leverage for KO if we are trying to hire Hurley soon.
 
VAHuskyFan said:
We are not going to hear anything official until KO’s appeal is over or the school reaches a settlement with him. UConn cannot actually fire KO for cause without going through the process first. If they bring in a new coach before that’s over, they’ve arguably breached the contract and would likely owe KO the full $10M.
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This is categorically not true. There is nothing that says that they can't hire another coach after letting KO go, whether the buyout has been resolved or not. Only thing on the table now is whether the dismissal was for cause or not.
 
Walker11 said:
The title is egregious. Needs to be changed or deleted.

People in media are supposed to have opinions on everything nowadays. Goodman was asked his opinion on our future head coach. Nothing more, nothing less
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Even still, it's pretty likely Goodman knows about some stuff that us fans don't. At worst it's likely a fairly educated guess.
 
djct1999 said:
Sadly, I don't think we can do better.
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No idea who 'the guy' should be, but who out there is better? Leaving aside fully entrenched stud coaches...
 
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BUConn10 said:
Do people in the twitter age regularly push stories that are heavily unverified or purely speculation to push some sort of agenda, yes. Do people who claim to be "professionals" making a living intentionally "troll" complete strangers for no other reason than some sort of personal pleasure? No, that's ridiculous.

If he says it publicly, especially on an ESPN branded broadcast, he is doing it as an employee so his credibility is attached to the statement. Therefore if he's wrong, he's wrong because the source was bogus, NOT because Goodman wants to "troll" you nobodies that's paranoid nonsense. Let's see how this plays out.
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The third option would be a 'professional' doing it for the clicks. Similar to an agenda, but not quite the same.

If you've got a fanbase you know will get up in arms, just put out a few negative comments, and watch the clicks flow. Happens on radio/tv more though.
 
Travelman32 said:
I really wish they would stop speculating until after the season, poor RI kids. I know, impossible to wish for, but still.
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You're not wrong, but wtf else do UCONN fans have to do right now?
 
auror said:
Is this a forum post with an embedded tweet itself embedding a picture of a different forum post quoting an XM radio segment?
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boog204 said:
Goodman is a , but is there a guy the BY does not think hates/trolls UConn? By my count over the years we have had Goodman, Doyel, Bilas, Gottlieb, Barkley... Of course, many times we've flipped when they've said something that wasn't critical about us and we then valued their "honesty."
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The biggest troll of all time was the Pitt newspaper guy who called the 1999 team thugs and non-students compared to Duke.
 
Hoophound said:
Everyone now knows JC visited URI a few times and even talked to their team. He even plays golf in southern RI in the cold, weather permitting. Between those things and Tom Moore being at URI , we know JC has spoken to Hurley on at least a few occasions.
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Could be off the mark, but doesn't JC now live in Westerly or somewhere near Kingston? If so, the avid golfer likely finds his way on a few southern RI links.
 
uconngb said:
This is categorically not true. There is nothing that says that they can't hire another coach after letting KO go, whether the buyout has been resolved or not. Only thing on the table now is whether the dismissal was for cause or not.
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Fair enough - that woud be good news. I know that KO’s contract incorporates the CBA as to for-cause terminations. Under the CBA, an employee can appeal the “decision” with respect to a for-cause dismissal “action.”

I read that to mean that the employee has the right to appeal the dismissal action itself. But I may be wrong about that - I’m not an employment lawyer. Do you know how the CBA has been interpreted on this point in the past?
 
Austin316 said:
All signs lead to Hurley. Pitt fans forum is throwing in the towel on this and expects Hurley to be the next UConn coach.
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But of course, the URI fans are saying that UConn is not a good job and Hurley will remain ....
 
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VAHuskyFan said:
Fair enough - that woud be good news. I know that KO’s contract incorporates the CBA as to for-cause terminations. Under the CBA, an employee can appeal the “decision” with respect to a for-cause dismissal “action.”

I read that to mean that the employee has the right to appeal the dismissal action itself. But I may be wrong about that - I’m not an employment lawyer. Do you know how the CBA has been interpreted on this point in the past?
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He can be fired for any reason. He has been fired. Now the argument is whether it will be for cause or not. But he is not longer the coach at UConn and the school is free to hire another Coach. The school's issue potentially is that it doesn't know its economic state as it pertains to Ollie. But there is nothing that says that the school can't fire Ollie and hire another Coach while the "for cause or not" issue is being resolved.
 
intlzncster said:
Pitt fans are beleaguered, just like us. They are expecting the worst.
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No doubt. I used to love hating Pitt. With their 8 year players, their 29 year olds, their failure to win when it mattered, their australian guy and the Predator dude.

But since the Kemba step and their subsequent decline, I kinda sorta feel sorry for them.
 
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BUConn10 said:
Literally a highly "liked" post on the Pitt thread breaking the same news saying "Jeff Goodman loves to trash Pitt and it's fan so I'd take this with a grain of salt."

Oh the joys of internet fandom.
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It’s a known fact that every game day broadcast team hates every school they cover. Just ask the fans. Well, excepting Dookies and Dookie V, who covers Duke even when they aren’t playing.
 
intlzncster said:
Pitt fans are beleaguered, just like us. They are expecting the worst.
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You got me laughing. While I’m reading through their forum I wasn’t lost in translation... they sound just like us. Sad sad people lol! It’s ok we’re UConn we’ll bounce back!
 
Marat said:
But of course, the URI fans are saying that UConn is not a good job and Hurley will remain ....
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No I poked around their forum too. They’re already talking about who will take over once he’s gone.
 
VAHuskyFan said:
Fair enough - that woud be good news. I know that KO’s contract incorporates the CBA as to for-cause terminations. Under the CBA, an employee can appeal the “decision” with respect to a for-cause dismissal “action.”

I read that to mean that the employee has the right to appeal the dismissal action itself. But I may be wrong about that - I’m not an employment lawyer. Do you know how the CBA has been interpreted on this point in the past?
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While unlikely to happen, the CBA does provide for a member to contest a termination & seek reinstatement to "their" position; again it is extremely rare that this happens. Note that the AAUP, his bargaining unit, contends he has not been terminated, rather placed on administrative leave without pay pending the outcome of the grievance process. It is all about posturing right now. I'm hoping that both sides are willing & able to reach a separation agreement pretty quickly so all involved can move on.
 
Jaybird65 said:
While unlikely to happen, the CBA does provide for a member to contest a termination & seek reinstatement to "their" position; again it is extremely rare that this happens. Note that the AAUP, his bargaining unit, contends he has not been terminated, rather placed on administrative leave without pay pending the outcome of the grievance process. It is all about posturing right now. I'm hoping that both sides are willing & able to reach a separation agreement pretty quickly so all involved can move on.
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Without having any documents in front of me, in a non-unionized situation you can fire someone for cause and they are fired whether or not a court subsequently determines you had cause. But often collective bargaining agreements and procedures bar the termination until cause is resolved. So it may be that terminating him before a hearing enjoins the university from arguing cause down the road.
 
HawkHusky said:
I believe they used the words "lateral move."
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Lol I know they don't actually believe that. We literally spend twice as much money on Men's basketball, had 80% more attendance last year despite having a terrible season.
 
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