February - Other Big East Games

[uconnfan68]

This kind of complaining his pointless. The refs are what they are and we have to accept that. With all of their imperfections, they’re simply part of the game. Where you go off the rails is when you claim “. . . if WE were playing, it would have been called much differently, at least to us.”

Have you ever come on and posted that the refs favored us and were unfair to the other team?

Anyway, who goes to a basketball game for the purpose of critiquing the refs? I sure don’t.

I only complain if there is a huge disparity in calls. Fair is fair. Just call the same way for each team, then they can adjust. So far, we've on the wrong end of some very lopsidedly called games. I don't excuse the sometimes boneheaded fouls we commit either.

 

[Rico444]

I didnt mind the no timeout under 10. Some coaches think that aids the Defense too, it wasn't a bad play by Nembhard he is quick, obviously looking for a foul attacking the rim, he got there, just better defense by carter.

That's fair, although I hope Nembhard didn't actually think he would get a foul call on the road with under 10 seconds left in a tie game.

 

[Rakkasan]

That trap was brilliant. So unexpected in that situation.

The trap was 100% a surprise to Creighton and vaporized whatever play they were going to run.

However, if you-know-who Corey Floyd doesn't make an equally heads up play and deflect the oop to the basket CU still wins that game in regulation. This is 2 big time games Floyd is trusted by Ed Cooley at the end of the game to be on the floor. Not saying he is better or worse than anyone for Uconn or Prov or any other Big East team but Ed Cooley trusts him in big time situations.

And Carter is just an absolute animal on both ends. Sophomore.

 

[Billy Jack]

I only complain if there is a huge disparity in calls. Fair is fair. Just call the same way for each team, then they can adjust. So far, we've on the wrong end of some very lopsidedly called games. I don't excuse the sometimes boneheaded fouls we commit either.

Why complain when there is a disparity in calls? Are you saying that there aren’t games in which one team fouls more than the other?

And frankly I never see posters here complaining when the disparity favors us.

 

[mauconnfan]

The trap was 100% a surprise to Creighton and vaporized whatever play they were going to run.

However, if you-know-who Corey Floyd doesn't make an equally heads up play and deflect the oop to the basket CU still wins that game in regulation. This is 2 big time games Floyd is trusted by Ed Cooley at the end of the game to be on the floor. Not saying he is better or worse than anyone for Uconn or Prov or any other Big East team but Ed Cooley trusts him in big time situations.

And Carter is just an absolute animal on both ends. Sophomore.

I think a guy we recruited and they got is the one that hurts us the most. Locke as it turned out would’ve been a very good addition kid can shoot it and score.

 

[KingAG]

We think too much about providence on this board. No I wouldn’t want to be where pc is as a program over where we are as a program. And I wouldn’t want Cooley as a coach instead of Hurley. Call me crazy. But Hurley’s ceiling is much higher. The End. Let PC do PC. Let’s figure our ish out

 

[gsmooth]

I didnt mind the no timeout under 10. Some coaches think that aids the Defense too, it wasn't a bad play by Nembhard he is quick, obviously looking for a foul attacking the rim, he got there, just better defense by carter.

Devin Carter deserves a lot of credit as he fought over the Kalkbrenner pick on that last OT play

 

[August_West]

We think too much about providence on this board. No I wouldn’t want to be where pc is as a program over where we are as a program. And I wouldn’t want Cooley as a coach instead of Hurley. Call me crazy. But Hurley’s ceiling is much higher. The End. Let PC do PC. Let’s figure our ish out

It’s better than thinking about Tulsa, no?


I guess I want to hope hurleys ceiling is higher? How do you know that? You don’t. What’s your metrics. What metrics does Hurley have that shows a higher ceiling than Cooley? I’ll hang up and listen

 

[superjohn]

We think too much about providence on this board. No I wouldn’t want to be where pc is as a program over where we are as a program. And I wouldn’t want Cooley as a coach instead of Hurley. Call me crazy. But Hurley’s ceiling is much higher. The End. Let PC do PC. Let’s figure our ish out

Cooley is working with way less. We're in the same conference but we're not supposed to be sweating Providence.

UConn's ceiling/floor/everything else is way higher than Providence's but here we are with Providence having a better regular season than UConn again and Cooley owning Hurley head to head.

We need to take care of business next week against them and start dominating them.

 

[August_West]

UConn has the highest ceiling in the Big East. PC has the highest floor. Marquette, Xavier and Creighton are somewhere in the middle. I'd argue Marquette with the next highest floor, and Xavier with the next highest ceiling (with Freemantle).

I think we see how this manifests. UConn can blow out the #1 team in the country, PC can't do that. UConn loses home games to St. Johns, PC isn't going to do that.

That is well put

 

[KingAG]

It’s better than thinking about Tulsa, no?


I guess I want to hope hurleys ceiling is higher? How do you know that? You don’t. What’s your metrics. What metrics does Hurley have that shows a higher ceiling than Cooley? I’ll hang up and listen

I mean there’s what 8 other BE teams to talk about and compare ourselves to.

I’m looking at ceiling in terms of recruiting combined with what Hurley is already good at. The areas he’s deficient in I believe can be corrected.

 

[EnochRoot]

I'm trying to wrap my head around which is closer to the truth: that Alabama is playing like the mid-February #1 ranked team they currently are, or the SEC just sucks out loud this year, and the coaches have yet to reconcile that fact?

Or somewhere in between.

 

[KingAG]

Cooley is working with way less. We're in the same conference but we're not supposed to be sweating Providence.

UConn's ceiling/floor/everything else is way higher than Providence's but here we are with Providence having a better regular season than UConn again and Cooley owning Hurley head to head.

We need to take care of business next week against them and start dominating them.

I agree with everything said here.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

It’s better than thinking about Tulsa, no?


I guess I want to hope hurleys ceiling is higher? How do you know that? You don’t. What’s your metrics. What metrics does Hurley have that shows a higher ceiling than Cooley? I’ll hang up and listen

If it takes Hurley a decade here to finish first in the conference the end of the regular season and make a sweet sixteen I will gladly state that his ceiling is not any higher than Cooley's.

 

[gtcam]

We play for National titles, PC plays for Big East regular season titles. Let them have their fun, they don’t have the talent to make it to the Elite 8. UConn most certainly does. Let’s see how the rest of the season plays out before we start freaking out over a mediocre Providence team.

PC took care of business and UConn hasn’t Plan simple elementary
Talent only takes you so far. Besides PC has a pg huge advantage
Coaching makes a difference

 

[REB1094]

Marquette/Xavier is fun to watch after a brickfest of a first half

Stevie Mitchell is looking really good. Everywhere on defense and is doing pretty well offensively too

As I type this, Nunge airballs a free throw

 

[August_West]

If it takes Hurley a decade here to finish first in the conference the end of the regular season and make a sweet sixteen I will gladly state that his ceiling is not any higher than Cooley's.

Whelp 5 years are almost done.with Hurley, Cooley won Big East tourney title in year 3. Next?

 

[KingAG]

Whelp 5 years are almost done.with Hurley, Cooley won Big East tourney title in year 3. Next?

I mean Ewing has a BE tourney title. I don’t think that marks a “good” coach. Disclaimer: I’m not saying Cooley isn’t a good coach

 

[August_West]

I mean there’s what 8 other BE teams to talk about and compare ourselves to.

I’m looking at ceiling in terms of recruiting combined with what Hurley is already good at. The areas he’s deficient in I believe can be corrected.

Kevin Ollie had best recruits in AAC and a top 10 class in country in 16. Next? What does that mean if you can’t coach em to league wins?

 

[August_West]

I mean Ewing has a BE tourney title. I don’t think that marks a “good” coach. Disclaimer: I’m not saying Cooley isn’t a good coach

Patrick have a big East regular season tittle too? Over performing with lesser talent is a thing. Cooley does it. Does Hurley?

 

[KingAG]

Patrick have a big East regular season tittle too? Over performing with lesser talent is a thing. Cooley does it. Does Hurley?

Sometimes. At URI he absolutely over performed. He had tournament wins at URI. That’s a pretty big over achievement with the talent he had

 

[August_West]

Sometimes. At URI he absolutely over performed. He had tournament wins at URI. That’s a pretty big over achievement with the talent he had

So then he failed at UConn with more talent? Is that your contention?

 

[CTBasketball]

Imagine if PC played their games on campus…man talk about tough place to play!

 

[UConnSwag11]

I mean there’s what 8 other BE teams to talk about and compare ourselves to.

I’m looking at ceiling in terms of recruiting combined with what Hurley is already good at. The areas he’s deficient in I believe can be corrected.

The big one is because out of all the Big East teams their fans are by far the most insufferable. They’re Cuse without a winning history. It’s annoying when see a team who’s less talented than us winning.

 

[KingAG]

So then he failed at UConn with more talent? Is that your contention?

No. I don’t see what he’s done so far at UConn as a “fail”. Considering where we were when he got here. He’s exponentially more good than bad. Were in a good spot

 

[KingAG]

The big one is because out of all the Big East teams their fans are by far the most insufferable. They’re Cuse without a winning history. It’s annoying when see a team who’s less talented than us winning.

But just to keep things in perspective, we have almost identical records. They’ve just played their best ball in conference while we’ve played our best out of conference. We also have better wins and are ranked higher. And have been for the majority of the season. Let’s see how the season plays out before we anoint them has having had a better season.

 

[August_West]

Imagine if PC played their games on campus…man talk about tough place to play!

The dunk isn’t 30 miles from campus

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Whelp 5 years are almost done.with Hurley, Cooley won Big East tourney title in year 3. Next?

Yeah but Hurley was also able to win NCAA tournament games at his prior, step below stop. How many did Cooley win at Fairfield?

I believe that Hurley warrants criticism but I do get irritated when the terms of any debate starts shifting. Additionally, Cooley isn't exactly Dean Smith or Bobby Knight, and I believe that if he were here and took a decade to make it to the sweet sixteen he'd have been lambasted worse than what we're currently doing to Hurley starting around the same time frame we started turning on Hurley.

 

[August_West]

No. I don’t see what he’s done so far at UConn as a “fail”. Considering where we were when he got here. He’s exponentially more good than bad. Were in a good spot

You don’t? 6th place in big East on year 5 is a good spot?

 

[KingAG]

You don’t? 6th place in big East on year 5 is a good spot?

It’s a disappointing conference season(every coach has those including Calhoun the Christ). 14-0 also happened. A disappointing conference season doesn’t make his time at UConn a fail.