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What makes you think they are all praying to Jesus?


They're praying to someone and it is not Darwin, that's for sure. Yeah they may be praying to God as they see it, but again it is the culture down south which you nor many others understand on this board


The bottom line is that a coach left UCONN one way or the other and it doesn't look good to recruits, and that is a fact
 
Your interpretation of the separation of church and state is wrong if you read the Founding Father's teachings and writings.

In practice your interpretation is wrong. Are you someone who believes the constitution has been hijacked?
 
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I'm so glad this didn't go down the way you predicted it to... :confused:


I agree I helped bring this down, but just frustrated to lose a coach who wanted the best or the players in and out of football. That's what bothers me the most
 
This is too bad. With his ties to the south (Alcorn State) and his strong religious beliefs, he could have opened some recruiting areas that UConn hasn't taken advantage of in the past. Good, bad, or indifferent, there are many families down south who really like a strong religious environment for their kids. Several SEC schools look like revival meetings during recruiting season.
 
The bottom line is that a coach left UCONN one way or the other and it doesn't look good to recruits, and that is a fact

Recruiting is the bottom line? You're going through all this trouble because you are worried about recruiting? Good God.

When football recruiting becomes the bottom line its time to shut down the school.
 
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I agree I helped bring this down, but just frustrated to lose a coach who wanted the best or the players in and out of football. That's what bothers me the most

I hear ya, but it's out of our control at this point. To argue about Allah, Herbst's response, possible reasons behind Jones' reasons, the personality of people in New England, the personality of people in the "Deep South", Evangelists vs. other Protestants, football prayer vs. basketball prayer, and whether or not Kevin Ollie is not bothered because Calhoun picked him....it's all not worth it. It's really not.

In Diaco We Trust....and I trust that he will find a replacement RB coach that will be excellent and that will hold a high standard of morality for all of the young men to follow...
 
Recruiting is the bottom line? You're going through all this trouble because you are worried about recruiting? Good God.

No that a man lost his job is my biggest problem. I was very interested in how he was going to bring players out into the community to help make them not only better players but better men. That is what all universities should be doing or try to do.
 
I hear ya, but it's out of our control at this point. To argue about Allah, Herbst's response, possible reasons behind Jones' reasons, the personality of people in New England, the personality of people in the "Deep South", Evangelists vs. other Protestants, football prayer vs. basketball prayer, and whether or not Kevin Ollie is not bothered because Calhoun picked him....it's all not worth it. It's really not.

In Diaco We Trust....and I trust that he will find a replacement RB coach that will be excellent and that will hold a high standard of morality for all of the young men to follow...


In Diaco we trust. I agree 100%
 
His comments should not have led to this. He was by all accounts a good man who misspoke. Unbelievable. (I know it says it was for personal/family reasons, but...)

why do you think he misspoke? Some people believe that Christ should be the center of life. I am guessing that if he said being gay or bisexual or Islamic should be the center of the huddle, nothing would have been said.
 
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This has Herbst's finger prints all over it. For all of her strengths in making tough decisions, she is also a bit of a megalomaniac. My guess is she waited for the storm that she helped to create to die down before 'accepting' his resignation
 
why do you think he misspoke? Some people believe that Christ should be the center of life. I am guessing that if he said being gay or bis e xual or Islamic should be the center of the huddle, nothing would have been said.

Do you really believe that if he said "being Islamic should be the center of the huddle, nothing would have been said"? If so, you have to ease up on the kool-aid.
 
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Your interpretation of the separation of church and state is wrong if you read the Founding Father's teachings and writings.

Wrong again, bill. James Madison, Father of the Constitution, was a devout man. But his insistence of a strict seperation of church and state was such that he wanted the post offices open on Sunday. The fathers knew that injecting faith over reason in Government is a recipe for disaster.
 
Yeah they were, because for him spirituality is based on his faith in so what. If he replaced Jesus with spirituality he probably wouldn't have received so much grief for it, but I'm just speculating.

2,000 years ago government officials didn't like what Jesus was saying so they crucified him. Not much has changed.
 
This is too bad because I like Coach Jones from what I've seen/read. Best of luck to him - I'm sure he will land at a Catholic school within the next few weeks. I'm interested to see if Diaco reshuffles the current coaching staff or will find a replacement.
If Jones said what he did at an SEC school there would have been no flack. There are plenty of non Catholic schools were he could go. He could also coach at a school like Liberty University where Turner Gill is the head coach.
 
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Wrong again, bill. James Madison, Father of the Constitution, was a devout man. But his insistence of a strict seperation of church and state was such that he wanted the post offices open on Sunday. The fathers knew that injecting faith over reason in Government is a recipe for disaster.
His insistence was so strict he didn't actually put that phrase in the constitution, nobody did. Interesting.

You are misrepresenting his opinion.

He knew that government and religion had the tendency to corrupt each other, and he believed that the government shouldn't be involved in religion as strongly as he believed no specific religious sect should dominate the government. The idea that they opposed injecting faith over reason is a false premise. In fact, their faith is what guided them to declare our independence was based on rights endowed to us by a Creator rather than granted to us by a King.
 
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Why do you think there would be less flack if he referenced general spirituality over a specific religion?
Spirituality could also include Satan Worship. Spirituality is a very generic politically correct term that is basically meaningless. It's like saying I love sports vs. I love football. Sports include badminton. Oh darn, I waited to buy my season tickets for the badminton team and now they're sold out and I have to watch the games on TV!
 
Is it? He was basically told that you can't discuss Jesus or being Christian in the media or in the locker room. You can see him dancing around the topic everytime he's interviewed...trying to qualify his statements and keep from making the same mistake. Jesus is always on the tip of the tongue for men like Ernest.

I know men like Ernest, Christian devotion is different in the South and Midwest. Asking a man like him to keep his faith bottled up is the ultimate slap in the face and everytime he hides his true thoughts he feels that he is disrespecting God. Want to know what his personal and family issues were? His convictions to his God. Christians in the South do not keep their religion to themselves. For men like Ernest God is a part of EVERYTHING. For him, everything he has is thanks to his God so for someone to tell him that he can't openly speak about God at work is inconceivable to him.

Culturally CT was not a fit for him. This never would have happened in the South. He needs to be in South or Midwest or at a religious private institution.

Hmm...Kevin Ollie seems to be managing this just fine.
 
New England is not tolerant when it comes to religion or those who profess Jesus. I see it an awful lot in the northeast and do not see it when I travel down south. Just two different worlds.

The intolerance in the South of not only those who are not religious, but those of a "different" sect of Christianity, is exponentially greater than the perceived intolerance of people of faith in the Northeast.
 
There is a difference though. One is a UCONN alumni and Jim Calhoun's personal choose to succeed him. The other has zero connections with UCONN and had a few UCONN alumni complained to the university and the local newspapers.

No. The difference is that Ollie's discussions of his faith are entirely personal in nature.
 
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Time to get back to football guys... UCONN Football....

Right, let's stop beating around the bush. The reason why this issue stings so bad is that it reflects poorly on coach, it's his first big misstep. He shouldn't have brought this guy into the program and his doing so puts his judgement into question. Jones was fired by his alma mater, a school right smack dab in the middle of the Bible Belt for crying out loud. The moral being that maybe you want Jesus in the huddle, but you better keep your hands out of the till. Fired for malfeasance and contumacious conduct. I had never heard the word contumacious before. As a matter of fact, when you enter "malfeasance and contumacious conduct" into Google the first thing you get is a definition of contumacious. The 2nd entry is a legal brief titled "Jones v. Alcorn State University" which should be mandatory reading for this board.

BTW, contumacious means " openly insubordinate and willfully obstinate--exhibiting stubborn rebelliousness". I wonder if after his Diaco had his talk with Jones, Jones responded with some contumacious conduct which necessitated his resignation. No way he got canned for just the original comments alone.
 
The intolerance in the South of not only those who are not religious, but those of a "different" sect of Christianity, is exponentially greater than the perceived intolerance of people of faith in the Northeast.

You know that famous Emo Phillips joke?

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said "Stop! don't do it!"
"Why shouldn't I?" he said.
I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"
He said, "Like what?"
I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?"
He said, "Religious."
I said, "Me too! Are you christian or buddhist?"
He said, "Christian."
I said, "Me too! Are you catholic or protestant?"
He said, "Protestant."
I said, "Me too! Are you episcopalian or baptist?"
He said, "Baptist!"
I said,"Wow! Me too! Are you baptist church of god or baptist church of the lord?"
He said, "Baptist church of god!" I said, "Me too!
Are you original baptist church of god, or are you reformed baptist church of god?"
He said,"Reformed Baptist church of god!"
I said, "Me too! Are you reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1879, or reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915?"
He said, "Reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915!"
I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off. -- Emo Phillips
 
This story is front page on FoxNews.

Regardless of constitution/faith (blah, blah and say what you will about FoxNews), bad press is bad press. Not laying blame, but there is no silver lining so far.
 
This story is front page on FoxNews.

Regardless of constitution/faith (blah, blah and say what you will about FoxNews), bad press is bad press. Not laying blame, but there is no silver lining so far.

and this is one of the reasons you keep religion out of the work place, it's impossible to discuss religion without politics creeping into it. Fake News and their minions can go _________ themselves. Look how this subject has brought us all together, in Jesus' name, Amen.

and the right wingers who are mad at Herbst should root for a different school, she did nothing wrong.
 
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and this is one of the reasons you keep religion out of the work place, it's impossible to discuss religion without politics creeping into it. Fake News and their minions can go _________ themselves. Look how this subject has brought us all together, in Jesus' name, Amen.

and the right wingers who are mad at Herbst should root for a different school, she did the right thing.

This is quintessential "Northeastern Tolerance".
 
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